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I've done somethinking about this concept. Trying too hard makes you look worthless and teasing leaves a girl wanting more...

I was at the club this weekend with friends and we were just talking. About three of us guys and these girls kept dancing in front of us. In fact, at some point one girl just bent her ass over and shook it like a stripper. lol They were desperate for attention....and we weren't giving it and the less we gave the harder they tried.

So, i thought about this some more. When you neg girls, when you give girls little atttention, when you ignore them they want more. I think that girls like assholes because they want more, more respect.

Think about this if you were thirsty and wanted water and you only got like a drop you would want more or if you had some cake, but only like a small piece and it was really good...you would want some more and try to get some. ANd the longer you had to wait the more frustrated you would get, the more you want it... like a kid on christmas eve. However, if someone gave you a gallon of water or a whole damn cake...there would be no reason to come back. This is why less gives you more. The less you give the harder girls try and the more a girl tries the more she values you.

I think a lot of nice guys are so afraid of being disliked that they overcompensate. They are too nice and it makes them look worhtless and you completely satisfy girls. If kids onpen their gifts on Xmas eve they may not even care about waking up the next morning. Think about it.

Being nice is not wrong and can be very effective, but being valuable, teasing, and the fear of loss are too.

My mentality throughout my life has been if someone disrespects prove that I deserve, but this can be terrible for girls because the harders you try the worst you look. You look like you have no value, you give your all so it does not leave someone wanting more, and the person is not afraid of lossing you. Now take all those things plus nicess and girls will go crazy over you.

Guys let me know what you think of this.

Author:	AudacityOfHope [ Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:06 am ]
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I've done somethinking about this concept. Trying too hard makes you look worthless and teasing leaves a girl wanting more... I was at the club this weekend with friends and we were just talking. About three of us guys and these girls kept dancing in front of us. In fact, at some point one girl just bent her ass over and shook it like a stripper. lol They were desperate for attention....and we weren't giving it and the less we gave the harder they tried. So, i thought about this some more. When you neg girls, when you give girls little atttention, when you ignore them they want more. I think that girls like assholes because they want more, more respect. Think about this if you were thirsty and wanted water and you only got like a drop you would want more or if you had some cake, but only like a small piece and it was really good...you would want some more and try to get some. ANd the longer you had to wait the more frustrated you would get, the more you want it... like a kid on christmas eve. However, if someone gave you a gallon of water or a whole damn cake...there would be no reason to come back. This is why less gives you more. The less you give the harder girls try and the more a girl tries the more she values you. I think a lot of nice guys are so afraid of being disliked that they overcompensate. They are too nice and it makes them look worhtless and you completely satisfy girls. If kids onpen their gifts on Xmas eve they may not even care about waking up the next morning. Think about it. Being nice is not wrong and can be very effective, but being valuable, teasing, and the fear of loss are too. My mentality throughout my life has been if someone disrespects prove that I deserve, but this can be terrible for girls because the harders you try the worst you look. You look like you have no value, you give your all so it does not leave someone wanting more, and the person is not afraid of lossing you. Now take all those things plus nicess and girls will go crazy over you. Guys let me know what you think of this.

Author:	AudacityOfHope [ Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:19 am ]
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One more thing from this weekend. There was a door girl at the club and she was new. I asked her a question and she had no idea how to answer it. She seemed visibly insecure and kept talking a lot. I thought it was a great opportunity to game her (but my friend did not see it) because she would keep trying to talk to...prove herself. I had already pulled a girl by that time. It just made me wonder about the importance of the opinion openers....they put the girl on the hot seat. I have to think about this some more. Getting a girl to prover herself can be very effective. However, I remember one time meeting a very attractive girl...teasing her by text then not responding to her text for a few moments. She got upset and that was that. So less is more in theory, but you got to understand the situations.

