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Author:  Warped Mindless [ Tue May 14, 2013 7:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Even MORE tips for better game! (34 to be exact)

1) Doesn't matter how mad you make her, if you don't act like a bitch while shes mad, she will get over it and forgive you.

2) Its not what you say when you open, its HOW you open. Strong eye contact, good posture, strong masculine voice, etc.

3) Mackalmore is wrong... your grandparents clothes aren't sexy. Be stylish. To many woman, stylish = sexy.

4) Night time street game after the club closes is the eaisest time to pull SNLs.

5) Fundamentals matter more than lines or routines.

6) A little "game" goes a long way. Most guys are WAY to gamey. 80% normal with 20% "game" mixed in. Don't be a clown.

7) If your socially awkward, stop wasting time learning PU and seduction strategies. Become normal and socially adjusted first.

8) "Game" is pretty much useless until your at least average looking. Loose weight, whiten your teeth, take care of acne, and dress well.

9) Boosting your testosterone will have positive impacts on your game

10) If she lets you hold her hands, you can kiss her.

11) Go really aggressive/sexual with a chick and smell her neck, caress the back of her neck, etc. Then completely ignore her/push her away after. I've done that with several women. Women go nuts and chase like crazy.

12) If you believe that there are chicks out there that are attracted to you (and there are plenty), and you also believe that they will be throwing you IOI's (aka. pursuing you), then you will happen to notice the chicks that are attracted to you, and you will pick up on their IOI's. Its just like when you buy a new car and then suddenly it seems like that kind of car is everywhere.

13) Escalation reveals how much she actually likes you.

14) If you ever start to wonder "should I escalate?" You should have 5 minutes ago. Same with kissing.

15) Follow my 50% rule. More than 50% of your escalation attempts being resisted then your moving to fast, less than 50% and your moving to slow. 50% is the perfect number. Keep close to it and you will do fine.

16) "If a man works to make himself the best person he can be, plenty of women will naturally be attracted to him and try to seduce him by being all cute and flirty like girls do. It's then his job to move the relationship forward if he likes her. In reality, she's doing most of the 'picking up' while the guy pats himself on the back for his 'skills.'" - Nick Sparks

17) "So, you've got these numbers. Call them up and fluff with them a little bit, then tell them, "Look, I know a lot of guys beat around the bush and it drives girls nuts. I'm not that guy. I'm calling because you seemed to me very attractive and switched-on. I want to be honest and tell you that I am looking for a very sexually adventurous, open minded, fun girl, for however long it may last. If you think we'd be sexually compatible...then let's meet."Boom. Done. Stop talking. If she says, "Yes", invite her over or otherwise nail down the logistics and fuck her. Because she WILL fuck you. If she says "No", then politely say, "I understand completely. Keep my number and if you want to at least talk it over, hit me up.", hangup and call the next one." - Unknown

18) Seductive Eye contact can say more than any routine ever can.

19) Missing escalation windows will cause women to get bored with you very fast.

20) Seduction is a forward process. Going backwards will also make women bored with you.

21) If you think shes out of your league, you're right. If you knows shes not, you're right.

22) To combat approach anxiety, focus on the heels of your feet and walk towards the girl.

23) STDs are way more rare than you think. Wear condoms and stop worrying about it.

24) Err on the side of being more aggressive.

25) When a woman flakes, don't throw away her number! Instead invite her out with you and your friends to any kind of social outing. Many women who either don't like you enough, or isn't comfortable enough to meet up with you 1 on 1 will meet up with you in a safe social setting with other people. From there you have a second chance to seducer her.

26) A good facial hair style can make you look much more masculine and handsome.

27) On a first date, start talking to women like you have known them for years.

28) Dont change her mind, change her emotions.

29) An attractive lifestyle will get you more women then decent cold approch skills.

30) Being "edgy" is more important than being handsome. Exude a sexual vibe!

31) Constantly trying to monitor your body language is a loosing battle. Focus on having fun and being relaxed and your body language will auto-correct itself.

