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Author:  Bedrock [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:52 am ]
Post subject:  How To Own A Bar?

I just turned 21 in May. I'm in a LTR...called for life (I'm engaged haha). I've been in a relationship for almost 3 years. Not being 21 makes going to bars reaaaaaaallllly boring, so I've never gone. But I've been going to a bar the last couple months with a group of friends (my fiance included) and having a good time, meeting people, dancing my ass off and such.

BUT! We plan on making it a weekly thing to go to the same bar (it's our scene and the people there are the best in the city). I'm new to the bar scene. Since we'll be there once a week, I want to own that bar. I want to walk in, have the bouncers greet me, have the bartenders know me, and just be the fucking king.

'Cept I have no idea how to do that. If anyone had any tips, basic outline, suggestions, anything, I would totally be appreciative of that.

Thank you!

Author:  AlphaConfidence [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:56 pm ]
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The keys to "owning a bar"

1. Make sure you go on the same night of the week, around the same time (hopefully getting the same staff) - if the staff knows you, you come across as a high valued male.

2. Get to the bar during non peek hours, when it isn't flooded with douche bags and posers, before 10pm, after 7pm (after work rush).

3. Make CONVERSATION, keep in mind everyone there is a "hired gun"

4. Tip BIG, atleast for the first month. 30%. Bill comes to $30? Tip $10. It will make you stand out from the rest of the 21 year old frat boys throwing down $2 tips. Note: Don't try tipping big to pick up girls, tip your male bar tenders just as much. This will also get you faster service.

5. Learn the "hired guns name" and make a point for them to learn yours, eventually they will know you as a "regular" and have your drink memorized and will adress you by name. Thus DHVing you thru the roof.

6. Bouncers on the other hand have a high turn away rate (high quit rate) don't bother wasting your time with them to much, give them respect (ID ready at the door) and they will give you respect. Also holding good body language when around them will automatically make them respect you more, thus making you look better

7: FINAL POINT: ACT AS IF YOU OWN THE MOTHER FUCKING BAR! Take the best seats, adress everyone by name as if they WERE YOUR EMPLOYEES! See some douche bags harassing a waitress or a bartender? Be an alpha (not a white night) and call them on there bs. You don't have to be a hero, just get them to calm
Down or leave.



NOTE TO ANY NEW PUA READING THIS POST, THIS IS HOW TO "OWN A BAR" NOT PICK UP WOMEN! DONT DO THIS TO TRY TO IMPRESS WOMEN!

Side note: owning a bar will automatically aid in picking up women, and in getting "hired guns"

Hope this helped, cheers!

Confidence.

Author:  skills360 [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How To Own A Bar?

Quote:
I just turned 21 in May. I'm in a LTR...called for life (I'm engaged haha). I've been in a relationship for almost 3 years. Not being 21 makes going to bars reaaaaaaallllly boring, so I've never gone. But I've been going to a bar the last couple months with a group of friends (my fiance included) and having a good time, meeting people, dancing my ass off and such.

BUT! We plan on making it a weekly thing to go to the same bar (it's our scene and the people there are the best in the city). I'm new to the bar scene. Since we'll be there once a week, I want to own that bar. I want to walk in, have the bouncers greet me, have the bartenders know me, and just be the fucking king.

'Cept I have no idea how to do that. If anyone had any tips, basic outline, suggestions, anything, I would totally be appreciative of that.

Thank you!

pm sexaddict911 he used to own a bar... you will probably hate me, but you should not get married at 21, sorry dude... You are still a baby for guys minimum age to get married maybe 28 for women maybe 26.... You are setting yourself up for disaster, again, my bad... if you will continue to get married, save my post, so in a year or two when you get divorce you can send me some reputation points...Watch the whole video before getting married:




[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_yr2LDVObs[/youtube]

Author:  poeticlyskuac [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:58 pm ]
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Quote:
The keys to "owning a bar"

1. Make sure you go on the same night of the week, around the same time (hopefully getting the same staff) - if the staff knows you, you come across as a high valued male.

2. Get to the bar during non peek hours, when it isn't flooded with douche bags and posers, before 10pm, after 7pm (after work rush).

3. Make CONVERSATION, keep in mind everyone there is a "hired gun"

4. Tip BIG, atleast for the first month. 30%. Bill comes to $30? Tip $10. It will make you stand out from the rest of the 21 year old frat boys throwing down $2 tips. Note: Don't try tipping big to pick up girls, tip your male bar tenders just as much. This will also get you faster service.

5. Learn the "hired guns name" and make a point for them to learn yours, eventually they will know you as a "regular" and have your drink memorized and will adress you by name. Thus DHVing you thru the roof.

6. Bouncers on the other hand have a high turn away rate (high quit rate) don't bother wasting your time with them to much, give them respect (ID ready at the door) and they will give you respect. Also holding good body language when around them will automatically make them respect you more, thus making you look better

7: FINAL POINT: ACT AS IF YOU OWN THE MOTHER FUCKING BAR! Take the best seats, adress everyone by name as if they WERE YOUR EMPLOYEES! See some douche bags harassing a waitress or a bartender? Be an alpha (not a white night) and call them on there bs. You don't have to be a hero, just get them to calm
Down or leave.



