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Author:  skills360 [ Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Skills on being humble...

As you know i am all about being attractive, One quality that will make a person very attractive, it is being humble, no fake humble real humble(does not mean you can not disagree and discuss bluntly). Since i started this forum and join the community i have notice the lack of humility, which i kind of get, since most of the methods teach you to be this alpha wanna be. 60 years of challenge talks about it, but does not elaborate much in the importance of being humble. Being humble is extremely attractive. A lot of the advance guys in here and even most "gurus" out there, lack humility. I can not stress the importance of being humble, as a leader, in a relationship, in social interactions and in business. It is one of the most important qualities of a seducer. Unfortunately, specially in this forum most people lack it. One guru that display a lot of humility for what i have seen is "Adam Lyons". Anyways here is on the importance of being humble from wickyhow i think:

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In reality there is perhaps not one of our natural passions so hard to subdue as pride. Disguise it, struggle with it, beat it down, stifle it, mortify it as much as one pleases, it is still alive, and will every now and then peep out and show itself...For even if I could conceive that I had completely overcome it, I should probably be proud of my humility."'' - Benjamin Franklin

"It's hard to be humble," says an old country "when you're in all respects ." Very few people, of course, actually think they're perfect in all respects, but it can still be pretty hard to be humble, especially when you live in a society that encourages and. Even in such a culture, however, humility is an important virtue. Learning to be humble is of paramount importance in most religions and traditions, and humility can also help you develop as a person and enjoy richer relationships with others.

== Steps ==
=== Evaluate Yourself ===
Conduct an honest evaluation of yourself. Honesty with yourself is the best policy. If you know you are weak in a certain area, your enemies will not be able to have that power over you. Accept yourself as you are.
Understand your limitations. No matter how talented you are, there is almost always somebody who can do something better than you. Look to those who are better and consider the potential for improvement. Even if you ''are'' the best in the world at doing one thing, there are always other things that you cannot do, and may never be able to do. Add to this the fact that there are a great many things that no person can do, and you can get some idea of your limitations. ''Recognizing your limitations does not mean abandoning your dreams, and it does not mean giving up on learning new things or improving your existing abilities.''
Recognize your own faults. We judge others because it's a lot easier than looking at ourselves. Unfortunately, it's also completely unproductive and, in many cases, harmful. Judging others causes strife in Relationships, and it prevents new relationships from forming. Perhaps even worse, it prevents us from trying to improve ourselves. We make judgments about others all the time, usually without even realizing it. As a practical exercise, try to catch yourself in the act of judging another person or group of people, and whenever you do, judge yourself instead. Consider how you can improve ''yourself''.
Think about yourself under different circumstances. Much of what we give ourselves credit for is actually a product of luck. Suppose you graduate from an Ivy League university at the top of your class. You definitely deserve a lot of credit for the many hours of studying and for your perseverance. Consider though, that there is someone just as Intelligent and hardworking as you who had less supportive parents, grew up in a different place, or just had the bad luck to make one wrong choice in life. That person—you, really—might be in jail now; they might be shivering in the entryway of a darkened storefront or clinging to life in a hospital bed. Or they may already have died, far from a hospital, from the very same illness for which your doctor treated you with a one-week course of antibiotics. Always remember that with a little bad luck yesterday, your whole life could be different today and, furthermore, that today could be the day your luck changes.

=== Appreciate the Talents of Other People ===
Appreciate the talents and qualities of others. Challenge yourself to look at others and appreciate the things they can do and, more generally, to appreciate people for who they are. Understand that everybody is different and relish the chance you have to experience different people. You will still have your personal tastes, your likes and dislikes, but train yourself to separate your opinions from your fears and you will appreciate others more - you will be humbler.
2.Stop comparing. It's nearly impossible to be humble when we're striving to be the "best" or trying to be better than others. Instead, try describing things more objectively. Rather than saying that so and so is the best guitarist ever, say what exactly it is that you appreciate about his skills, or simply say that you like his playing style. Let go of meaningless, simplistic comparisons, and you'll be able to enjoy doing things without worrying about whether you're better or worse at them than others.

