Hey skillls i love you videos man....im a slasa dancer...and a pretty damned good one...but um i have 0 game wen it comes to dance floor seduction i will put alot to the test from now on
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| Author: | skills360 [ Thu Sep 13, 2012 5:23 am ] |
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Ok a lot of people have question specially newbies about sarging alone, i will talk to you about the pros and cons and my experience through out the years (my opinion): SARGE—1. verb: to pick up women, or to go out to try and meet women. SARGER—noun: a person who picks up women; a member of the pickup community. There is not a right or wrong way, it is what you are comfortable with and makes YOU happy... When i started 20 years ago kind of a chode, i wanted to hang out with guys that got women, so i experimented with different groups of guys to see how they got women, gansters, surfers, rockers, drug heads(even though i never touched drugs),preps, naturals etc... Most of them were full of shit, bull shit artist(they barely got girls). The reason i am telling you this is cause if you hang out with the wrong crowd or bs artists, it will delay your learning curve or technique; then i hung out with an african american natural named #1, hanging out with someone that was good with women cut out my learning curve by probably years and kind of change my life... After accidentally going to a party and discovering dance floor game i hung out with couple of guys that were decent(they only got girls cause they dance, no much skills).. Here is my opinion on the advantages of sargin with guys: 1.- if they are attractive then guilt by association you will be attractive since you are with them(same tribe) 2.- if they get girls then some of those girls have friends and women have group mentality so if some of them hook up you may hook up... 3.-You look social if they are cool and like you are having a good time which is attractive. 4.- Sometimes all of you challenge each other and compete and it makes you more confident in some cases and forces you to approach and hook up. 5.- they can drive so you do not have to. 6.- You spend time with friends you enjoy and bond... 7.- If the dudes are social and good with women will help your learning curve and technique since is a live presentation of pick up, real time. Disadvantages: 1.- If they are low statue/value whatever you call it or making mistakes in their game constantly you may get the guilt by association and you may be looked as low statue by some women. 2.- If you want to go to another club, party or you hooked up, they may bother you or not let you since you drove or they are your ride, so sometimes is decision by the group which kills some of your freedom.. 3.- sometimes a bunch of guys together will have trouble going in, into a high end club, the too many dudes not good for the club syndrome.. 4.- if they fight(only takes one of the members you have to jump in).. 5.- if they are limited amount of women, you may have to fight for the same women, and for a dude, for example like me, i do not compete, it may fuck with my game. 6.- ^ follow up which is a continuation of 5, when i am with a girl i do push pull, so i am aggressive sexual, then i do take away, and ignore and step back and no pay attention sometimes to raise buying temperature( if you do not agree irrelevant i am trying to make a point), sometimes while doing something like this, your friend may fucked up your game by stepping in. For what i heard some rsd people do shit like that to each other, which i think is retarded, but anyways.. 7.- If they having an off night or full of negativity or they put you down, it will affect you... 8.- If they suck at getting girls or being social, you will learn bad fundamentals, bad technique etc.. 9.- Sometimes envy or guys trying to high jack your success or put you down, even your friends. For example i had a friend that for years use to tell girls i was a player behind my back and i never knew it( so he can play good cop and get the girl)... Also he would try to ridicule me and make fun of me to the point i felt uncomfortable when i was learning to dance... Now that i look back he was trying to remind the top dancer. 10.- You may get girls for validation instead of chemistry to impress your friends. So my personal opinion the best system is a bit of both, what i love is to go out ALONE, drive my own car, and have my friends at the clubs etc.. But be kind of independent, we hang out, but we are not exclusive, i do my thing without permission, and i can do my banishing act, and they do their thing... Going out alone has many advantages since women and groups of women are less intimidated to open you, specially if you dance, or if you are attractive. However if is a 2 set and you are about to fuck the other girl may feel like a third wheel, and fuck everything up, but if you have a bad wing with no game it is the same as you being alone for that left out girl. What going out alone is not: 1.- Being antisocial 2.-Acting like you are lost and do not belong. 3.- freaking out and being inadequate cause you are alone. 4.- not knowing people in the venue(You will start knowing people after couple of times you go to the same clubs) Hope it helps since i see at least 10 post a week about sargin alone...It is not big deal I LOVE IT! The last few weeks i have a dude that i am teaching following me around and i hate it(my results not as good as if i was alone, for the guilt by association reason), he loves it since he is improving. |
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| Author: | Heywood Jablowme [ Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:14 pm ] |
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I always enjoy your posts Skills, even though our game is different (I am not a dancer by any stretch!) I would like to add if I may: When "Sarging" with wings (more than one or two) sometimes this causes a lower M/F ratio. You open a set, and the comrades start AMOGing each other! Causing tension among your own group, and blowing out the set! |
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| Author: | skills360 [ Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:36 pm ] |
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Quote: I always enjoy your posts Skills, even though our game is different (I am not a dancer by any stretch!)
