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| Author: | IwantEasyLove [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Could Desperation be Attractive? |
I was talking to this guy and he was having some issues. Mostly he was frustrated. Desperate for sex, but didnt know what do do. I told him the first thing he needed to do was get rid of his desperation, but he vehemently admitted he was Desperate. "I am desperate" lol...and was like "what's wrong with that?" I thought about it was like well desperation makes you look bad, conveys low value, its a lack of self-control, and it can be exploited. I tried to think of a positive that desperation may convey, who knows maybe passion...I'm still trying to think of a way that it may be a plus. I wonder what would happen if a guy admitted this to a girl that he was desperate because if you can't get rid of that emotion or dimnish it some....its really impossible to hide. Its like a depressed man trying portray happiness or a man in a rage trying to convey calmness. |
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| Author: | puaninja [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:51 pm ] |
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The best you could do with it is use it to get the girl to pitty you, since girl's are very empathetic. But you'd still have to spin it toward being a helpless victim, rather than just being a self-loathing, brooding loser. Or maybe go the hopeless romantic route, desperately looking for true love and affection. If it's just low-self esteem you are conveying, I don't think it's going to get you very far with women. |
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| Author: | Deadeyexx [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:53 pm ] |
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Tell him to spin it as direct honesty. That he's a guy who doesn't play games and goes for what he wants. He must truly believe it or else the slightest backlash will throw him off track. The abundance mentality is something you gain AFTER getting good at game. Every newbie is desperate. It's purely delusional to say you aren't when you're asking for advice and reading pick-up material daily. |
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| Author: | Br3ezy [ Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:17 pm ] |
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Quote: Tell him to spin it as direct honesty. That he's a guy who doesn't play games and goes for what he wants. He must truly believe it or else the slightest backlash will throw him off track.
Ya the no experience part is really hard to pull off as it requires a high level of discipline state of mind
The abundance mentality is something you gain AFTER getting good at game. Every newbie is desperate. It's purely delusional to say you aren't when you're asking for advice and reading pick-up material daily. |
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| Author: | IwantEasyLove [ Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:09 am ] |
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My first instinct is showing someone you just met that you feel that strongly about them will scare them away. My second instinct is if you are desperate is that it immediately dimnishes your value. if no one else wants you then are you any good? |
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| Author: | Ziffer [ Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:02 am ] |
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If he is Desperate for sex, he should just admit to the girl that he wants to have sex. Not from the needy stand point, but from the fact that he really enjoys sex. Also how he enjoys giving girls pleasure. I am not sure if he is desperate for sex for some sort of validation or something, or if he truly enjoys sex. If he does enjoy sex enough to make him desperate then it will work. I also suggest he should just not masturbate until he gets laid his motivation will sky rocket lol. From my experiences. |
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| Author: | machiavillain [ Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:13 am ] |
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If his weakness is desperation, then make it his strength. Back to basics, gentlemen. There's nothing wrong with being desperate. The problem is WHAT he's desperate about. He's viewing it as being desperate for sex. Try and make him more positiveness and get him out of the mentality frame of "I need it, but can't..." He's beginning to cock block himself. Assuming his inner game is well established, remind him that he should be desperate to improve himself. Kind of back to square one so he can be comfortable in his own skin. Crash and Burn so he gets rid of all those fears that because he feels desperate, he won't be able to get laid. We were all desperate when we started out. It wasn't really until I changed the way I viewed myself that "game" drastically improves. At least from my own personal experience. |
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| Author: | IwantEasyLove [ Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:06 pm ] |
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I just think desperation allows you to be exploited. It puts you in a compromising situation because you care too much about one girl. So you take shit... I think you have to work on your inner game first in this situation. |
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| Author: | xZEROx [ Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:40 pm ] |
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if you are truly desperate, you may as well just be blunt and honest about it, trying to hide it would probably come off weird, then again maybe coming of weird is better than desperation? |
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| Author: | FlexBrah [ Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:01 am ] |
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No. |
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| Author: | The Dice [ Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:29 pm ] |
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I don't know how one could use desperation in a set or when out sarging, but for what it's worth, desperation is a REALLY strong emotion, and can lead to taking steps you normally wouldn't have taken. I've been quite desperate myself, and it was the best thing that could've happened to me. It was what made me starting to read up on game in general and it's improved my life greatly. My best advice for this guy is to use that desperation to work on himself, because that's what'll get him laid. |
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| Author: | NikAFC [ Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:47 pm ] |
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I was trying to help my buddy to be good at game recently and whatever I thought of doing wouldn't work. Now he is a very good looking guy with a decent job, own place, goes to the gym regularly and his lifestyle is attractive - has loads of hobbies including photography. He is good with girls and game but just couldn't close for an year now. I was thinking back in my last year of game and all my lays and I came up with the conclusion that if you want to be good at this and get the girls you want you HAVE to be desparate. If you have no results with the girls so far in order to achieve some you need to sacrifice a part of your life, soul and invest in game. In other words be desperate, go out a lot and try anything to get the results you want. So yeah I told that to my friend and now when we're sarging i see the results on demand ;] |
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| Author: | Rockets88 [ Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:23 am ] |
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Desperate no... Persistent yes! |
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| Author: | Sevendays [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:36 am ] |
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He cure for desperation is to stop thinking about what you want in the future and enjoy the present moment, have fun in the moment with the people of this moment, and if later the opportunity to close arises you take it, but always in the moment. |
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| Author: | User13247 [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:49 pm ] |
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Do desperate women turn you on? I think you have your answer there. |
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