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Author:	Theris [ Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:16 am ]
Post subject:	How I Game; From Me to You
Let me start off by giving you a bit of background about me. I wasn't great nor horrible with women before I starting gaming. I stumbled on gaming through Zyzz (body builder from AUS), I don't remember exactly but I got here. I did some reading and watched some videos and tried to incorporate what I learned into my interactions with women. As I was still learning I got a call from a PUA member. Him and I have been learning from each other and give each other field reports. All-in-all I've been gaming for two weeks. I'm a college student at the University of Minnesota, so there are plenty of women to open and practice on. You all are probably thinking, 'This kid has only been gaming for two weeks. What could I possibly learn from him.' Well, I've learned pretty quickly but I'm certainly not an expert. I just want to provide the community with some things I've been doing. Opening: When I am out sarging I rely on my confidence (I have the gift of being naturally confidant) to get me to approach women. Those of you who aren't naturally confidant, use peer pressure to your advantage. If you are out with your friends, tell them you're going to try to get as many numbers or talk to as many girls as possible. I know when I am out sarging, peer pressure is my friend. I can talk to anyone or do anything with a little pressure. But, ultimately it's up to you to figure out that thing that makes you unstoppable and harness it. Use it to your advantage. My style is very natural. I don't rely on any sort of scripted interactions. When I open a girl, I usually comment on something they're wearing, something that's going on in the room, or I'll ease drop on their conversation and add to it. Be aware of your surroundings. Here's an example. At my dorm's lunch room there were two girls standing behind me talking about fuck all. But I overheard one of them say "I'm hungry" in Spanish. Instantly I turned around and replied "me too" in Spanish. I answered as if they were talking to me. Then, I just related it to them. I asked them if they actually knew Spanish or just a few phrases. You want to listen to what they are saying and comment about it. Let them do all the talking. All you have to do is listen to what they are saying and ask them about them. Girls LOVE to talk about themselves. With opening comes calibration. As soon as you start talking to a girl you should be able to read if they are interested in talking to you or not. If they're not putting much effort into talking to you, chances are they aren't interested. REJECTION WILL HAPPEN. But you all knew that. PRO TIP: if you are approaching a group and they are talking DO NOT OPEN THEM. They are busy doing their own thing and it is rude to interrupt their conversation. Wait till someone gets up to leave or the conversation has died down and no one is really talking. THEN you are clear to open. There is one way I found that works very well for opening mixed sets. Ignore the girl/s. Pretend they're not even there for a few minutes. You can easily open them in a bit. DO open the guy/s that are in the mixed set. AFCs are always looking for bros to talk to and are generally easier to talk to. It's an easy way to get into the group when you start talking to the guy/s first. Also, you can easily ask how they know each other. This'll give you a heads up if a guy and girl are dating. If they aren't you're in the clear. If girls try to but into the conversation THEY ARE INTERESTED IN YOU. If they don't join the conversation and stand there awkwardly throw them a neg or open them. You can always say, "Hey, how come you're being so quiet? You shy?" With that you just opened her, cut the guy off, and built attraction. Then you are set to mid game and close. Mid Game/Re-open: Let's say you're at a party and you're talking to a girl. Who the fuck cares about what. She's just going on and on about her mother's cat that doesn't want to drink lemonaid. REMEMBER WHAT SHE SAYS. No matter what, remember what she says, her associated body language, and her emotions. This will be KEY for a re-open or when you text/call her. During my mid game I try to get women to do the majority of the talking. When I talk, I try to do one of three things: relate to what they are saying, neg them about what they said, or DHV. Here at the U I am an athlete. So when I talk to women I ask them if they've done any sports or enjoy sports etc.. Then I can throw in that I'm an athlete. Then, they become interested in me and start asking questions about me. When women ask about you, you are building attraction. If