PUA Forum :: multiple "relationships" & feelings

If you feel bad about losing one girl in a "multiple relationship" then you're not really in a "multiple relationship" as you claim.

I guess what im getting at is any advanced ideas guys have on making her be monogamous to you, but you be polygamous with her knowledge. I've done this once with a 7.5 who was a virgin, but that's because she was very submissive by nature.

so it tends to always pan out like this

see a girl for a month or so, its mutually disucussed that your not exclusive & you will both see other people.

Im seeing other girls, but the thought of her seeing other guys is almost unbearable (being hot and awesome its inevitable she will). sometimes she will tell you she slept with another guy and that just completely turns me off and I want to break it off with her.

after a month or two she ends up breaking it off with me because the other guy wants to be exclusive or I break it off with her because the thought of her seeing other guys has repulsed me.

I know this is classic wanting to have your cake & eat it too, but just wondering how other guys deal with this.

And improve your bedroom skills.

classic example of onitis/neediness.... Something is going on, i bet is neediness vibes.

in my experience never this fast(a month)

well I try make sure Im the best guy they've ever had in bed, thats actually my main tactic lol
those orgasms where she cant speak after but just lets out a long sigh and giggles a bit. (sorry for the brag)

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And improve your bedroom skills.

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classic example of onitis/neediness.... Something is going on, i bet is neediness vibes.

Building solid emotional connections is kinda my specialty, I dont really like speed seduction (possibly my neediness) because sex is sooo much better with someone you have a strong connection with.

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in my experience never this fast(a month)

I do 99% daygame with very long, deep conversation driven sets (10-20 hours 1on1 convo before sex) so they tend to fall pretty hard for me quite quickly. and the average age is 17-22 so quite often theyve never experienced a guy who has game/alpha/c&f but also sensitive.

I guess what im getting at is any advanced ideas guys have on making her be monogamous to you, but you be polygamous .

i am telling you probably neediness vibes...

I asked the OP the above set of questions
Since the OP cannot answer any of those questions in his PM, my gut feeling has been validated.

but the thought of her seeing other guys is almost unbearable

Typical on so many levels...
"I'm not needy I just can't do it without the rapport."- Yeah. Neither can I. One nighters are not my stuff, girls don't seem to leave me after a month for some reason however....

Is this some past trauma or some PUA BS you believe that relationships are all bound to fail?(No offense to the guys who are happy with their ONS and w/o relationships but this dude is clearly not happy...)

Author:	kbird [ Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:44 am ]
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so it tends to always pan out like this see a girl for a month or so, its mutually disucussed that your not exclusive & you will both see other people. Im seeing other girls, but the thought of her seeing other guys is almost unbearable (being hot and awesome its inevitable she will). sometimes she will tell you she slept with another guy and that just completely turns me off and I want to break it off with her. after a month or two she ends up breaking it off with me because the other guy wants to be exclusive or I break it off with her because the thought of her seeing other guys has repulsed me. I know this is classic wanting to have your cake & eat it too, but just wondering how other guys deal with this.

Author:	Monsignor Crisanto [ Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:50 am ]
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Something's fishy with this thread. Here are two great community wisdom fer yah: 1. Grab your balls and slam them on the table. 2. Sarge more girls. If you feel bad about losing one girl in a "multiple relationship" then you're not really in a "multiple relationship" as you claim. When you're in multiple relationships, your body won't give a fuck if you lost 1 or 3 girls. In fact, you might even feel relief sometimes because your balls won't hurt too much for a few weeks from all of that fucking and wear and tear. How do I know this? The only time I felt what you described here is when I'm fucking just one woman. By the way, this thread should be in the General Questions.

Author:	kbird [ Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:36 am ]
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Quote: Sarge more girls. yes I obviously do that Quote: If you feel bad about losing one girl in a "multiple relationship" then you're not really in a "multiple relationship" as you claim. why would anyone even consider wasting time on a girl who is not amazing enough to make him miss her when she is gone, especially when he is in abundance. I guess what im getting at is any advanced ideas guys have on making her be monogamous to you, but you be polygamous with her knowledge. I've done this once with a 7.5 who was a virgin, but that's because she was very submissive by nature.

