There is no game. . . There is no game. Let that marinate.

The more I think about it the more I feel there is no game. I dress up and girls like that. I get a haircut and girls like that. I build my muscles and girls like that. I get money and nice things and girls like that. I accomplish things and attain power and girls like that. BUT, where is the game? Being attractive, having status, and dressing nice is not game.

Confidence is not game. Approaching a girl and telling her she has nice titties may be ballsy but that is not game.

Where is the game? where is the game? is it telling good stories? Is it a certain social savvy? WHat is it? What is it?

I been picking up for years now and most of the things that I see attracting girls I was doing before I got in the game. Sometimes I wonder if all that changed was my confidence.

game is short for a game plan, confidence is being certain, competence and confidence go hand in hand

having and plan of action and knowing what you are doing without a doubt, is being confident and having ''game''

it is knowing what to do and how to do it, being good looking walking into a bar with social anxiety and absolutely no idea how to even have a simple conversation with someone isn't going to get you laid no matter how good looking you are, even the best looking guys will have barley any consistency with girls picking them up, and from the options they do get from the ''do nothing'' game plan are likely to be less then appealing, girls get male options more easily presented to them then the other way around because that is the traditional social dynamic in most places, why would a girl go approach guys and carry the interaction when she doesn't have to in order to have a successful dating life?

a good looking guy who is shy and has no idea what to do, is just as fucked in the dating pool as a deformed smelly guy with autism going out every week socializing, at least the autistic guy has a better chance meeting new girls regularily, meet 0 girls = sleep with 0 girls and improving your appearance is all just part of having a stronger plan of attack, why would you not do everything in your power to be more attractive if your goal is to attract more women and higher quality women?

it's all just your game plan, if you've been picking up girls for years as you say, chances are you already have a long list of concious/sub-concious things you repeat over and over, habits that are engrained into you, things that are just ''common sense'' to you, only thing is, common sense isn't so common to everyone and this is your ''game'' that you have developed through experiences you have had, you can improve upon your regular habits in little bits and pieces tweaking up the plan for more success here and there and it will make a difference, or you can keep repeating the exact same process over and over for yourself and see the same results, what ever works for you, it's your game plan, and having a game will put you leaps and bounds above guys that have no game, and passively sit by and hope some victoria secret model will just approach them one day begging them to go home with her, even with really good looks, a proactive average guy that invests a lot of time into dating and actively seeks out women, will get laid more often then a good looking guy who sits in his basement and does nothing

it's not the ''game'' that ''attracts'' the girls, it's you, but it's your game that lands the girls, your experience and know how of what to do in XYZ situation to get to point sex, when to jump ship, when to ride the wave, remembering that doing XYZ is a nono and the last few times got you into a verbal arguement, catching onto habits and patterns you exibit that are socially unattractive to work on them to find more social aquity, the more you improve anything you can, the better your plan and the more confidence you have in your plan, the more successful you will be at executing it with efficency and success, better plan, better execution of plan, better dating life

No one can ever really say what precisely attracts a girl to you. Thats the problem. They its alpha, they say its confidence, they say its a sense of humor, they say its looks, they say its fashion, they say its status, they say its money, they say its power, they say alot of things.

A lot of things are correlated with a attraction, but no one ever tells you what will directly cause attraction.

There is a lot of randomness that i don't like. And when you attract a girl Its not like you ever figure out exactly what attracted the girl either. Its kinda like present all these variables then she might or she might not like you.

For instance: I approach like 10 girls this weekend. I got two numbers. Three I never got to finish the conversation. 1 i just ejected because I didn't like her attitude when I said hello. 2 seemed disinteresed. 1 was just plain rude.

This all seems just to random for me. I don't like that. Particularly, if I was interested in one of these girls, like if I had a crush on a girl. I would want to know something that would work. It seems like to much luck.

It seems like its not game its seems like its like. It seems like you "get lucky." I don't like it because I feel powerless to some extent. Maybe this is too demanding, but if someone can't say directly what will cause a girl to be attracted to you I don't think there is any game.

There is a lot of randomness that i don't like. And when you attract a girl Its not like you ever figure out exactly what attracted the girl either. Its kinda like present all these variables then she might or she might not like you.

For instance: I approach like 10 girls this weekend. I got two numbers. Three I never got to finish the conversation. 1 i just ejected because I didn't like her attitude when I said hello. 2 seemed disinteresed. 1 was just plain rude.

This all seems just to random for me. I don't like that. Particularly, if I was interested in one of these girls, like if I had a crush on a girl. I would want to know something that would work. It seems like to much luck.

It seems like its not game its seems like its like. It seems like you "get lucky." I don't like it because I feel powerless to some extent. Maybe this is too demanding, but if someone can't say directly what will cause a girl to be attracted to you I don't think there is any game.

You think approaching girls and telling her nice titties is confidence? That is just classless stupidity.... Everyone on the forum can tell you that. That isn't even a compliment, it's a straight up insult to most women.

Self-Confidence is the foundation of Natural Game but it is but a part of it, it isn't game.

It's not about Money, Power, Looks, it's about the status your body language, energy, and aura represents. It's why my buddies who had no car, a shit job, and average looks could slay women while my "hot friends" struggled with women.

Courtship is a game, it's a series of behaviors that you respond to at the proper rate while sending the proper signals.

Attracting women is but a step in the process of actually getting women. A woman can be attracted for one of several reasons: personality, sense of humor, self confidence, looks, money, remind her of her hs sweetheart, etc. Any number of reasons.

The key to women is sexual escalation and tension not just attracting women, or the hot guy would get more ass than a toilet seat, yet many great looking guys end up here on the forum and some of the best pick up artists are average looking guys with a sense of style and individuality.

I feel the most consistent way to get laid are three element: Attraction, Connection, and Sexual tension/escalation. The sexual part being the most necessary element, many guys are attractive and just "get lucky" many guys build rapport and "get lucky" or get friend zoned(a common issue around here), but sexual tension is what works the most consistently because it sets the tone and escalates the situation.

Game is what I consider courtship but that is just my perspective, I have heard and can see how many would say there is no such thing as game, including a member of this forum I respect a lot. Their point makes sense, but it is just my perspective because I've noticed it seems like you have to run a tight rope sometimes.

Peace and Love,

Vic

No one can ever really say what precisely attracts a girl to you. Thats the problem. They its alpha, they say its confidence, they say its a sense of humor, they say its looks, they say its fashion, they say its status, they say its money, they say its power, they say alot of things.

A lot of things are correlated with a attraction, but no one ever tells you what will directly cause attraction.