32) Don't ask chick that you know personally out over facebook. They will find you lame.

33) To much kissing in the bar can destroy the sexual tension.

34) Cocky funny usually comes off and try hard and lame.

Author:  Jay (Majik) [ Tue May 14, 2013 7:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Even MORE tips for better game! (34 to be exact)

Quote:
1) Doesn't matter how mad you make her, if you don't act like a bitch while shes mad, she will get over it and forgive you.

2) Its not what you say when you open, its HOW you open. Strong eye contact, good posture, strong masculine voice, etc.

3) Mackalmore is wrong... your grandparents clothes aren't sexy. Be stylish. To many woman, stylish = sexy.

4) Night time street game after the club closes is the eaisest time to pull SNLs.

5) Fundamentals matter more than lines or routines.

6) A little "game" goes a long way. Most guys are WAY to gamey. 80% normal with 20% "game" mixed in. Don't be a clown.

7) If your socially awkward, stop wasting time learning PU and seduction strategies. Become normal and socially adjusted first.

8) "Game" is pretty much useless until your at least average looking. Loose weight, whiten your teeth, take care of acne, and dress well.

9) Boosting your testosterone will have positive impacts on your game

10) If she lets you hold her hands, you can kiss her.

11) Go really aggressive/sexual with a chick and smell her neck, caress the back of her neck, etc. Then completely ignore her/push her away after. I've done that with several women. Women go nuts and chase like crazy.

12) If you believe that there are chicks out there that are attracted to you (and there are plenty), and you also believe that they will be throwing you IOI's (aka. pursuing you), then you will happen to notice the chicks that are attracted to you, and you will pick up on their IOI's. Its just like when you buy a new car and then suddenly it seems like that kind of car is everywhere.

13) Escalation reveals how much she actually likes you.

14) If you ever start to wonder "should I escalate?" You should have 5 minutes ago. Same with kissing.

15) Follow my 50% rule. More than 50% of your escalation attempts being resisted then your moving to fast, less than 50% and your moving to slow. 50% is the perfect number. Keep close to it and you will do fine.

16) "If a man works to make himself the best person he can be, plenty of women will naturally be attracted to him and try to seduce him by being all cute and flirty like girls do. It's then his job to move the relationship forward if he likes her. In reality, she's doing most of the 'picking up' while the guy pats himself on the back for his 'skills.'" - Nick Sparks

17) "So, you've got these numbers. Call them up and fluff with them a little bit, then tell them, "Look, I know a lot of guys beat around the bush and it drives girls nuts. I'm not that guy. I'm calling because you seemed to me very attractive and switched-on. I want to be honest and tell you that I am looking for a very sexually adventurous, open minded, fun girl, for however long it may last. If you think we'd be sexually compatible...then let's meet."Boom. Done. Stop talking. If she says, "Yes", invite her over or otherwise nail down the logistics and fuck her. Because she WILL fuck you. If she says "No", then politely say, "I understand completely. Keep my number and if you want to at least talk it over, hit me up.", hangup and call the next one." - Unknown

18) Seductive Eye contact can say more than any routine ever can.

19) Missing escalation windows will cause women to get bored with you very fast.

20) Seduction is a forward process. Going backwards will also make women bored with you.

21) If you think shes out of your league, you're right. If you knows shes not, you're right.

22) To combat approach anxiety, focus on the heels of your feet and walk towards the girl.

23) STDs are way more rare than you think. Wear condoms and stop worrying about it.

24) Err on the side of being more aggressive.

25) When a woman flakes, don't throw away her number! Instead invite her out with you and your friends to any kind of social outing. Many women who either don't like you enough, or isn't comfortable enough to meet up with you 1 on 1 will meet up with you in a safe social setting with other people. From there you have a second chance to seducer her.

26) A good facial hair style can make you look much more masculine and handsome.

27) On a first date, start talking to women like you have known them for years.

28) Dont change her mind, change her emotions.

29) An attractive lifestyle will get you more women then decent cold approch skills.