her questions become personal, I try to give round-about answers. I try to be mysterious and make her WORK for the answers. But even if she is asking about you, try to get them talking about themselves again. This will ensure your mysteriousness. DO FEEL FREE TO CUT THE CONVERSATION SHORT! If you are at a party and she won't shut up. Come up with an excuse to leave. "Hey, my friend has been waiting for me for a few minutes. I gotta check up on him." Try to cut off the conversation on a high note. Then you are free to mingle and open other girls. Bonus points if she see you opening other women. Women get jealous of other women. Jealousy brings them to an higher emotional state which will build attraction. THEN, feel free to bump into her later and re-open her. Some of the most common ways I re-open is simply to reference something she said earlier OR surprise her. One thing I like to do is the old tap-on-the-opposite-shoulder-so-she-looks-the-wrong-way trick. It's great kino, it surprises her, and you come off playful. Getting Numbers: I find this to be the easiest part next to mid-game. BUT, getting a number doesn't mean she will respond or meet up with you. Also, keep in mind REJECTION DOES HAPPEN. But you already knew that. When I ask for a girls number I usually do it indirectly. A few days ago I sat down with a random girl who was eating alone. I let her talk about herself and I asked if she like to party. Then I asked if she had any plans for this weekend. She said she didn't know so in order to number close I said, "Well if I know of any parties I'll text you!" and I handed her my phone. Sure enough she put it in. Sometimes I like to use a direct method. I simply ask for their number. Like, "hey I gotta get going, but let me get your number. I'll text you sometime." If a girl doesn't want to give me her number but asks for mine I generally don't give it to her. She probably won't text or call. Kino: I'm not really sure how to explain kino other than just go for it. Start slow and work your way up. I'll just give a few examples of smooth kino. One think I like to do is the playful shove. If I'm making a joke or she makes a joke I'll give her a little push with a smile instead of saying "that's funny" or something lame. When opening I like to tap a girl on the shoulder. When re-opening I like to tap on the opposite shoulder or putting my arm around them unexpectedly. Hand shake with an introduction. It's just up to you to find a good pace and smoothly escalate. Well that's all I've got right now. I'll be sure to add more about dates and sex when I get there. Like I said, I've only been gaming for two weeks. I like to think I learn pretty quickly. I think that because I have the ability to be flexible and malleable in my game. Every girl is different and I treat them all differently. What I say and how I act are never exactly the same. But, to close I'll throw in a list of things (that I hopefully will keep updated) that I think are important. 1. Women are nothing like men. They are emotional, NOT LOGICAL. Try to get a girl to feel as many emotions in as little time as possible. 2. REFERENCE, REFERENCE, REFERENCE what she says. ALWAYS reference to past things she says. It will remind her of the situation when she was talking to you and it will build attraction. 3. Watch movies. Seriously, movies are great for short, funny, and witty one liners that you can throw out. If she recognizes the movie it's an easy conversation. 4. Eye contact is a powerful tool. Some women will break eye contact instantly or hold it for 60 seconds. It's up to you to read what her eyes are saying and base your interaction accordingly. 5. Be interesting. Be unpredictable. Be uncontrollable. 6. Women want the romantic stuff from the movies, BUT they don't actually want it. So give it to them, BUT don't actually give it to them. Say how you would watch the sun rise with them. Give them that romantic thought. 7. KINO, KINO, KINO. Play footsie, play with her hair, just touch her. Be cool about it. If you touch her hand and she doesn't want to be touched, she'll simply move her hand. No harm, no foul. DO IT. 8. No matter what, when you talk to women, other women notice you. They are always paying attention to you. 9. OPEN, OPEN, OPEN. In the elevator with a girl? Open her. On the bus sitting next to a girl? Open her. See a homeless guy? Open him. Open EVERYONE. It will build your confidence, you will experience rejection in a controlled environment, and you WILL get good at opening. 10. Be a nice guy. You can be cocky-funny and confidant while still being nice. If you have any questions I'd be glad to answer them. If you have any critique I'd be glad to take it into consideration. Thanks for reading!