I would like to add if I may: When "Sarging" with wings (more than one or two) sometimes this causes a lower M/F ratio. You open a set, and the comrades start AMOGing each other! Causing tension among your own group, and blowing out the set! ^ yes, i kind of mention something along those lines...Do you sarge alone? |
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| Author: | Heywood Jablowme [ Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:03 pm ] |
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Quote: Quote: I always enjoy your posts Skills, even though our game is different (I am not a dancer by any stretch!)
I would like to add if I may: When "Sarging" with wings (more than one or two) sometimes this causes a lower M/F ratio. You open a set, and the comrades start AMOGing each other! Causing tension among your own group, and blowing out the set! ^ yes, i kind of mention something along those lines...Do you sarge alone? I also find that opening with "peers" that don't have a clue, will sometime even try to make 'excuses" for my behavior, Like "Oh oh sorry girls, we don't let him out much!" LMFAO! Especially if I drop a neg on a hot bartender, while they out of desperation kiss her ass! |
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| Author: | longtin [ Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:15 pm ] |
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Hey skillls i love you videos man....im a slasa dancer...and a pretty damned good one...but um i have 0 game wen it comes to dance floor seduction i will put alot to the test from now on
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| Author: | skills360 [ Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:07 pm ] |
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Quote: Hey skillls i love you videos man....im a slasa dancer...and a pretty damned good one...but um i have 0 game wen it comes to dance floor seduction i will put alot to the test from now on
I can dance salsa, it is a waste of time due to "courtship factor", stick to top 40, hip hop and reggae, which is music that allows escalation and are sexually charge, go to my main post on approaching and opening or get the book your chances will improve... |
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| Author: | Crypto [ Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:02 pm ] |
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A lot of good info in there Skills...Much Respect! Peace... |
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| Author: | CaliForniCatioN [ Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:03 pm ] |
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VERY nice bro' thanks for making it short and practical. |
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| Author: | salmanchy93 [ Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:57 pm ] |
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Great... stuff... Really like the advice!! ... |
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| Author: | loverkenn [ Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:33 am ] |
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Man skills since I like to dance I really do gain from reading your post only because im more of a dance floor game myself (but not limited to) and seeing how I have no wing who has no game I might have to start soloing it |
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| Author: | VFresh21 [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:19 am ] |
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Skills - This has really inspired me to start doing this on a regular basis. I do have trouble with getting in the rythem of it though when I have tried. I do feel out of place and awkward. Could you expand on what you love so much about going solo and the process in which you got there? Also if you could talk more about learning to dance well I am very interested. Thanks for the great post. -VF |
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| Author: | skills360 [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:17 pm ] |
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Quote: Skills - This has really inspired me to start doing this on a regular basis. I do have trouble with getting in the rythem of it though when I have tried. I do feel out of place and awkward. Could you expand on what you love so much about going solo and the process in which you got there? Also if you could talk more about learning to dance well I am very interested.
