Amen to that! Courtship kills attraction and/or delay sex.... Society moving in the right direction...Fuck courtship!

Courtship from a scientific stand point has only changed in the process, courting a woman(looking for a relationship) is different to me than courtship(your trip to sex is how I see it, we all fail a lot on our way there). Of course that is how I read it described by biologists, anthropologist, and zoologist.

Dating and fucking are now separate.

Sex is good but you know for a fact that sex that isn't fulfilling is absolutely unsatisfactory, I mean banging a girl is all fine and dandy but if it isn't going to be passion fun filled sex I find no point to it. SNLs are over rated, the holy grail of pua is imo the least satisfactory part. I'd rather have a great conversation with a woman than shitty sex with her, of course I don't feel sex is always worth it these days. I'd rather not have sex, than have sex with a shitty lay.

I actually find it kind of sad that a lot of pua refuses to allow you to be yourself (though many of us certainly advertise self-improvement as an essential gate to success with women) and shoots to avoid imo the best part of hooking up which is getting to know a woman. Most women can't give a good blow job or fuck well, so why on earth should I just take value from the process? However when she is connected with you, fully aroused, and attracted to you, the sex regardless of whether she is normally a good lay gets that much better. There is more reciprocation, more passion, more just general desire please the other person.

SNLs are usually sloppy shitty nights of sex, not enough sexual tension is built to have an all nighter most of the time. Lets face it good sex involves lots of sexual tension which is quite limited if you've known each other for 60 minutes to a couple hours

Peace and Love,

Vic

So what is the problem with the traditional dinner, movie, miniature golf, and all that crap that you see on live dating shows like "millionaire match maker", The problem i see with the traditional dating is that it has a high % to one of these 2 outcomes specially for newer/intermediate guys, you will be put into the possible bf application stack, so you will get screen harder, and your flaws will be looked at or maximize... Now let say you are amazing and you get through her screening, then sex may be delay(since now you will be seen as a bf instead of lover, so she may want you to see her as girlfriend material that she is not that easy, the women 3 date rule crap), plus it is a bad frame you are paying for dates so you are seen as a provider. Anyways the % of success doing the traditional dating in my opinion lower than if you do what i suggest which i will call the lover dates:

1.- Any excuse to be at your house or her house(renting a movie, dinner at your house, video games,massage etc...)
2.- walk by the beach(night preferably)
3.- Park date (secluded night time)
4.- dancing at a club(easy to escalate)
5.- drinks at a bar( alcohol may be your friend to make her relax)
6.- swingclub, sex shop, sex expo, strip club.(advance level)


The goal of 2 to 6 is to go back home or to a motel and have sex with the exception of the swingclub(cause you fuck them in the swinclub).