Author:	Theris [ Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:07 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: How I Game; From Me to You
For some reason it's not letting me edit my post so I'll just add things to the post like this. 11. Give girls a nickname. I met a girl who loves horses (protip: horse girls are crazy) so I call her Cowgirl. I met another girl who loves EDM so I call her Rave Girl. Giving a girl a nickname brings you closer to her and you can associate things she likes with you which will build attraction. 12. Get her imagining you and her going out to other places. If she likes a restaurant tell her you want her to show you it. Figure out what she likes and tell her you want to do that stuff with her. She'll be more open to dates and other 2nd encounters. 13. Don't be afraid to ignore a girl. I personally like to drop a girl off for a week or two then re-open them with a text like "stop thinking about me." Then drop them again for a few days. 14. I can't stop on 13 because that'd be unlucky. So for number 14 give back to the PUA community. If you have the chance to wing or give advice to some noob, do it. For me, this community has changed my life and it wouldn't be right for me to take, take, take and give nothing back. Be a bro and get your wing laid. 15. Let girls know you talk to other girls. Don't be a douche about it, just casually say you talk to other girls. I'm sure you can figure out something that works for each situation. Complimenting: There are two types of compliments. Direct and indirect. Let's first talk about indirect compliments. If you want to compliment a girl, don't do it on physical appearance. Give her an indirect compliment (IC). This is done by complimenting an article of clothing, music taste, etc... You never want to give her an IC and let her walk away. Give her an IC and a neg at the same time. Example: "I really like that bow you're wearing, but it doesn't really match your outfit..." Give it to her then immediately take it away. ALWAYS focus on a girls flaws. That will make it so much easier to IC and neg at the same time. I try NEVER to directly compliment(DC) a girl. Like almost never. This keeps her wondering if you are into her or not. This also keeps you from sounding like a liar. HB9+ always hear they are good looking. Most of them don't have high self esteem because they hear it so much they think guys just want them for their bodies and lie about their looks to get into their pants. THIS IS WHAT THEY THINK. So, in order to not come off in a negative light (even if you're sincere) just don't do it. For other girls, as soon as you drop a DC you've blew it. It changes the entire game. It goes from her wondering if you're interested in her to her wondering if she is interested in you. Don't let her get control of the situation. It's acceptable to hint that she's good looking, but try not to DC her. Not directly saying it often give it more value when you DO decide to say it. Sometimes in a DC I'll say "You're alright looking, I guess, but I'm much better looking than you are!" I kind of complimented her, but I immediately took it away by saying I was better looking than her. This puts you at a higher value than her and will make HER try to DHV.

Author:	Theris [ Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:06 am ]
Post subject:	Re: How I Game; From Me to You
Inner Game: It's VERY important to believe in yourself. If you don't believe in yourself, who's going to? I am lucky enough to have a good wing that I can call up any time and get reassurance and relay my field reports to. But, most of the time it's just me going solo and I rely on myself to push the boundaries of my comfort zone. Kino was one of the hardest things for me to pull off. It felt so foreign to me because it's something I've never done before. But trusting myself was a huge part of getting over that barrier. I'm going to talk about goal setting for a second. Set goals, trust your goals, and go out and make them reality. Giving myself short term goals, long term goals, and holding myself to those goals allowed me to achieve almost anything. Goal setting is a great way to keep on top of yourself and getting done what needs to be done! The trait of goal setting came easy for me because I'm an athlete. But for other people, it's about trial and error. When I set a goal for myself it's almost like a check list. At a party last night this is what my goal list looked in my head. . Open the hottest girl at this party. . Kino as many girls as possible. . Open a mixed set and successfully cut off an AFC. . DHV Here's how I completed each of these goals. There were two girls at the party who were about equal. They both were the hottest. So I opened both of them. One I opened and commented on how short she was (she said she was 5' 1") and told her she could be in high school. The second one I simply asked what she was drinking. It was a pretty crowded party so kino'ing a lot of people was easy. I just put my hand on everyone's back that I walked past and made my way through. I also kino'd the two hot girls into dancing (not at the same time) with me. I just grabbed their hips and pulled them into me. For the mixed set, there was a guy talking to a girl about his pineapple drink so I butted in and asked if I could try it. I told him it was awesome and he looked awesome then I opened the girl. I talked to her for a good five minutes and the guy was completely cut off. He walked away after two minutes. To DHV I told this girl how ripped I was and unbuttoned my shirt fully. It was a hawaii themed party so I wore stuff that was bright and showed off my body. Here's a picture of me and one of the hottest girls at the party. I'm not posting this stuff to rub in anyone's face or brag. I'm doing this as encouragement. I wish every single member of the PUA community success! Okay back to trusting yourself. Some days I go out into the field or text people and say to myself, "Wow, did I really just say that?" or "Did I really just do that?" I never cease to amaze myself. But, I trust my instincts and gut feelings. Having faith and trusting yourself is probably the most valuable asset any PUA can have. Trusting your actions will make you come off as confidant. Confidence and trusting yourself go hand-in-hand. It's easier said than done, but trust who you are and the things you've learned and you'll be just fine! This might be hard for some people with lower self esteem, but make an effort to trusting yourself and it will go miles! It will improve your self esteem, make you more confidant, and nothing will be able to stop you! If anyone needs some encouragement watch this video. It ALWAYS helps me when I need some encouragement!