NOTE TO ANY NEW PUA READING THIS POST, THIS IS HOW TO "OWN A BAR" NOT PICK UP WOMEN! DONT DO THIS TO TRY TO IMPRESS WOMEN!

Side note: owning a bar will automatically aid in picking up women, and in getting "hired guns"

Hope this helped, cheers!

Confidence.
Great tips!

I'd like to add a bit though... Owning a bar is all about building relationships. While bouncers have a high turnover rate they usually end up merely moving bars (you got connections at the next bar they move to), I'm all about getting in good with the door people because even if they are there 4-5 months you will still get love for a bit of time and get in free in some clubs. The door guys also set up your appearance on the walk in.

Your consistent business will help build that relationship we tend to like folks who are more familiar, people we see more often. So your repeated exposure will help.

I agree with the names especially learn their name, but just as importantly introduce yourself. Don't just be a face, be a name too. Even if they don't remember your name they'll likely remember your face and that you introduced yourself. When they don't remember your name joke about, but let them know it ain't a big deal you've forgotten names tons of times, at least they remembered your face.

Which brings me to my next point, BE MEMORABLE. Don't be memorable for bad reasons (the asshole at the bar), be memorable because you joked with them smiled and had some fun. We usually remember people we like.

If you witnessed an asshole to the bartender, take his/her side and joke about it perhaps listening to them vent for a second. Listening builds a connection, talking builds attraction (even nonsexual attraction which is what you are shooting for), you want to have both with them.

Know the patrons, while knowing employees is important, knowing the regular patrons can be just as important. I walked into a bar the other day I haven't been to in literally 6 months, I still walked in shook probably 10 people's hands, and knew 2 of the bar tenders. When I walked in with my buddies I looked like I owned the place based off of how many people I engaged in the place.

Every time you see someone you recognize greet them with a familiar "hey how you doing?" smile, rather than pass people up recognize them. People love to be recognized and remembered when you do this for people they will normally have their own memory reignited.

Your entire goal is to build lots of good relationships through out the bar. I can go to a bar I haven't been to for over a year, and most of the time the employees will remember me.

Smile at them, smile smile smile! You need to be a good memory not a bad memory if you smile they smile back and you make them feel good.

I can go to 3-4 bars and get preferred service (they pass up other folks to come to me, free or discount drinks), but go to tons more bars and know employees/patrons.

Be polite - Follow the golden rule of treat others as you would like to be treated. When it comes to bar tenders believe it or not you saying please and thank you really do stand out because a lot of folks aren't gracious or polite. When I walk up to get a glass a water I ask with a smile "May I please get a glass of water?" This doesn't mean you are submissive it means you are polite you should hold yourself confidently regardless. Trust me being polite gets a lot of love.

Owning a bar is really about bonding with the people there and building connections. It's actually quite simple but requires some social skills. When I go out with my friends I always joke that "I'm fucking famous" because I know people literally every bar we go to. It's rare when I don't know someone even if I have never been to a bar (SLC UT only a million or so folks here).

Your body language should say I'm the man as well, confident and comfortable. It should be written all over your movements, stance, posture, everything, you need to be comfortable and confident as well as a social butterfly. When you walk in to a place and shake 10 peoples hands walk up and get 2 free drinks, you know you own a spot. I put my videos on this thread if you need help with body language: alpha-body-language-video-series-vt139475.html

Peace and Love

Vic

Author:  Chiasmata [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:13 pm ]
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This is all pretty good info. I'm going to have to agree and say that I would definitely chat up the bouncers and door people too. Keep in mind, sometimes assholes start things and it's unavoidable. You want the bouncer on your side, not the other guys. I've been known to buy an extra shot when my friends and I are doing a round and tell the bartender that that one is theirs. If your friends are open to it and the bar doesn't mind, a game of quarters can be fun. I can't even begin to tell you how many times I've met people playing simply by pushing a seat out and telling them to have a seat and play a few rounds. Ask the waitstaff also. They spend a lot of time on their feet and the offer to sit and have a break for a moment will usually be pretty welcome.

Author:  DJ_Z [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:30 pm ]
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Easy way to start is to introduce yourself/ask for names. I haven't paid cover or been carded at one club I frequent in a couple months because I took thirty seconds out of my night to go on a slow night, say what's up, and talk a bit. If you act like you're trying to be their best friend, most bartenders/bouncers I know would assume you're a drunkass trying to score cheap drinks.

"Hey, what's your name man? (tells you name) Nice meeting you, man, have a good night."

Author:  lolaskate [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:38 am ]
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HERE'S THE TRICK.

What you do is hire topless bartenders.

Here is the kicker, Make sure they are all male, all good looking and all ripped as fuck.

Who is gonna come? All the ladies. Who is gonna follow them? The afcs.

You get all the business.

Author:  Bedrock [ Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: How To Own A Bar?