=== Acknowledge Your Limitations ===
Don't be afraid to make mistakes. Part of being humble is understanding that you will make [[Avoid Repeating the Old Same Mistakes All over Again|mistakes]]. Understand this, and understand that everyone else makes mistakes, and you will have a heavy burden lifted off of you. Any one person can know only the smallest bits and pieces of the tremendous knowledge that has accumulated over the past. What's more, each person experiences only a sliver of the present, and knows little to nothing of the future.
Don't be afraid to defer to others' judgment. It's easy to acknowledge that you make mistakes and that you're not always right. Somewhat more difficult however, is the ability to acknowledge that in many cases other people—even people who disagree with you—may be right. Deferring to your spouse's wishes, to a law you don't agree with, or even, sometimes, to your child's opinion takes your recognition of your limitations to a different level. Instead of simply ''saying'' that you know that you're fallible, you take action based on that fact. Of course, if you know that a particular course of action is wrong, you shouldn't follow it. On closer inspection, though, you may realize that you don't actually know this as often as you think you do.

=== Rediscover a Sense of Wonder ===
Rejuvenate your sense of wonder. Because we, as individuals, know practically nothing, you'd expect that we'd be awestruck more often than we typically are. Children have this sense of wonder, and it inspires the curiosity that makes them such keen observers and capable learners. Do you really know how your microway works? Could you build one on your own? What about your car? Your brain? A rose? The jaded, "I've seen it all" attitude makes us feel far more important than we are. Be amazed like a child and you will not only be humbled; you will also be readier to learn.

=== Continue Learning New Things ===
Seek guidance. Contemplate moral texts and proverbs about humility. Pray for it, mediate on it, do whatever it takes to get your attention off yourself. If you're not into become more spiritual, consider the use of the scientific method. Science requires humility. It requires that you let go of your preconceived notions and judgments and understand that you don't know as much as you think you do.
Remain teachable. Find people you aspire to be like in certain areas, and ask them to mentor you. Under mentorship; good boundary setting, confidentiality and discernment is required. As soon as you cross the line of being 'unteachable', bring yourself back down to earth again.

=== Help Others ===
A big part of being humble is respecting others, and part of respecting others is helping them. Treat other people as equals and help them because it is the right thing to do. It's been said that when you can help others who cannot possibly help you in return, you have learned humility.
Practice gentleness. Gentleness of spirit is the sure path to humility. Use 'Aikido' where possible when faced with conflict. ie. Absorb the venom from other's attacks and react with gentleness and respect.

=== Recognize Your Talents ===
Appreciate your talents. Being humble doesn't mean you can't feel good about yourself. Develop your self-esteem, it is not the same as pride. Both come from a recognition of your own talents and qualities, but pride, the kind of pride that leans toward arrogance, is rooted in insecurity about yourself. Think about the abilities you have, and be thankful for them.

== Tips ==
Realize that others, in body and mind, are beautiful people. Look into the darkness of your soul and find your own faults, this will allow you to realize that everyone is better.

*Keep in mind that being humble has many benefits. Humility can help you be more content with your life, and it can also help you endure bad times and improve your relationships with others. It's also essential to being an effective learner. If you think you know it all, you won't be open-minded enough to seek out new knowledge. Humility is also, somewhat counter-intuitively, an excellent tool for self-development in general. After all, if you feel superior, you have no incentive to improve. Most of all, being humble allows you to be honest with yourself.
*Seek trusted and wise counsel and obtain accountability partners if you find this to be a weakness in your life. Pride comes before the fall and prevention is definitely better than cure.
*It is fine to talk about yourself a little, but make a conscious effort to ask people about themselves too.
*Associate with and help out people who are not likely to advance you in life (especially the poor, weak etc...)

