PUA Forum :: Mystery and Matador on CNN

Women will always say they hate it. Because they know it is powerful and it works. After years of men being frustrated with women it would only be a matter of time before men worked it out to turn things around. These women are hypercrits, think of all the dating advice they have in magazines, how many books there are out there for women, but as soon as men start doing the same thing they get pissed. They think its all about tricks and only stuff for players. They got it all it wrong.

quote 'You are making women seem as if they dont want to be happy and seduced'

What women say and what they really want are too different things. They want men they are attracted to, but they dont want to feel they where used by a PUA.

quote 'only once you get into it do you understand what its really about'

Exactly, but these girls aint into it and they dont understand. They think they are being tricked by player PUA's.

Thats why its best to develope your game, so you dont come across as obvious.

Nonetheless, making it mainstream will not mean anything. Most people just don't have the motivation to learn this stuff, it's a lot to learn. The people who historically been motivated to learn this, will be the ones to continue to learn it. I know of many of my friends who have started to learn this stuff after seeing it in the main stream, just to get a basic knowledge and go about using their natural game.

Author:	Success [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:05 am ]
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They were on CNN tonight (FEB 10th) which is great. With more publicity comes more customers which as we all know result to most of us living a better, happier more fulfilling life. The only worry I have is that the game will eventually fall into the wrong hands. I've heard/seen examples of that happening but I'm talking on a much larger scale. Suppose The Game gets so big (which it will) people start abusing it which gives all PUA's a bad reputation. We will ultimately become the black sheep of society. Most women already think what Mystery is doing objectifies women and degrades them. Imagine when they encounter PUA's with bad intentions. Ones that forget about "Leave them better than you found them." I think it's great people have access to this information and can use it to better themselves. At the same time I feel that the same information is too attainable and will fall into the wrong hands. What are your opinions?

Author:	mozyFresh [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:19 am ]
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Women will always say they hate it. Because they know it is powerful and it works. After years of men being frustrated with women it would only be a matter of time before men worked it out to turn things around. These women are hypercrits, think of all the dating advice they have in magazines, how many books there are out there for women, but as soon as men start doing the same thing they get pissed. They think its all about tricks and only stuff for players. They got it all it wrong.

Author:	xxIcexx [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:48 am ]
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Once is became mainstream, women knew about it and the basics. If what you are projecting is true, they will know about opinion openers which a good 75% off new people use as a crutch. So once some lame comes up and asks for an opinion, they will be able to weed out the people they dont want in their lives, such as the PUA's. That is why it is better to learn the structure and apply your own material. It is alot harder, but more natural and free flowing. Don't worry about the M3 model or the phases, once you really gain enough knowledge, you will know where you stand.

Author:	Success [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:15 am ]
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Quote: Women will always say they hate it. Because they know it is powerful and it works. After years of men being frustrated with women it would only be a matter of time before men worked it out to turn things around. These women are hypercrits, think of all the dating advice they have in magazines, how many books there are out there for women, but as soon as men start doing the same thing they get pissed. They think its all about tricks and only stuff for players. They got it all it wrong. You are making women seem as if they don't want to be happy and seduced. It's like David D says, no woman wakes up and says to herself "Today I will not be swept off my feet." Women are dying for men who know how to push their buttons. I've had lots of girls tell me to help out other guys because they love me. As soon as most women find out about the game, they feel very used because they've probably come across someone that gamed them and took advantage of them. Even at first glance, the game seems really sexist and degrading. Only once you get into it do you understand what it's really about.

Author:	Success [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:35 am ]
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More and more people are becoming PUAs. This stuff sounds completely crazy when you see Mystery talk about it on the news BUT once you see a guy in a bar with 6 girls around him and you hear he used Mystery's Method, you kind of get a bit more motivation therefore being more likely to end up a PUA. I've been seeing more and more guys on buses or the street use canned material.

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Author:	gravesRR7 [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:06 am ]
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anyone have a link to see this show?

Author:	worldwidechris [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:12 am ]
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What did they talk about on CNN?