The reason i really enjoy going solo is due to the freedom and flexibility it offers which is priceless, but as you notice after 3 times going to club, pubs, bars, people will get familiar with you and your face and automatically start saying hi etc... You do not have to be completely solo, as i said sometimes i do have other naturals that meet me there, but my preference is still to be completely alone i tend to do way better, just say hi to them and do my thing, lately for example my game has slow down, and is because i am out of rhythm i am teaching some dude how to do this game, and i am approaching for approaching just to show him, and hanging out with him, since he is chode gives in my opinion the guilt by association factor in some cases, it is my opinion. Anyways, about dance floor game, the reason why i enjoy dance floor game vs any type of regular game, is because you open and you get physically/sexual right away is normal and expected, women associate dancing with bedroom skills(even if you suck in bed) and is just a very fast game and none verbal game, it does have disadvantages since women are way more guarded, they assume if you approach you want to fuck them etc... Anyways, sargin solo may work better with 21 + club crowd, may not work as well for high school and college frat settings... Unless is a college crowd outside of the college, lets say in a club etc... In other words this work well in none social circles settings. I hate social circle game "90210" "the hills" crap, for me is too slow, drama, you need look money or status and is not efficient, again imo(after doing social circle game in high school). But everybody should do game according to their strength, if you are a highschool quaterback i would do social circle game, since it would give an advantage. Hope it helps, if you want to get an idea of a bit of dance floor game watch my youtube channel videos and follow my post on approaching and opening.
Thanks for the great post. -VF |
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| Author: | skills360 [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:24 pm ] |
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Quote: Man skills since I like to dance I really do gain from reading your post only because im more of a dance floor game myself (but not limited to) and seeing how I have no wing who has no game I might have to start soloing it
You can do solo, or teach him get in sync, i used to have a dance floor crew were all my friends and i were in sync when it came to game and that brought a lot of girls. They are all married now, lol, so if is somebody that is on the same game plan, dresses nice, looks good, then is ok, in other words he ads value instead of sucking up value, in my experience unfortunately very few dudes ad value....here is my dance floor post: the-skills-method-to-club-game-dance-fl ... highlight= |
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| Author: | Wall1e [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:02 pm ] |
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Yeah solo club sarging is really good if you know what you're doing. I hate it when I go to the club and friends are there. Why? 90% of them are just standing there, looking around, freaking statues in the middle of the dancefloor. I mean come on, why the hell do you go to a club, with music, if you are just standing there like a statue? Worst thing: Whenever I walk away, after 10-15 minutes they start looking around, they find me, stand next to me when i'm dancing, AND BE STANDING STATUES AGAIN! THEY ARE JUST IN THE FREAKING WAY! I mean, it's cool that my friends are there, but really stay out of my way when i'm dancing if you're not dancing. Also when i'm dancing alone ( I noticed ), with like a lot of space around you, guess what: the girls come TO you. You will be surrounded by them. Even though it feels awkward, JUST DO IT. I have no experience with dancing schools and stuff like that. But I just dance because I like to do it. Unless you have good, sexy dancing friends next to you, you want to be alone. Wallie |
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| Author: | skills360 [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:11 pm ] |
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Quote: Yeah solo club sarging is really good if you know what you're doing.
I hate it when I go to the club and friends are there. Why? 90% of them are just standing there, looking around, freaking statues in the middle of the dancefloor. I mean come on, why the hell do you go to a club, with music, if you are just standing there like a statue? Worst thing: Whenever I walk away, after 10-15 minutes they start looking around, they find me, stand next to me when i'm dancing, AND BE STANDING STATUES AGAIN! THEY ARE JUST IN THE FREAKING WAY! I mean, it's cool that my friends are there, but really stay out of my way when i'm dancing if you're not dancing. Also when i'm dancing alone ( I noticed ), with like a lot of space around you, guess what: the girls come TO you. You will be surrounded by them. Even though it feels awkward, JUST DO IT. I have no experience with dancing schools and stuff like that. But I just dance because I like to do it. Unless you have good, sexy dancing friends next to you, you want to be alone. Wallie ^ that exellent! You do not need dancing schools... Just dance in a way that the girl and her friends have fun and get involve, and escalate, simple, good job dude! |
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