== Warnings ==
*Pretending to be humble isn't the same as being humble, and often people who pretend to be humble do it in order to seek out praise. Other people will recognize this, and even if you fool some, you won't derive the same benefits as you would through actually developing humility.
*Similarly, don't confuse being humble with being sycophantic (being overly-praiseful of someone for your own profit). This is a common misconception, but the two attitudes are completely different.
*While a bit of humility is a good thing, don't take it too far, thus becoming a doormat. Remember, everything in moderation.

Author:  artfulroger [ Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:06 am ]
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Thanks for posting, interesting read, and a good bit of information. I think a lot of people struggle with critical thinking for themselves to be honest, well this is from what I have seen in people, they tend to let their ego get in the way and go on the defence.

Just out of curiosity where did you get this bit of text from? It would be interesting to read more.

Author:  IwantEasyLove [ Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:15 am ]
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Some people feel they are perfect and some people feel they are inadequate. Some people will love you for thinking you are flawless others will hate. Likewise some will admire you for modesty and others will hate it...

Also, often "critical thinking" is just an excuse to impose your judgment upon others. You think and believe a certain way so others should too.

Author:  skills360 [ Sat Sep 15, 2012 3:12 pm ]
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Thanks for posting, interesting read, and a good bit of information. I think a lot of people struggle with critical thinking for themselves to be honest, well this is from what I have seen in people, they tend to let their ego get in the way and go on the defence.

Just out of curiosity where did you get this bit of text from? It would be interesting to read more.
http://www.wikihow.com/Be-Humble

Author:  IAmMaynardJamesKeenan [ Sat Sep 15, 2012 4:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Skills on being humble...

Nice read. I might call it being Open Minded rather then modest.
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As you know i am all about being attractive instead of being good looking
I'm asking this because I'm trying to figure it out. Why not both?

Author:  EverythingGuy [ Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:00 pm ]
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Nice read. I might call it being Open Minded rather then modest.
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As you know i am all about being attractive instead of being good looking
I'm asking this because I'm trying to figure it out. Why not both?
Because looks can become a crutch.

Author:  IAmMaynardJamesKeenan [ Sat Sep 15, 2012 5:39 pm ]
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Well, I can understand that this kind of idea helps not-so-good looking people develop their charisma, because that's more important. But, based on his rep, he seems to be someone who got this under control (or he could be all theory).

Since looks obviously matter, I'm wondering why don't people work on that as well. It's like me saying that game can become a crutch, so you shouldn't work on it.

Also, I realized that this 'looks doesn't matter' thing became the new ego booster around here. People get all sorts off defensive and stubborn when it comes to this subject.

So... why not both? I'm asking Mr. Skills360.

Author:  skills360 [ Sat Sep 15, 2012 6:30 pm ]
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Well, I can understand that this kind of idea helps not-so-good looking people develop their charisma, because that's more important. But, based on his rep, he seems to be someone who got this under control (or he could be all theory).

Since looks obviously matter, I'm wondering why don't people work on that as well. It's like me saying that game can become a crutch, so you shouldn't work on it.

Also, I realized that this 'looks doesn't matter' thing became the new ego booster around here. People get all sorts off defensive and stubborn when it comes to this subject.

So... why not both? I'm asking Mr. Skills360.
Mr. skills 360 i like that hehehe! both of course(oh got you i put i am all about being attractive instead of being good looking, that was my bad will edit), fuck theory you got the wrong dude, my stuff is probability based on my field experience and other naturals i know and hang out with... here is from my best selling book lol:
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Being good-looking vs. being attractive:
Women are not as visual as men are, but as much as the community disagrees, everything counts including looks. With that being said, if you look good and that is all you have after ten seconds, women need more than that. You can get away with not having looks by having confidence, dance moves, and a tight game. These qualities will make you attractive. I am sure you’ve seen ugly guys (me) with beautiful women, or very good-looking guys who lose a woman to an ugly guy (me again). First impressions are important, and the better you look, the more and better quality girl you may pick up, or you may need less effort to game her and encounter less rejection. Then there’s this good scenario: women come up to you. (It happens to me all the time.) I am not that good looking, but I am super-attractive, I’ve got sex appeal, confidence, game and dance moves. Also, for my type of game you have to be in clubs sometimes for five hours, sometimes two to three times a week, and there is a lot of walking, so you need to be in optimal shape.

