Absolutely 100% agree but you are missing part of it..... The reason direct works is because of your self-confidence and high self-esteem, just like the reason every other pick up technique, it works because of your confidence in that technique (the value you assign it that it will work with practice). People think Mystery method, gambler, or whatever other technique is what gives them the special powers to get the girl, it's 100% not the technique sure some of them have their value but it isn't your bull shit magic trick that is attractive, it's your confidence, it's not your "kino" it's your confidence during your kino.

It's not a bad thing to openly admit interest as long as you don't put off a needy vibe. Vulnerability is an awesome thing to have when it comes to courtship (regardless of what others may think). Think about all the submissive signals sent throughout courtship.

Women love a man that desires her sexually but hate a guy that needs her around, irony right? Don't want to be treated like a piece of meat but want to be desired as one. It turns them on, it's why cieran's shock and awe is so powerful.

Yesterday there was a woman who I was chatting with, there is attraction on both sides, I flirt with her a bit when she comes into my work. I was very direct with her(not sexually since I was at work), at some point I told her confidently and directly "well I have a huge crush on you, what do you want?" I made eye contact smiled and she stepped to me, almost kissed her right then (at work).

Her Response: "Stop it your going to make me blush."

Now once upon a time when I was young and dumb I told a woman this EXACT line. While there was a nervous energy coming from me, a scared, "oh my god, what's she's gonna say?" energy. This girl looked at me like I was a creepy douche bag because it was coming from a needy behavior.

It's not what you say it's how you say it (of course being aware of the woman you are interacting with).... I can say the craziest shit to a lot of girls and they love it, the me of history not so much... Confidence is the key to everything not tactics, direct is my favorite type of game now-a-days.

Peace and Love,

Vic

I disagree.

Confidence is pleasant and yes that is attractive, but if you tell a girl you like her i don't think its going to work often. In fact, I dated a girl once and she hated when I complimented her, but the thing is HB her this all the time. Most of the Ladies Men I know were confident and that made it pleasant to be around them but they also had a quality that kind of just screamed "I am cool." It was a certain style. Swagger.

Its not all confidence guys. That's fools gold. Its confidence applied properly.

The purpose of the mystery method opener was to use an opinion to disarm people and in a way turn the tables by allowing you to evaluate the opinion of the girl. She now starts thinking is this right, does that sound right. She wants your approval. The negs knocks the hb off her pedestal and can make you seem like you have a lot of value. Your stories convey value and elicit pleasant emotions. Qualifying tells the girl you may be interested. At some point you seem so cool that the girl now wants you. Its a strategy.

Two features that are held in the top 5 of every poll on what a man's most attractive features(by women) are Confidence and sense of humor. With that and some escalation skills that is all you need to pick up women, you won't pick up every woman but you will pick up a much higher percentage than the average joe.

I use to agree with you, after a lot more experience I completely disagree. I use to be all about indirect and it has it's place when you need to build attraction and there is no initial attraction.... The overall goal should be to be a responsive man(respond at her response curve which is generally faster than you realize) but keep in mind cieran's shock and awe is one of the most powerful techniques you'll ever come across and all you need is self-confidence to go with it. It works with like 70% of available women as long as you know how to apply it properly, too many guys think the holy grail is taking the long route... that is bull shit.

Direct is best when you know how to use it.

In a relationship I have a feeling you don't know how to compliment a woman in the manner we are discussing.

What kind of of compliments were you granting her?

How were you saying these compliments?

Did you do them during the proper time period?

For instance if I was dating a woman I might walk up to her and say "damn doll, you are so sexy, you just look delicious, I can't wait to make you cum tonight. I'm going to make you come so much.... You are going to cum so hard for me."

Now if you are saying the compliments from a needy standpoint things change, they lose value. If you need help learning to grant a good compliment I can help with that. The key to a good compliment isn't the statement but the authenticity and WHY behind it....

"Damn you look good doll, that dress makes you look so damn sexy. I can't wait to eat you up."