Author:	Monsignor Crisanto [ Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:35 am ]
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Quote: I guess what im getting at is any advanced ideas guys have on making her be monogamous to you, but you be polygamous with her knowledge. I've done this once with a 7.5 who was a virgin, but that's because she was very submissive by nature. This one: drama-free-relationships-3-the-soft-next-vt125554.html And improve your bedroom skills. Stay away from commercial bullshit like Sex God.

Author:	skills360 [ Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:04 pm ]
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Quote: so it tends to always pan out like this see a girl for a month or so, its mutually disucussed that your not exclusive & you will both see other people. Im seeing other girls, but the thought of her seeing other guys is almost unbearable (being hot and awesome its inevitable she will). sometimes she will tell you she slept with another guy and that just completely turns me off and I want to break it off with her. after a month or two she ends up breaking it off with me because the other guy wants to be exclusive or I break it off with her because the thought of her seeing other guys has repulsed me. I know this is classic wanting to have your cake & eat it too, but just wondering how other guys deal with this. Nope, this is the classic example of onitis/neediness.... Though is part of the territory from girls to move on, but in my experience never this fast(a month). Something is going on, i bet is neediness vibes.

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Author:	kbird [ Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:33 am ]
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Quote: And improve your bedroom skills. well I try make sure Im the best guy they've ever had in bed, thats actually my main tactic lol those orgasms where she cant speak after but just lets out a long sigh and giggles a bit. (sorry for the brag) Quote: classic example of onitis/neediness.... Something is going on, i bet is neediness vibes. Building solid emotional connections is kinda my specialty, I dont really like speed seduction (possibly my neediness) because sex is sooo much better with someone you have a strong connection with. Quote: in my experience never this fast(a month) I do 99% daygame with very long, deep conversation driven sets (10-20 hours 1on1 convo before sex) so they tend to fall pretty hard for me quite quickly. and the average age is 17-22 so quite often theyve never experienced a guy who has game/alpha/c&f but also sensitive.

Author:	kbird [ Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:45 am ]
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on further deliberation: my policy is always: dont ask, dont tell. I can get by just fine in that situation, but sometimes they just have this compulsion to blurt out whenever they get with a new guy, or tell enough info for you to easily fill in the blanks. on deliberation I think this "shit test?" of them telling me is what actually triggers the neediness. maybe establishing that rule more is what's needed.

Author:	Monsignor Crisanto [ Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:57 pm ]
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Quote: well I try make sure Im the best guy they've ever had in bed, thats actually my main tactic lol those orgasms where she cant speak after but just lets out a long sigh and giggles a bit. (sorry for the brag) We'll need a more concrete description than that to diagnose the problem why girls almost always want out in a month's time with you. The details that we need are: 1. How many times does her labia majora and minora twitch involuntarily after every orgasm? 2. Does her vaginal hole contract x number of times after you take your penis out? If yes, how many contractions? 3. Does her stomach muscles harden? If yes, how many spasms did you count during her first sex orgasm with you? What was the most number of spasms did you count in a month's time? What's the least number of times? 4. When lying down, how often did she raise her entire body with only a small area of her back on the bed to go after your penis as you took it out? If x times out of 10, then how many is x? 5. As you have observed item #4, did her entire body quiver and her legs weaken? 6. Did her chest area redden? How red were her ears every time she peaked? 7. Can you give more details on your push-pull makeout routine and why do you think it takes the girl some 4 hours from makeout to f-close? 8. How many Akon songs have played in the background from penile insertion to popping your load?

Author:	skills360 [ Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:16 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: And improve your bedroom skills. well I try make sure Im the best guy they've ever had in bed, thats actually my main tactic lol those orgasms where she cant speak after but just lets out a long sigh and giggles a bit. (sorry for the brag) Quote: classic example of onitis/neediness.... Something is going on, i bet is neediness vibes. Building solid emotional connections is kinda my specialty, I dont really like speed seduction (possibly my neediness) because sex is sooo much better with someone you have a strong connection with. Quote: in my experience never this fast(a month) I do 99% daygame with very long, deep conversation driven sets (10-20 hours 1on1 convo before sex) so they tend to fall pretty hard for me quite quickly. and the average age is 17-22 so quite often theyve never experienced a guy who has game/alpha/c&f but also sensitive. What does that has to do with my answers, i am telling you probably neediness vibes... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNovswAlmio

