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| Author: | Murdoc [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:45 am ] |
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Guys: I was really starting to hate all this PUA shit. I'm not in the game to be a Pick Up Guru or a Master. I just want to go out and have a good time and pretty much have my choice of women. I don't care to teach this shit professionally, or even pay to learn this stuff. This is something that should've come naturally to all of us, but it didn't. I would go out with a wingman and stalk the bars, doing everything wrong, approaching women I wasn't even necessarily attracted to. The nights were either boring, uneventful, or they would be completely horrible. Either way, I would go home feeling no better. Even though I would read up on my mistakes and try to correct them the next time I was still missing one major fucking point. I wasn't having fun. All this PUA shit is NOT FUN. I was not having fun. I was not bringing fun to the people I interacted with. I was too concerned with which phase I was in "A1 A2" fuck that shit. I dance. I dance well. I'm sorry if you don't. Mystery obviously does not because after reading his stuff I felt like girls were actually turned off by a man who danced. I'm sure I read it incorrectly, but basically my dancing ability is a key factor in the game that I'm developing for myself. I like girls who dance. I just basically told a girl to go fuck herself because not only does she not think she can dance well, but out on a date with me refused to even approach the dance floor. She suddenly became the most un-fun-loser-girl in the place and I desperately wanted to ditch her to pursue my own good time, however it was a double date and I couldn't do that to my buddy. I don't give a shit what you guys do to improve your game, but listen to my story of the past couple weeks and maybe it'll give you ideas on what is right for you, because there is no "one size fits all" PUA guide. We are unique and we need to channel that uniqueness in order to genuinely be attractive to women. Last Week: Turns out one of my buddies is an awesome wingman to have. He invites me out to a party for some friend of a friend of a friend. All girls. It's some lame ass bar downtown Manhattan. About an hour into the night a DJ turns up the music and plays some decent stuff. NOBODY is dancing. He and I grab some girls from the party and kick it on the floor. I dance hip-hop, he can't dance so he's just a goof. Girls respond positively to both of our styles. Girls with little dancing talent can get intimidated by me so they flock to him, and girls who are confident in dancing will step right up to me. The girls we have already are just our friends, but soon enough 4 random chicks hit the floor and start grinding on me and my buddy. We were Preselected Alpha Males creating our own good time. Grinding: I thought I knew what grinding was, but I had a revelation that night when I noticed I could feel the lips of this girl's vagina on my thigh. Another girl swabbed my crotch with her ass cheeks in some raunchy dance move. Various other girls throughout the night had their breasts against me while dancing. This is grinding. More girls came to the party and upon being introduced to me, one Chinese girl was instantly attracted to me. She wanted to dance with me badly and I could see it the way she was staring into my eyes with her forehead tilted toward me. It was at that moment, I realized I could dance with any woman in the place. I was Mr. Fun. I had women visibly attracted to me. I took the Chinese girl's number at the end of the night. This Past Weekend: A similar episode. Surprise BDay for my buddy in Manhattan, plus a friend of mine is home from Iraq. So we all meet at this swanky hotel penthouse lounge. My good buddy and wingman is there with me, plus another dude in the group is a good dancer. I've always seen him bust a move on the floor and have his pick of cute girls. Until the week before, I had never had that kind of success. So this was my chance to observe him and try it again for myself. It's 8 of us sitting around a table chatting, drinking. We have some girls in our group but my wingman looks around and notes "there are a LOT of attractive women in here". This includes our waitress. We get up and start dancing. Not with girls either. On our own. Our waitress comes through with an empty tray. I attempt to pry it from her hands so she can dance with me. She refuses with a big smile claiming she'll get into trouble. I see two fairly unattractive black girls swaying to the music and pull them over to dance with me. They resisted a little, but I wasn't pressuring too hard so they eventually came around. It doesn't matter how busted they are, it's still preselection somewhat, and if not I'm still creating my own fun time. The waitress comes back again, I playfully bump her butt with mine and she swats my arm. When she passes me again she squeezes my tricep. When she comes back with drinks, she brings me a free Voss water. Aside from the two black girls nobody was dancing with me yet. Two girls I know from work show up and dance with me. Instant preselection and suddenly every girl on the dance floor opened up. I danced with more girls that night than I did the week before. A lot of people think you can't talk when you dance. You CAN. Just keep it simple like "stop being a show off" or "so you think you're hot stuff, eh?" If she's dancing with you and