30) Being "edgy" is more important than being handsome. Exude a sexual vibe!

31) Constantly trying to monitor your body language is a loosing battle. Focus on having fun and being relaxed and your body language will auto-correct itself.

32) Don't ask chick that you know personally out over facebook. They will find you lame.

33) To much kissing in the bar can destroy the sexual tension.

34) Cocky funny usually comes off and try hard and lame.
All VERY VERY true. Nice post man

Author:  zmbcm1 [ Tue May 14, 2013 7:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Even MORE tips for better game! (34 to be exact)

Brilliant. Agree with all 34.

Author:  FlexBrah [ Tue May 14, 2013 11:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Even MORE tips for better game! (34 to be exact)

Awesome bro.

Just curious. I will use the heel trick for my AA tomorrow. Any reason why it works.

Author:  7000 [ Tue May 14, 2013 11:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Even MORE tips for better game! (34 to be exact)

33 of them I agree with entirely.

The only one I would change is number 4 - I don't know if it's just the clubs I go to or what, but normally outside is crammed full, you can barely move whilst people are waiting to get taxis etc., and you're stuck between two styles of pick up - you can't use any dancefloor type game because, well, you're not on the dance floor, and you can't really start a conversation and escalate because the girls are worried about losing their friends and having to pay for a taxi or worried about looking like sluts in front of all the massive crowd that has gathered outside the club. The last two or three songs (ie; 15 minutes or so before the club closes) is usually the best time I find.

Author:  Monsignor Crisanto [ Wed May 15, 2013 4:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Even MORE tips for better game! (34 to be exact)

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23) STDs are way more rare than you think. Wear condoms and stop worrying about it.
I've seen most of your techniques and advices work on field. I can even go back to remembering my prePUA years and think, yeah, this dude is right, that's the way it happens.

WM/JS, I've been infected thrice and spent loads of money treating chlamydia and gonorrhea. This was the time when I just went ahead and fucked horny women that showed some measure of interest. And I'm not going to ask you to take my word for it.

Here's what the US CDC says, http://www.cdc.gov/std/stats/STI-Estima ... b-2013.pdf, there are more than 110 million sexually transmitted infections in the US based on CDC analysis and estimates.

How does that compare to the US population? Here, http://www.census.gov/popclock/ The US population clock this very moment stands at 315 million.

Now, wearing condoms gives you a false sense of security. Why?
  • 1. If the chick gives you a blowjob and you're not wearing any condom, you'll get infected. STDs are also prevalent in the mouth. It's just lame getting a blowjob while you're wearing a condom.

    2. If you eat her pussy, you'll get STD in your mouth. It's just so fucking lame to put on a condom on your tongue.

    3. If part of your foreplay involves touching her pussy to get her wet and you accidentally touched your eyes after kino escalating on her clit or labia majora, you'll get STD in your eyes.
I agree with most of your ideas but with some reservations on your screening strategies and your concept of time wasters. For me, the absolute time waster is a chick with STI who gets you infected putting you out of the game for 30 days or so for SPAM.

:twisted:

Author:  7000 [ Wed May 15, 2013 10:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Even MORE tips for better game! (34 to be exact)

But how do you screen for girls with infection? I've known some who looked the "type" to be infected, but were actually virgins! And then I slept with one girl who was very sweet and innocent type, but texted me a few months later saying "I've got chlamydia you might want to get checked" (I was fine, must have been after me).

It's extremely rare to catch an STI through the mouth, although it can happen, admittedly. There is no way to tell who has an STI or not, so you can either let it affect your game to the point where you never sleep with anyone until they've had a test before hand, or you can sleep with who you like in a safe manner (ie; protection).