Author:	Monsignor Crisanto [ Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:55 pm ]
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Since I have a gut feeling that there's something fishy about this thread (several of the claims just don't add up based on my experience) I asked the OP the above set of questions with some 'validating questions' (there are several fake questions in there along with the genuine questions). Since the OP cannot answer any of those questions in his PM, my gut feeling has been validated. But for the benefit of the guys who still don't know what a woman's orgasm looks like, here: http://www.kinseyinstitute.org/publicat ... review.pdf The actual description starts at page 183 and ends at page 191. So many women fake their orgasms, here: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162- ... 91704.html With the paper I've linked above, aspiring PUAs and battle-tested PUAs can better discern if the girl is faking it or not. It's easier to keep women as FWBs or for MLTR if you know what you're doing in bed. Hope this helps a lot of guys out there. For the OP, sarge more girls.

Author:	Heywood Jablowme [ Tue Jun 18, 2013 5:15 pm ]
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Quote: I guess what im getting at is any advanced ideas guys have on making her be monogamous to you, but you be polygamous . BE That slick.

Author:	kbird [ Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:38 pm ]
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Quote: i am telling you probably neediness vibes... most definitely, if you define neediness as requiring ANY external validation your right. you are obv the polar opposite to that definition being into speed seduction, ive had a few 1 hour lays and was totally not my thing. I NEED that deep rapport & connection... Quote: I asked the OP the above set of questions Since the OP cannot answer any of those questions in his PM, my gut feeling has been validated. lolol... guess im just usually too fucked after sex to count X things happening to her box :p and I approach EVERY DAY Quote: BE That slick. me like

Author:	In$tinct [ Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:01 pm ]
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Typical on so many levels... "I'm not needy I just can't do it without the rapport."- Yeah. Neither can I. One nighters are not my stuff, girls don't seem to leave me after a month for some reason however.... My, what can be the cause of that? It's not "expecting any form of external validation" that creates your needy vibes. It's THIS: Quote: but the thought of her seeing other guys is almost unbearable What do you expect? You tell her you don't want to be exclusive then you want her to be exclusive with you. If you want one girl so bad then why do you fear being with her in a serious relationship? Is this some past trauma or some PUA BS you believe that relationships are all bound to fail?(No offense to the guys who are happy with their ONS and w/o relationships but this dude is clearly not happy...) In summary: You are telling the girl you don't want to be exlusive yet you are sending opposite vibes all the time. If you can't play by your own rules you are done for good. Grow a pair. Either sarge more and be less committed to every girl, or find one to whom you can commit, but right now you are only bullshitting us, your girls, and most importantly yourself. Neglecting facts won't help either.

Author:	kbird [ Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:34 am ]
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Quote: Typical on so many levels... "I'm not needy I just can't do it without the rapport."- Yeah. Neither can I. One nighters are not my stuff, girls don't seem to leave me after a month for some reason however.... sorry to clear up, I leave them 90% of the time. and when they leave me its usually because one of the guys they are seeing wants to be exclusive. Quote: Is this some past trauma or some PUA BS you believe that relationships are all bound to fail?(No offense to the guys who are happy with their ONS and w/o relationships but this dude is clearly not happy...) haha yea this post is a bit of a downer, its the last kink im working out of my shit. got no problems with guys who are into ONS, infact I wish i were into them because it would make life so much simpler. but the first time I had sex with a girl I had lots of rapport for (15th girl) it was like losing my virginity again... never going back :p I think its BAWS as fuk to want to have girls be exclusive to you and you see more than one. no emperor is gonna share his wives, I dont wanna share mine & be a cuckold :p

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Author:	In$tinct [ Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:19 pm ]
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Sorry to tell you. Fairy tails don't happen. Half of the emperor's court is banging his wives without him knowing. Also, he doesn't share because he is the fucking emperor and he can do whatever he wants, not because he is emotionally attached to his wives. The problem is that the only thing common in you and the emperor is being extremely selfish. If you want girls to fall for you(I mean really fall for you... otherwise they'll never be exlusive) while you do not love them, that is hurting them intentionally, just because it hurts your pretty pride when someone is banging your fuck buddies. Listen those women are not your property, do not act like they are, and do not expect them to behave like they are. That's pretty old fashioned, and very far from attractive. I don't know if you realize what you are expecting from these girls. Because you basically want them to be your personal sluts without any compensation whatsoever. Life doesn't work this way. You trade sex for sex. And you trade exclusiveness for exclusiveness. If you don't then you are just using the other person.