Author:	AFC AzA [ Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:31 am ]
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how to give less if I am direct/natural ? I'm talking to her because I found out shes sexually attractive I'm talking to her because she's cool I think I just cant fake it. if the girl I'm talking is not that attractive then I will automatically give less emotion or whatever. but if I liked her its really hard to fake and give less isn't it ? I think its just for indirect. (MM or whatever)

Author:	AudacityOfHope [ Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:52 am ]
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Honestly, I think its just self-control and habit. If I see a girl I like why do I tell her I like her instead of teasing her...habit. Why do you go to the bathroom when you have to pee instead of peeing in your pants? habit. WHy do you run instead of fighting harder when you are afraid? Its not how you feel, its how you react to it and that comes from habit and training. Conditioning. Social Conditioning. That's what I think. Girls are often less secure than guys because they get taught from an early age that they don't have to deal with their feelings. Girls get affection guys get told to suck it up. So often they can't deal with the pressure of doubt, the pressure of getting no attention and being ignored, the pressure of waiting, the fear of loss, the pressure of ridicule. See everyone has insecurities...negative feelings but everyone can't deal with them and respond appropriately and intelligently.

Author:	Matrixxx [ Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:36 am ]
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Quote: I've done somethinking about this concept. Trying too hard makes you look worthless and teasing leaves a girl wanting more... I was at the club this weekend with friends and we were just talking. About three of us guys and these girls kept dancing in front of us. In fact, at some point one girl just bent her ass over and shook it like a stripper. lol They were desperate for attention....and we weren't giving it and the less we gave the harder they tried. So, i thought about this some more. When you neg girls, when you give girls little atttention, when you ignore them they want more. I think that girls like assholes because they want more, more respect. Think about this if you were thirsty and wanted water and you only got like a drop you would want more or if you had some cake, but only like a small piece and it was really good...you would want some more and try to get some. ANd the longer you had to wait the more frustrated you would get, the more you want it... like a kid on christmas eve. However, if someone gave you a gallon of water or a whole damn cake...there would be no reason to come back. This is why less gives you more. The less you give the harder girls try and the more a girl tries the more she values you. I think a lot of nice guys are so afraid of being disliked that they overcompensate. They are too nice and it makes them look worhtless and you completely satisfy girls. If kids onpen their gifts on Xmas eve they may not even care about waking up the next morning. Think about it. Being nice is not wrong and can be very effective, but being valuable, teasing, and the fear of loss are too. My mentality throughout my life has been if someone disrespects prove that I deserve, but this can be terrible for girls because the harders you try the worst you look. You look like you have no value, you give your all so it does not leave someone wanting more, and the person is not afraid of lossing you. Now take all those things plus nicess and girls will go crazy over you. Guys let me know what you think of this. A real man can be nice one moment, and be a killer the next. it depends on the situation. I just dont care for women. I am the ruler of the universe. "nice guys" is the wrong term I think, and that word has been totally misused. I call them "weak guys". Deep down they want sex, but dont have the balls to make a move. so they always remain in a zone of having no passion. woman dont want to see, they want to feel. You have to show them something...anything. A man should have no shame infront of a woman. Show them you want them, then let it be. if she likes you she will respond. This cat and mouse games that nice guys play with compliments left and right is not what a real man would do.

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Author:	The Doctor [ Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:42 am ]
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Less is more even with direct game. In direct game the analogy would be more like, this is the best cake ever, you want some don't you? Here have a little piece. Now how less becomes more with direct game is not trying to hard, your direct but you don't really care that much, yeah she's cute, you'd like to get some... but it's no big deal if you don't, if for some ridiculous reason she isn't attracted to you, then whatever babe... you have any idea how many women ARE? Next!

Author:	AudacityOfHope [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:17 am ]
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I think being direct is all about being dominant and aggressive. Turning a woman on with your drive.

Author:	puaninja [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:17 pm ]
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You have to use this as part of push/pull. It's active disinterest. You pretend like you don't really care that much about what the girl is doing. Then she's like "Hey, look at me." Then you give her a bunch of attention and make her feel like a princess to raise her self-esteem. Once she's flying high, you throw her hand down or something, then go talk to your buddy. Now she a little hurt, questioning her value, and goes back to seeking your approval again. The key is to determine/calibrate whether she needs to be given attention, or have attention taken away from her.

Author:	AudacityOfHope [ Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:28 am ]
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You can't really care too much for women because if you do they'll exploit it. Its kinda like two people cutting a deal. If you show weakness the other person will push until you got nothing. Its very counter-intutivie, especially since when you like someone you want to be nice to them, but maybe there was some wisdom in telling girls they had "cooties" when we were younger... Maybe being direct is all about demonstrating value and strength then letting the girl know, take it or leave it. I do know if you try to hard you will completely disrespect yourself and women don't care. Some will relish in laughing at you. They will get an ego boost from it.

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