Things that makes a dude attractive:
• Dance moves: Being able to dance.
• Confidence: Being sure of yourself, knowing what you want, and being decisive. If you have self-doubt and hesitation, women will pick up on that and will lose attraction. Women feel what you feel inside.
• Wit: Women like guys who are smart and know about different subjects, not to be confused with a nerdy dude.
• Humor: Women like guys who can make them laugh. Laughter changes women’s emotions. To be funny you have to be smart. Caveat: Do not be a twenty-four-hour clown.
• Leadership: Women want to be led, and they like a man who can lead other men.
• Power: Women are naturally drawn to security (financial, physical protection, etc.).
• Ambition: If you do not have money but you have goals and ambition, it is the equivalent in a woman’s mind to a dude who has the money. I’ve been able to substitute for not having money with my drive, goals, and ambition.
• Manliness: Women want a man who is not a pussy, a man who has self-respect, and who, when a woman tests him, throws tantrums, and acts up, will be non-reactive, calm, and collected.
• Hygiene: A clean guy who smells nice.
• Self-care: Women like a man who takes care of his body, mind, and spirit.
• Muscles: A dude who works out, eats right. Muscles are the easiest way to become attractive fast.
• Stylishness: Women like a guy who can dress up and is stylish.
• Unpredictableness and fun: Women like men who are unpredictable (even if it frustrates them) and who, when the woman is around the dude, is always a good time.
• Sexual competence: An unapologetically sexual dude who will leave her wanting him again and again after sex.
• Bluntness: Women want an honest dude who will tell it like it is, instead of sugar-coating stuff.
• Self-amusement: Women like a dude who has fun with himself and does crazy shit for his own entertainment and does not give a fuck what everybody else thinks…including her. He is awesome and brings her and her emotions to his awesomeness.
• Abundance mentality: A man who has or acts like he has choices when it comes to women, vs. a man who is desperate (scarcity). Women hate and lose attraction for guys who are needy or jealous.
• Congruency: A guy whose actions, words, and personality all match up.
• Game: Knowing what to do and how to act with woman and people in different situations

Author:  IAmMaynardJamesKeenan [ Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:24 pm ]
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Thank you sir. By your list alone, I can already see that you're someone who knows what he's talking about.
My list is similar and I'll steal some of these points that I don't have.

I'm basically working on most of these aspects... specifically focusing on Sexual Competence and Style at this moment. People just don't realize that there are other important stuff besides game and charisma, and I'm kind of sick of discussing this when I'm called egoistic.

I think this quote by a woman, illustrates my view on physical looks:
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I am a visual creature and I am a slave to my impulses, but looks are not everything, they have to have charisma. Intelligence, humor, and whatnot. I would say in that respect, women are much pickier than men. As someone who is very obsessed with physical appearances, I do think about what genes my kids are getting. LOOKS MAKE LIFE EASIER. good looking people have the automatic advantage. Think about your children!

The absolute FIRST thing people look for in a "mate" is good health. Good health means attractiveness, means able to provide financial stability, means good genes passed down, signals a long lifetime...
So, it's primarily good genes (good health = living long enough to take care of the children), good looking children = easier life, then I'd like to add the physical security, getting respect from other men, some rational fears fade away...

