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Author:  Paramount21 [ Wed May 01, 2013 12:05 am ]
Post subject:  Just how bad is it after college?

I have read that college is the easiest time in life for a man to get laid (UH NOT TRUE IMO, maybe because I am a college transfer). Then again I have also read that college is heavily dependent on social circle game and cold approaches do not function as well. Problem is, I am so big on cold approaches and approaching random strangers (who are women).

There are so many good looking girls at the current university I have transferred to but I have pretty much accepted that I am not going to score with them since I am not involved with Greek Life (too late to be) and since I am a transfer. I have three or four more semesters left of college and honestly I cannot wait until I am out of here. Another issue (hate to bring race into it) for me is that I am a Brown guy at an SEC school and most good looking girls I run into are White.

Anyways after college I plan on going to a major city, what is going to make it harder? I just don't get why people say college is the easiest time for a man to get laid.

Author:  Rockets88 [ Wed May 01, 2013 3:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Just how bad is it after college?

College is like being in the ocean. You are free. If you want a clown fish, go find a clown fish. If you want a marlin, Go get a marlin. Life after college is more like a fish tank...

Major cities are a little different because they probably have tons of college girls and young crowd. So you should be ight.

Author:  AFCToTheMax [ Wed May 01, 2013 9:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Just how bad is it after college?

They say it because an average guy sucks at approaching random girls therefore is reliant on social circle game.
Shouldn't be the case with you however. Also you've got 4 semesters at your college. This means 2 years right ? I'm not sure about education at ur place. But 2 years is a shitton to build a social circle.
Me personally I got laid lots after college. Not a single lay at college.
But if you plan to spend 2 years worrying about all this then you will miss a lot of fun.

Author:  O_Atlas_O [ Wed May 01, 2013 9:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Just how bad is it after college?

All I go for is White women *And latinas* Yeah it sucks because you'll probably never get opened by them. I can't even tell you how many times I've been opened by black chicks, only for me to blow them off because Im just not into them whatsoever.

That said! You are the man, you go after what YOU want. Dont let other people (Who don't know anything about you or how awesome you are, yet!) dictate how you live your life. Who's really stopping you from getting a social circle? That's right, no one but you. If you want it, go out and get it. Don't worry about the how, just go out and try and do it. You'll find the only one that can make you feel foolish is yourself(Which is a dumb thing itself but it's how we work)

Author:  Paramount21 [ Wed May 01, 2013 10:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Just how bad is it after college?

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All I go for is White women *And latinas* Yeah it sucks because you'll probably never get opened by them. I can't even tell you how many times I've been opened by black chicks, only for me to blow them off because Im just not into them whatsoever.

That said! You are the man, you go after what YOU want. Dont let other people (Who don't know anything about you or how awesome you are, yet!) dictate how you live your life. Who's really stopping you from getting a social circle? That's right, no one but you. If you want it, go out and get it. Don't worry about the how, just go out and try and do it. You'll find the only one that can make you feel foolish is yourself(Which is a dumb thing itself but it's how we work)
were you mocking me or talking about yourself with the being opened by black girls part?

IF you were talking about yourself then hay, same thing here bro! I have it so insanely easy with Black women but I am just not sexually attracted to them or most asian girls. The Black girls I have liked were like 25 percent Black or something.

Yet good news does come, I have recently started to have more and more positive interactions with blondes. One even told me I was dressed nice and looked good, I was flattered!

Author:  O_Atlas_O [ Wed May 01, 2013 10:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Just how bad is it after college?

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All I go for is White women *And latinas* Yeah it sucks because you'll probably never get opened by them. I can't even tell you how many times I've been opened by black chicks, only for me to blow them off because Im just not into them whatsoever.

That said! You are the man, you go after what YOU want. Dont let other people (Who don't know anything about you or how awesome you are, yet!) dictate how you live your life. Who's really stopping you from getting a social circle? That's right, no one but you. If you want it, go out and get it. Don't worry about the how, just go out and try and do it. You'll find the only one that can make you feel foolish is yourself(Which is a dumb thing itself but it's how we work)
were you mocking me or talking about yourself with the being opened by black girls part?

IF you were talking about yourself then hay, same thing here bro! I have it so insanely easy with Black women but I am just not sexually attracted to them or most asian girls. The Black girls I have liked were like 25 percent Black or something.

Yet good news does come, I have recently started to have more and more positive interactions with blondes. One even told me I was dressed nice and looked good, I was flattered!
Haha yeah I was talking about myself. It gets so bad People assume my parents are white cause I distance myself from black people so much XD. We're pretty much the same when it comes to interest in women too lol. The Asian and Black females cry because they don't have guys like us!