smiling and rubbing her reproductive organs on you, guess what SHE'S ATTRACTED TO YOU. You can leave her and come back. You can say your thirsty and get some drinks and chat while you drink. I did not get the waitresses number, btw. I had to work early the next morning and my group was all leaving. So i tried to track her down to thank her for the free water, close my tab and get her digits, but she had actually gone for the night. It's too bad, she was really cute. In conclusion: I've always hated the idea of long scripted routines. They serve a purpose, and I understand that. Still I hated them. Now I found something that will work for me and I'm going to perfect it. This has revitalized my motivation. It's something that comes way more natural for me and it's way more fun than asking girls' opinions on things I never cared about anyhow. Sure, this only works in a dancing environment, but in a night I can dance with 5 different girls and probably walk away with all of their numbers once I become more advanced. This ought to help fill up my social calendar with some booty. If you guys are struggling with this shit and also not even enjoying it, maybe you need to step back and figure out a few things: 1- What are my goals? 2- What is my ideal fun environment? 3- Do my friends/wingmen compliment my style? I'm gonna begin a guide about dancing based on my experiences and my observations of other people in a dancing environment. I think PUAs that can't dance have really sold dancing short. |
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| Author: | delta4ce [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:01 am ] |
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hey i agree completely with dancing... its amazing... when i was a wbafc, the only way i could get a girl to come up to me was on the dancefloor lol... but it went nowhere from there because i was wbafc anyways... i think that a lot of being a pua has to do with understanding how women respond to certain actions and words and how to use your words and actions to elicit wanted responses.... so basically we have certain "methods"... and its definitely great when you can come up with your own method... if a method isn't "you," then either modify it or come up with your own... otherwise you'll seem fake -- which is probably one of the worst things to seem like |
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| Author: | Juice24 [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:11 am ] |
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I also think that being a PUA is not copying some1 else's routine, you need to find what works for you in the nature of the game. |
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| Author: | Archangel White Rose [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:43 am ] |
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And another PUA pro has been born! The greatest piece of advise in all of PU is "just be yourself" all other tips, techniques and tools are just ways to get you to the point where you know who you are and you are happy and confident with it. No method works better than your own method. How do you attract girls? What should you say and what are the routines? There are as much ways to get a girl as there are men out there. Now it is time to focus on the second biggest part of PUA- finding the girl that is right for you. |
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| Author: | Rye Lee [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:36 am ] |
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Totally man, very true! You can't just take someone else's image and glue it on yourself and expect it to work, cause you may not be that person at all, it might be completely wrong. You need to find what works for you and just use everything you know and learn about people and social dynamics to be the best person you can be, whatever that means. Women are attracted to men that are what they are and are good at what they are. |
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| Author: | Mister_GQ [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:35 am ] |
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i feel like i was about to post the same thing lol except the story |
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| Author: | Roads [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:25 am ] |
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Good job man. It's good to hear a success story from one of our own. Rock on! |
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| Author: | Jay Wa [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:24 pm ] |
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Murdoc, I commend your story and your positive feedback as well. I understand how it can be a bit depressing when you are not successful in the field. A lot of times you will not want to go out, or blame or rejections on the girl. The truth is that you just have to find something that works- quite often times it is just being yourself! I will definitely support you on this one: Dancing is money! As a fellow hip-hop dancer, I can tell you that it is probably one of the easiest ways to attract a woman. It is the quickest method to get energy and attention. . .Though sometimes it is difficult to talk to them if the music is too loud. (P.S. It is also really helpful if you are the first one on the dancefloor.) |
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