Author:  Monsignor Crisanto [ Wed May 15, 2013 12:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Even MORE tips for better game! (34 to be exact)

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It's extremely rare to catch an STI through the mouth, although it can happen, admittedly. There is no way to tell who has an STI or not, so you can either let it affect your game to the point where you never sleep with anyone until they've had a test before hand, or you can sleep with who you like in a safe manner (ie; protection).
American Sexual Health Association: "More than 50 percent of the adult population in the United States has oral herpes, typically caused by herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV-1). Most people contract oral herpes when they are children by receiving a kiss from a friend or relative."

http://www.ashasexualhealth.org/std-sti ... erpes.html

As PUAs we can continue to be naive or more methodical in our screening. Screening should not only be about screening the easy lays but should also include screening out the freaks, drama queens and/or high STD risk girls. There are several ways to screen out these girls and danger signs to look for.

Clozer puts everything in perspective. Screening for quality is never a bad thing versus laying 100 girls a year. Anybody here who claims to have fucked more than 200 women and has not encountered even one STI is a KJ.

:twisted:

Author:  Jay (Majik) [ Wed May 15, 2013 5:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Even MORE tips for better game! (34 to be exact)

Quote:
Quote:
23) STDs are way more rare than you think. Wear condoms and stop worrying about it.
I've seen most of your techniques and advices work on field. I can even go back to remembering my prePUA years and think, yeah, this dude is right, that's the way it happens.

WM/JS, I've been infected thrice and spent loads of money treating chlamydia and gonorrhea. This was the time when I just went ahead and fucked horny women that showed some measure of interest. And I'm not going to ask you to take my word for it.

Here's what the US CDC says, http://www.cdc.gov/std/stats/STI-Estima ... b-2013.pdf, there are more than 110 million sexually transmitted infections in the US based on CDC analysis and estimates.

How does that compare to the US population? Here, http://www.census.gov/popclock/ The US population clock this very moment stands at 315 million.

Now, wearing condoms gives you a false sense of security. Why?
  • 1. If the chick gives you a blowjob and you're not wearing any condom, you'll get infected. STDs are also prevalent in the mouth. It's just lame getting a blowjob while you're wearing a condom.

    2. If you eat her pussy, you'll get STD in your mouth. It's just so fucking lame to put on a condom on your tongue.

    3. If part of your foreplay involves touching her pussy to get her wet and you accidentally touched your eyes after kino escalating on her clit or labia majora, you'll get STD in your eyes.
I agree with most of your ideas but with some reservations on your screening strategies and your concept of time wasters. For me, the absolute time waster is a chick with STI who gets you infected putting you out of the game for 30 days or so for SPAM.

:twisted:
Condoms actually don't prevent STDs.

Most STD viruses can actually slip through the netting style design of a latex condom.

Lets just Nerf the world lol

Author:  Paramount21 [ Thu May 16, 2013 2:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Even MORE tips for better game! (34 to be exact)

not that bad of a post but some of the stuff is pretty obvious like testosterone helping your game

overall I find this to be a lot of recycled stuff that about 10 other PUA forum posters seem to put up

Author:  zmbcm1 [ Thu May 16, 2013 5:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Even MORE tips for better game! (34 to be exact)

Quote:

Condoms actually don't prevent STDs.

Most STD viruses can actually slip through the netting style design of a latex condom.

Lets just Nerf the world lol
You're putting people's health in danger by spreading misinformation.

The primary viruses of concern with sex are: Hepatitis, HIV, HPV, and HSV.
Hepatitis and HIV are transmitted through body fluids. As long as body fluids do not go around the barrier to infectable sites (such as foreskin, or the vagina), HIV and Hepatitis CANNOT be transmitted through intercourse.
I have worked with VERY nasty VERY small diatomic chemicals using latex gloves. Latex is completely impermeable to almost any molecule, including HF (which is small enough to go through your skin and dissolves your bone), even though it may be degraded by it with time. The only thing that can go through latex is certain organic compounds like methyl mercury and some industrial solvents. A latex condom is airtight on a scale of hours. That means it can hold individual gas molecules less than 120 picometers across. PICOMETERS. Even small viruses are hundreds of times larger. There is absolutely no way that a virus can go through an airtight condom. Unless the condom breaks or there is an obvious leak, there will be NO HIV transmission.