Author:	mozyFresh [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:38 am ]
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quote 'You are making women seem as if they dont want to be happy and seduced' What women say and what they really want are too different things. They want men they are attracted to, but they dont want to feel they where used by a PUA. quote 'only once you get into it do you understand what its really about' Exactly, but these girls aint into it and they dont understand. They think they are being tricked by player PUA's. Thats why its best to develope your game, so you dont come across as obvious.

Author:	Success [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:01 am ]
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Quote: quote 'You are making women seem as if they dont want to be happy and seduced' What women say and what they really want are too different things. They want men they are attracted to, but they dont want to feel they where used by a PUA. quote 'only once you get into it do you understand what its really about' Exactly, but these girls aint into it and they dont understand. They think they are being tricked by player PUA's. Thats why its best to develope your game, so you dont come across as obvious. When I said women want to be seduced, I never asked them. It's just fucking obvious.

Author:	TheChosenOne [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:19 am ]
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i believe more people with check this site out now. its a good thing for people who just want to get a girl and keep her. but if others just want to pick up girls, fuck them, and kick her to the curb, then this would be bad. just read the new users post count, and read what they posted. if they're asking questions like how can i open this kind of set? then it would sound like that person really wants help. but if someone comes in here and ask how do i fuck this hot babe? then hes obviously up to no good because he sounds like he just wants to get some ass. thats my opinion

Author:	ace_of_spades [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:39 pm ]
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Quote: Nonetheless, making it mainstream will not mean anything. Most people just don't have the motivation to learn this stuff, it's a lot to learn. The people who historically been motivated to learn this, will be the ones to continue to learn it. I know of many of my friends who have started to learn this stuff after seeing it in the main stream, just to get a basic knowledge and go about using their natural game. I couldn't agree more. Pickup is extremely difficult and requires dedication, commitment, the ability to get out of your comfort zone and to tolerate embarrassment. It's like the gym - everybody knows you can get ripped if you work out 4 times a week, but how many guys actually have the perseverance to go through with it? You'd think with gyms becoming mainstream everybody would become physically fit all of a sudden - never happened. Same with pickup. It's the few with motivation and the drive who will actually reach mastery.

Author:	3 hands [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:05 pm ]
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I couldn't really care if they were on CNN or not, I'll watch it on youtube ofcourse. But appart from that I couldn't really care, I only use about 1% of what they teach and girls can't catch me on the 1%. And that 1% is all about self improvement so it's all me So bring on the girls that know about game.

Author:	mozyFresh [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:19 pm ]
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I like your idea about the gym compared to PUA. But there is a difference, going to the gym doesn't teach how to become a ladies man and get you laid, men are much more motovated by the idea of having sex with a gorgeous girl. But there is a similarity, people lazy & this stuff is hard work, is hurts sometimes just like lifting, it costs money and requires time and patience to get the right results, an not everybody can do it. I like your example but this has the potential to become even bigger than the gym

Author:	mozyFresh [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:04 pm ]
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At what point did i say that getting buff aint good for attraction? Thats clearly not what i was saying. Being build like a brick shit house doesn't garantee you the ladies, there's good looking guys that struggle with getting GF's and the type of women they want. This stuff makes it possible for them to do that.

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Author:	marvin25 [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:45 pm ]
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I learned about this community from Penthouse Magazine believe it or not. They ran an article a few months back by Neil Strauss called "The 30 Day Experiment." Those of you that have "The Rules of the Game" will recognize this. I read it and wanted to know more about who this guy was and why it was such a big deal that he was doing this experiment, so I went out and bought a copy of "The Game." I was amazed by it and wanted to learn as much as possible. That was around the beginning of December. I never started looking for forums until mid-January. Most guys won't even go that far. After they read the book, they will probably either not believe it or just quit at that. I tried to explain some of this to a few buddies and they thought I was nuts. Another thing I have realized is that I am not just here to get laid. That was one of my main reasons at first, but I've realized there is so much more to this than just getting pussy whenever you want it. It is all about improving your life in all aspects. Sure, alot of people are gonna figure this out and catch some guys in the field with it. I say good. That is just one more reason to come up with your own shit and not steal from other guys. There is nothing wrong with sharing material, but if it does not apply to you or your life, don't use it cause you will just get caught in a lie eventually. In the end, the more attention PUA's get the better. It will weed out the weak ones using it for the wrong reasons, and strengthen the good ones using it for the right reasons.