But yeah the race thing is just something we have to deal with, and it's not a big deal once someone knows us. Just keep going out there and getting what you want regardless of the situation bro. If you want it, you deserve it :D

Author:  7000 [ Wed May 01, 2013 11:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Just how bad is it after college?

I've ignored the majority of your posts recently, paramount, but I can't help but break this one down, I'll try and keep it civil :wink:
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I have read that college is the easiest time in life for a man to get laid (UH NOT TRUE IMO, maybe because I am a college transfer).


How can you say it's not the easiest time in life for a man to get laid when you haven't experienced life after college? If you're struggling now, it's not suddenly going to get better (or necessarily worse) when you leave college, or at any particular time in your life. It will only get better or worse if you make it better or worse. Thinking that things will or might change in the future almost randomly is an excuse not to do anything about it now. Hard cold truth here, nothing falls into your lap easily, you have to make it happen.
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Then again I have also read that college is heavily dependent on social circle game and cold approaches do not function as well. Problem is, I am so big on cold approaches and approaching random strangers (who are women).
It can be about social game, but at the same time it is so easy to meet random college girls in bars and clubs that it doesn't need to be. Yeah, if you're living in student accommodation and you're in with the party crowd, then you're going to find it easier to attract chicks. I never was in with the party crowd so much. Truth be told, I found most of them to be douchebags. I had a fairly small group just within my block of about 15/20 people, plus a few extras off my course. But in clubs I just used basically normal club game. Just chat and dance with random girls. Luckily, with most university/college club nights being student-only club nights, it just makes club game easier. Firstly, you've got a hook to start a conversation if you're chatting in the smoking area or whatever (although asking what course she does etc. needs to be moved on from quickly, but it's a decent "ice breaker") and also because college girls tend to be freer than girls after college. It's probably the first time they're out away from their parents drinking, and they haven't got any responsibilities or family that they may have after college.
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There are so many good looking girls at the current university I have transferred to but I have pretty much accepted that I am not going to score with them since I am not involved with Greek Life (too late to be) and since I am a transfer.


Like I said above, this is just an excuse. If you really want to get into "Greek Life" (I've got no idea what this is by the way), then do it. How long will it take? 1) A couple of random conversations with people who can get you in, become their acquaintances - takes say 10 minutes per conversation. 2) Get invited to a party or something - may require a little bit of ground work, probably not, but let's say a couple of days of being active on social media with your new acquaintances or meeting them for drinks etc. 3) You're in with the crowd and can continue to build from there. So it will take a few days, maybe a couple of weeks, to get in with a new crowd. You're just making excuses to cover the fact that you are a bit worried about putting yourself out there. Grab your balls in one hand and just get on with it. As I said above, things don't just fall into your lap. The only reason you're not in with "Greek Life" already is that you didn't have the balls to get yourself involved in it in the first place. Now you're making the same excuses to stop you from getting involved in it now.
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I have three or four more semesters left of college and honestly I cannot wait until I am out of here. Another issue (hate to bring race into it) for me is that I am a Brown guy at an SEC school and most good looking girls I run into are White.
I've said all I have to about race to you in the past so I won't dwell on this. I will leave it just by re-iterating what I've said above. Excuses. Things don't just happen. You have to make the improvements.
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Anyways after college I plan on going to a major city, what is going to make it harder? I just don't get why people say college is the easiest time for a man to get laid.
In practice, there doesn't have to be any difference. The only thing is that at college you've got a huge selection of decent-to-hot girls, all away from their families for the first time (so being a bit wild), all perhaps feeling a bit peer pressured into being wild, and there are plenty of club nights, social activities etc to meet all these girls at, all at the tip of your fingers. When you go out into the real world, people go out less, it's harder to meet people, there are less girls easily accessible to you, more girls start to have work responsibilities that stop them from being as social/wild as they are at college, they get older and start to have boyfriends, families etc. which means there are less single girls around. Etc. etc.

All of these things can be easily got around; but there isn't such an easy abundance in the real world as there is in cities etc. But that doesn't mean it needs to be hard in a city; it can still be extremely easy - there are still plenty of hot girls out there.