HSV (herpes) and HPV (warts) are transmitted primarily through skin to skin contact, and can infect areas not covered by a normal condom. Contact with skin infected by HPV or HSV can cause transmission. However that has nothing to do with condom failure, because condoms don't cover areas outside of the penis. Supposedly (I've never looked), there are special condoms with larger coverage that protect the surrounding areas to prevent HPV/HSV transmission.

If condoms were not effective at preventing the spread of STDs, including HIV, the entire world medical community would not be speaking with one voice on their effectiveness. Show me one reputable doctor or organization that claims that properly used condoms do not prevent the spread of HIV.

Author:  zmbcm1 [ Thu May 16, 2013 5:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Even MORE tips for better game! (34 to be exact)

Quote:
not that bad of a post but some of the stuff is pretty obvious like testosterone helping your game

overall I find this to be a lot of recycled stuff that about 10 other PUA forum posters seem to put up
If you have it all figured out maybe you should be teaching all of us how to get laid with your Paramount21 system then.

Author:  Jay (Majik) [ Thu May 16, 2013 3:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Even MORE tips for better game! (34 to be exact)

Quote:
Quote:

Condoms actually don't prevent STDs.

Most STD viruses can actually slip through the netting style design of a latex condom.

Lets just Nerf the world lol
You're putting people's health in danger by spreading misinformation.

The primary viruses of concern with sex are: Hepatitis, HIV, HPV, and HSV.
Hepatitis and HIV are transmitted through body fluids. As long as body fluids do not go around the barrier to infectable sites (such as foreskin, or the vagina), HIV and Hepatitis CANNOT be transmitted through intercourse.
I have worked with VERY nasty VERY small diatomic chemicals using latex gloves. Latex is completely impermeable to almost any molecule, including HF (which is small enough to go through your skin and dissolves your bone), even though it may be degraded by it with time. The only thing that can go through latex is certain organic compounds like methyl mercury and some industrial solvents. A latex condom is airtight on a scale of hours. That means it can hold individual gas molecules less than 120 picometers across. PICOMETERS. Even small viruses are hundreds of times larger. There is absolutely no way that a virus can go through an airtight condom. Unless the condom breaks or there is an obvious leak, there will be NO HIV transmission.

HSV (herpes) and HPV (warts) are transmitted primarily through skin to skin contact, and can infect areas not covered by a normal condom. Contact with skin infected by HPV or HSV can cause transmission. However that has nothing to do with condom failure, because condoms don't cover areas outside of the penis. Supposedly (I've never looked), there are special condoms with larger coverage that protect the surrounding areas to prevent HPV/HSV transmission.

If condoms were not effective at preventing the spread of STDs, including HIV, the entire world medical community would not be speaking with one voice on their effectiveness. Show me one reputable doctor or organization that claims that properly used condoms do not prevent the spread of HIV.
They reduce the risk of STDs... Not prevent them.

Condoms break..... Accidents happen....

All I'm saying is be careful who you stick your dick into...

Author:  Paramount21 [ Thu May 16, 2013 4:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Even MORE tips for better game! (34 to be exact)

Quote:
Quote:
not that bad of a post but some of the stuff is pretty obvious like testosterone helping your game

overall I find this to be a lot of recycled stuff that about 10 other PUA forum posters seem to put up
If you have it all figured out maybe you should be teaching all of us how to get laid with your Paramount21 system then.
I would call it something better than that but hey, didn't expect much creativity out of out of you anyways.

Author:  zmbcm1 [ Thu May 16, 2013 6:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Even MORE tips for better game! (34 to be exact)

Quote:

They reduce the risk of STDs... Not prevent them.

Condoms break..... Accidents happen....

All I'm saying is be careful who you stick your dick into...
I agree entirely with being careful who you sleep with. And I agree that condoms break. It's happened to me.. And it blows because buying STD tests and plan Bs adds up.
I disagreed with your original claim that viruses can percolate through condoms. As long as a condom doesn't break, the only common diseases that can be transmitted through intercourse are HPV/HSV

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