Author:	Theris [ Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:17 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: How I Game; From Me to You
Seduction: So I've learned quite a bit since my last post. I've been hanging out with this girl (I wont mention her name or nickname that I gave her for confidentiality) and we hit it off right away. I played cocky-funny, neg'd her, shared interests, and kino'd. I did everything right with this girl. Honestly, it was a lot of fun. I would make fun of her, she would make fun of me. She just has this great personality and is an HB8. So I'll give you a run down of how I got her to bed and what I did. I met this girl on facebook (long story), but we go to the same university. For the first few days I just talked to her on facebook. I asked for her number, but she gave me some shitty excuse. So I kind of let her go, but I stayed in contact. She seemed cool so I said fuck it. After day 3 or 4 I messaged her, "Girl just give me your number." She was hesitant so I pressed her and VIOLA she gave it to me. As soon as she gave it to me I threw her a hard neg. I said, "You sure this is a real number?" She reassured that it was so I texted her saying it was me and she responded. IMPORTANT: I didn't respond until the next day. I would recommend to anyone who just got a number NOT TO RESPOND until the next day. If she texts you 2+ times then sure, you can respond the same day. During our facebook conversation I said we should meet up sometime, before she gave me her number. After I got it, I texted her we should meet up. She was hesitant at first, but I convinced her to get dinner with me at my dorm THE NEXT DAY. I pressed her to meet up ASAP. Don't come off too persistent, but do press her for a date/ to hang out. So we agreed to meet at a library in between our dorms. I wore something nice, but I didn't peacock or anything. Just dressed a step above casual. She walked in (I didn't notice her because I was at a different door) and caught me by surprise. I greeted her and led the way to my dorm. Immediately I started conversation. I just referenced shit she said before. She liked EDM so we talked about that. I was cool, confidant, and easy to talk to. We got to my dorm and got food. Everything went well. After dinner I didn't want her to go back so I invited her to my room. I said, "Hey, wanna come up to my room and show me some music?" I knew a bit about electronic but I didn't know a whole lot. But, I made it seem like I knew quite a bit. So I got her to show me more of the kind of music she likes and I got her to my room. We pretty much just chilled and listened to music. Then we watched a comedian and she left. I know what you're thinking. Think entire post is about seduction. I didn't do anything to her. I didn't go in for the kiss, nor did I try to hold her hand. I did do some playful kino, but I didn't escalate. This is important because I changed my game to her personality. It just didn't seem like the time or place so I trusted my gut and didn't go for it. But, this is when the story starts to pick up. So the next day she texts me and she talks about how confidant I was and how easy it was to talk to me. So I tell her we should chill again. I think it was the next day or a few days after I go to her place. She has a single with no roommate. We throw on a movie and I think to myself, 'now is the time to escalate.' During the movie I just put my arm around her and pulled her close. She said something but I just looked at her and smiled. Eventually I grabbed her hand and held her hand and next thing I know I'm making out with this girl. Everything is going great. BUT I didn't go in for the Fclose. I just made out with her, finished the movie, and left. Everything about what I did was so smooth. It was one thing right into another. Like a parabola; it was smooth escalation and she enjoyed it. The next day we end up hanging out again. Same thing happens. Except, I kept making subtle hints that I wanted to stay. Example: "This futon is really comfortable, I could stay here all night." After a few smooth phrases like that, the movie ended, and she offered for me to stay. It was cruise control from there until I go in for the Fclose. But, before that we made out and I was super playful. She's around 130, 5' 8" and I'm 145 5' 7". So to impress her and be playful I picked her up a lot and moved her around where I wanted and how I wanted like she was a feather. She made a comment about how other guys couldn't do that etc... Smooth line for you everyday gaming that I used, "Girl (or her name), I'm not like other guys." That statement fries girls minds. Want to know why? Becuase it is true. Us PUAs are so unique that no other guy will act like us. She'll never be able to find another guy like you even if she tried! So after I said that she starts teasing me all night and I start to think we're not going to do anything. I mess around and start to tease her and she allows it except for one spot. Her boobs. So I keep messing around and eventually I catch her boobs unprotected and I go in. Her boobs were her turn on spot. So after that I got my hands in her pants and she got hers in mine. I go in for the Fclose and meet some LMR. This is the first time I've gotten some LMR so it threw me off a bit. But, I didn't let her know that. I kept cool and thought to myself for a second. Her LMR statement was, "I'm not sure, we've only known each other for like a week. Do you think we're going too fast?" I thought for a second, then the PUA gods shined a bright light on me and something popped into my head. My reply was, "I don't think we're going to fast. I know it's been only a week, but I feel like I've known you since I was a kid." She couldn't get undressed faster. We Fclosed, I stayed the night, woke up the next morning and went home. We've hung out quite a bit these past few weeks, but she still can't get enough of me. I really hope this wasn't too long or boring and I hope somebody learns from this story. Be sure to let me know if this was good or bad! Catch you guys later, happy sarging.

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