Also I didn't have Bluntness. Which is something that I do all the time, but it was not something that I'd consider desirable in pick-up... until now. I can't lie, nor I need to... I just have to say the stuff on my mind :)

Anyway, keep up the good work. Will be looking into your stuff.
Take care.

Author:  artfulroger [ Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:55 pm ]
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Some people feel they are perfect and some people feel they are inadequate. Some people will love you for thinking you are flawless others will hate. Likewise some will admire you for modesty and others will hate it...

Also, often "critical thinking" is just an excuse to impose your judgment upon others. You think and believe a certain way so others should too.
I do agree. I just re read what I put, and I didn't word it quite right but I basically meant the same thing, I just meant critical and analytical thinking applied to yourself, people let their egos stop them from admitting they're bad at something or they need to improve in a certain area.

Author:  skills360 [ Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:00 pm ]
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Thank you sir. By your list alone, I can already see that you're someone who knows what he's talking about.
My list is similar and I'll steal some of these points that I don't have.

I'm basically working on most of these aspects... specifically focusing on Sexual Competence and Style at this moment. People just don't realize that there are other important stuff besides game and charisma, and I'm kind of sick of discussing this when I'm called egoistic.

I think this quote by a woman, illustrates my view on physical looks:
Quote:
I am a visual creature and I am a slave to my impulses, but looks are not everything, they have to have charisma. Intelligence, humor, and whatnot. I would say in that respect, women are much pickier than men. As someone who is very obsessed with physical appearances, I do think about what genes my kids are getting. LOOKS MAKE LIFE EASIER. good looking people have the automatic advantage. Think about your children!

The absolute FIRST thing people look for in a "mate" is good health. Good health means attractiveness, means able to provide financial stability, means good genes passed down, signals a long lifetime...
So, it's primarily good genes (good health = living long enough to take care of the children), good looking children = easier life, then I'd like to add the physical security, getting respect from other men, some rational fears fade away...

Also I didn't have Bluntness. Which is something that I do all the time, but it was not something that I'd consider desirable in pick-up... until now. I can't lie, nor I need to... I just have to say the stuff on my mind :)

Anyway, keep up the good work. Will be looking into your stuff.
Take care.
Well bluntness is kind of my opinion, some guys tell women what they want to hear specially nice guys, women like security so they lose respect for guys that are very agreeable to avoid confrontation, "the typical nice guy".

Author:  theurbanwarrior [ Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:25 pm ]
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@ Skills360 - this is a great topic. I feel like ive gained a lot from it so im glad you pointed it out. It took a while to get caught up with all the posted material but im glad I did; it was eye opening.

Ive had a few body issues too, so the post about looks as a crutch really gave me a fresh pov on the matter. Ive actually gotten stood up twice this month and I pretty positive its cos I was trying too hard to be alpha and came off arrogant/cocky instead.

Author:  VFresh21 [ Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:25 am ]
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I agree with this 100%. I realized the power in this when I met a guy who is one of the most "Alpha Men" I know and at the same time the most humble. This guy has every reason in the world to be arrogant but it seems like if he was he would literally have no friends because they would all feel inferior. It is like you reach a certain level of value and the only way for people not to feel inferior around you is to be humble about it.

Author:  IwantEasyLove [ Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:51 am ]
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Some people feel they are perfect and some people feel they are inadequate. Some people will love you for thinking you are flawless others will hate. Likewise some will admire you for modesty and others will hate it...

Also, often "critical thinking" is just an excuse to impose your judgment upon others. You think and believe a certain way so others should too.
I do agree. I just re read what I put, and I didn't word it quite right but I basically meant the same thing, I just meant critical and analytical thinking applied to yourself, people let their egos stop them from admitting they're bad at something or they need to improve in a certain area.
Yeah you got to face the truth if you're going to make an improvement.

I just think they're are a lot of cocky guys out there that get plenty of women. Modesty is more of a personal preference.

Author:  Breaking Bad [ Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:39 am ]
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360skills making a thread on being humble... never thought Id see the day!

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