But like I said, don't even focus on after college. Three or four semesters? That's what, a year or so still to go?! Transfer student or not, just stop making excuses and get on with it. That's the only way you're going to succeed. I'm trying not to be harsh here, I don't want this to turn into another thread just slagging you off, but really you need to face reality. You're constantly making excuses to cover up for your own insecurities. Let's not even go down the race route (even though that is the most prominent example); let's look at this semester/greek life thing. Why is it too late to get involved in it? Plenty of time, you're just afraid of making the contacts you would need to make to get into it. And if for some reason you can't, then make a social group some other way, you can still have a party lifestyle without being in a particular social circle, just get into another one. But again, you're too afraid to do that and so are making up excuses to justify your lack of action.

Lack of action and excuses will get you nowhere. Just man up and get it done!

Author:  Paramount21 [ Thu May 02, 2013 1:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Just how bad is it after college?

too late to get involved in greek life because they don't let you rush or initiate you in when you are an upperclassman

Author:  Mr. Assertive [ Thu May 02, 2013 3:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Just how bad is it after college?

Paramount, you cry too much.



Dean A.

Author:  AFCToTheMax [ Thu May 02, 2013 8:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Just how bad is it after college?

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Paramount, you cry too much.



Dean A.
This. He's a lot worse than my sister. I can't help but to think that he is a troll.

Author:  7000 [ Thu May 02, 2013 10:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Just how bad is it after college?

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too late to get involved in greek life because they don't let you rush or initiate you in when you are an upperclassman
So that stops you building up your social circle with other people how?

(And do they actually not let you in if you're not a freshman, or is it just that you can't be bothered to put in the work to get in? - I don't know, I went to uni in the UK and here you could join societies at any point. But if you can only join as a fresher, then even so; how does it stop you from widening your social circle in other ways?)

You've always got an answer which tries to justify your lack of action (not just in this thread, but every thread you've ever participated in). People give you help and advice and you come up with another answer which gives yet another excuse for not taking action and sorting out your problems. Ultimately, the only way your problems will be solved is if you stop thinking of excuses and stop trying to justify why you should sit around doing nothing, and instead actually go out and make things better for yourself.

Author:  Prophet'sOracle [ Thu May 02, 2013 12:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just how bad is it after college?

After college will be as bad as it is for you now. Which in your case I'd say it's pretty bad.

Author:  Paramount21 [ Fri May 03, 2013 1:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Just how bad is it after college?

It doesn't make sense for a guy in the UK to give college advice to me about college life in the US when things are so different here. Now I won't lie, the rest of your post was good and you have done a better job than most of these guys in helping but I want a more vast and diverse answer as to how a guy who has graduated college can make the best of his time in terms of pickup and making friends.

Author:  7000 [ Fri May 03, 2013 11:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Just how bad is it after college?

How you get a good social life in a US college is virtually exactly the same as getting a good social life in UK universities. Yet again you're making up excuses to get away from the action you need to take ("oh he's in the UK so I don't need to act upon his advice", instead of actually just getting on with it).

You want advice for a guy who has already graduated college? I would say the majority of posters on this forum are not in college. You use the same pick up techniques as anyone else.

The point about college is that it is so easy to improve your social circle, because everything is at your fingertips; you've got sports clubs, college parties, lots of people milling around campus all with at least one thing in common (the college you're at), you've got different classes where you can meet people easy etc. etc. As such, a lot of "gaming" revolves around social status because it is the norm to get involved in social things; if you're not involved, then you come across as the weirdo loner kid.

Outside of college though, that is not the case. You haven't got the social opportunities anywhere near as much, so "social game" doesn't really matter too much. It's far more about how you interact one on one with the girl. That's the only difference really.

So to answer your question;

You have to put yourself out there more after college. You have to find good club nights, find good bars, start classes, get invited to your friends' parties, that sort of thing. Just put more effort in to find social activities.

In terms of making friends and pick up, it's no different really. You make friends because of the connections you make with people - the only difference between in college and not-in college is that you find people in different ways. So instead of making a connection with a class mate, you may have to make a connection with someone you meet in the street, or in an evening class or something like that.

The same for pick up; the techniques are the same, but instead of chatting a girl up who is on your course, or in your social group, or on your sports team or in the library etc. you have to chat up girls in different places, such as clubs, bars, in the street, etc.

So, like I mentioned above, it's all just about putting yourself out there. College is easy for social life as you've got lots and lots of opportunities to get involved in stuff easily. Outside of college it is slightly harder to find tihngs to do, but that's all up to you to go out and find them. Like I said above, just start classes, go to clubs, parties etc.

Author:  Warped Mindless [ Fri May 03, 2013 3:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just how bad is it after college?

Paramount, right here on the front page, like three topics down from this one, you made a thread where you tell people not to use their race as an excuse. What did you just do in the very first post of this thread?

jesus...this guy...

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