Where the compliments come from matters WAY more than the compliment when it comes to it being a good compliment. Most men have NO CLUE how to give a good compliment, they think things like "you look cute", "your beautiful", or "pretty eyes" are compliments, they aren't good compliments they are shitty compliments that lack vulnerability a necessary asset when it comes actually building something with a woman.

You aren't coming from the high value we are talking about.... You don't need to knock any woman off a pedestal and you need to stop putting her on one there is a difference.

Look at it from a charisma standpoint, charisma is about you raising people up to your level, the only way this can happen is if you already up.

If a woman is bitchy and stuck up I simply don't deal with her, why the fuck should I? If I have to insult a woman to fuck her I want NO part of her.

Playful negs are fine but negs to knock some woman off her pedestal are not effective.

The woman I did that to was a very sexy woman that gets a lot of positive attention. It's not as if she hasn't heard your gorgeous before, or any of that, or I like you, it simply was how I said it.

How you say it matters far more than what you say, I learned that when I began studying body language. It isn't like this is news.

I can sum it up with this statement:

Women Love being desired but hate being needed.

Don't compliment a woman because you need something out of it, make it simply something you do because you want to not because you want to impress her. It's not about that.

Just my thoughts... on your rebuttal (I have a feeling you are a bit inexperienced).

Peace and Love,

Vic

Your response is very defensive and personal. ("I'm inexperienced", "I need help complimenting"). You make the posts about me and not about the validity of my points. I noticed some of your other posts. You need to work on respect because you come off as condescending. However, I don't know you personally and you don't know me. Keep my credibility out of your mouth.

Confidence and a sense of humor is all you need to attract a girl is very vague. That is very vague advice. I'm not all about indirect or direct. I am about strategy. And the Mystery Method is a good strategy. With a good strategy you should attract everyone, girls that are available and girls with boyfriends.

A neg isn't an insult, but a neg brings a stuck up girl back to reality. You do it because she's hot...

I see no difference between being needed and desired besides semantics. Desiring a girl is not going to make her crazy about you.

You compliment to make someone feel good and by making them feel good they like you.

I disagree.

Confidence is pleasant and yes that is attractive, but if you tell a girl you like her i don't think its going to work often. In fact, I dated a girl once and she hated when I complimented her, but the thing is HB her this all the time. Most of the Ladies Men I know were confident and that made it pleasant to be around them but they also had a quality that kind of just screamed "I am cool." It was a certain style. Swagger.

Its not all confidence guys. That's fools gold. Its confidence applied properly.

The purpose of the mystery method opener was to use an opinion to disarm people and in a way turn the tables by allowing you to evaluate the opinion of the girl. She now starts thinking is this right, does that sound right. She wants your approval. The negs knocks the hb off her pedestal and can make you seem like you have a lot of value. Your stories convey value and elicit pleasant emotions. Qualifying tells the girl you may be interested. At some point you seem so cool that the girl now wants you. Its a strategy.

I think being direct risks getting dissed. Now maybe you don't care about that, but a lot of guys have egos and they just don't like that. On the other hand I know a lot of guys like the mainly quality of being direct and the chase. It's kind of all about why you are doing this. Some guys just want a little more confidence with girls.

When I was a lot younger I was heart broken. About 8 years ago. I hated it do much. I could not understand wanting someone so bad, feeling so strongly for them and then it meaning nothing. I mean wanting someone more than little kids want to wake up in the morning and open their gifts on Christmas eve. I hated it so much. I was lost and I did not know what to do. I felt broken, empty and hollow. I didn't want to work, I didn't want to go to school, I didn't want to dress up, I didn't want to work out. I was hopeless. So, I read The Game. I wanted to never feel that way again. I wanted to find someone beautiful and then seduce them and then be desperately in love with them. I mean needing them. And I wanted them to need me. I wanted to make passionate love to them 5 times a day. This has never happen.

It's called a hopeless romantic for a reason. I admit I personally don't like putting myself out there directly. It's always the girls that value you that are in love with you.

A girl has to earn your love. I don't know how you do that if you are being direct. It is giving the person the job before the interview.