Quote:
pm sexaddict911 he used to own a bar... you will probably hate me, but you should not get married at 21, sorry dude... You are still a baby for guys minimum age to get married maybe 28 for women maybe 26.... You are setting yourself up for disaster, again, my bad... if you will continue to get married, save my post, so in a year or two when you get divorce you can send me some reputation points...Watch the whole video before getting married:
]
At first, I decided that I wasn't going to reply to such a close minded comment like this. But, for the benefit of the forum, I'll just say a few things... Rant time! Woo!

Age is just a number. A 21 year-old could have more life experience or have loved more than a 35-year-old, age has nothing to do with it. I've had awesome hookups and crazy experiences as a young person. Milfs, one night stands, crazy house parties, running from the cops, walking into a party and having the entire basement chant my nickname... Yeah, been there done that. You can't put a number on love. As long as you can handle the situation and the relationship in the correct way, age doesn't matter. What do you say to the couple that grew up together and married right out of high school because they said they were in love? That they're dumb? No. If they're in love then they're in love and you have no place to say anything about it. My parents next door neighbor is a couple that married right out of high school. Wanna know how long they've been together? Over 40 years. Age is a number that doesn't mean shit... Unless you're the guy that's into 15 year-olds :shock:

You posted on another thing I wrote with a video that said my fiance will cheat on me and all this other blah shit (10-vt132710.html?postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=135). Well, you see.... I'm not hating on social dynamics, they have a lot of impressive material, but the thing that social dynamics will never, ever understand and manipulate is love. Ever. Say my fiance goes to a bar and meets you or one of those RSD guys in the video. Sure, make her feel all these good feelings, banter, tease, play, joke, make her laugh her ass off and be really attracted to you... But at the end of the night put her in a room with you or one of those guys and I guarantee that ten times out of ten she will not cheat and you'll be going home one sad puppy. Want to know how I know that? Because we're in love. Hate as much as you want with your social dynamics and shit, but that's that and there's nothing you can do about it. Because nothing can stop love.

Save your comment so I can give you rep when I get divorced? Haha yeah okay man :roll: The most I'll do is save your comment and come back in 5 years just to give you negative rep when we buy our first house together.

So if you still have this idea that we're setting ourselves up for disaster by getting married at a young age, I honestly just feel bad for you man. Honestly, I really do. Because that means that you have no idea and have never experienced what real, true love is like. Because if you did, you would know it doesn't matter how old we are.


Damn I feel so much better.

Author:  skills360 [ Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How To Own A Bar?

Quote:
Quote:
pm sexaddict911 he used to own a bar... you will probably hate me, but you should not get married at 21, sorry dude... You are still a baby for guys minimum age to get married maybe 28 for women maybe 26.... You are setting yourself up for disaster, again, my bad... if you will continue to get married, save my post, so in a year or two when you get divorce you can send me some reputation points...Watch the whole video before getting married:
]
At first, I decided that I wasn't going to reply to such a close minded comment like this. But, for the benefit of the forum, I'll just say a few things... Rant time! Woo!

Age is just a number. A 21 year-old could have more life experience or have loved more than a 35-year-old, age has nothing to do with it. I've had awesome hookups and crazy experiences as a young person. Milfs, one night stands, crazy house parties, running from the cops, walking into a party and having the entire basement chant my nickname... Yeah, been there done that. You can't put a number on love. As long as you can handle the situation and the relationship in the correct way, age doesn't matter. What do you say to the couple that grew up together and married right out of high school because they said they were in love? That they're dumb? No. If they're in love then they're in love and you have no place to say anything about it. My parents next door neighbor is a couple that married right out of high school. Wanna know how long they've been together? Over 40 years. Age is a number that doesn't mean shit... Unless you're the guy that's into 15 year-olds :shock:

You posted on another thing I wrote with a video that said my fiance will cheat on me and all this other blah shit (10-vt132710.html?postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=135). Well, you see.... I'm not hating on social dynamics, they have a lot of impressive material, but the thing that social dynamics will never, ever understand and manipulate is love. Ever. Say my fiance goes to a bar and meets you or one of those RSD guys in the video. Sure, make her feel all these good feelings, banter, tease, play, joke, make her laugh her ass off and be really attracted to you... But at the end of the night put her in a room with you or one of those guys and I guarantee that ten times out of ten she will not cheat and you'll be going home one sad puppy. Want to know how I know that? Because we're in love. Hate as much as you want with your social dynamics and shit, but that's that and there's nothing you can do about it. Because nothing can stop love.

Save your comment so I can give you rep when I get divorced? Haha yeah okay man :roll: The most I'll do is save your comment and come back in 5 years just to give you negative rep when we buy our first house together.

So if you still have this idea that we're setting ourselves up for disaster by getting married at a young age, I honestly just feel bad for you man. Honestly, I really do. Because that means that you have no idea and have never experienced what real, true love is like. Because if you did, you would know it doesn't matter how old we are.


Damn I feel so much better.

You took the video out of context, the point of the video was to avoid getting comfortable in the relationship. Good luck dude to you dude, you think i am trying to amog you or to pupu your marriage i was trying to help you. i was a Family youth counselor, I do anything related to housing and legal defense(so i have access to 1000s of private info. Since i do divorces)... Anyways you are very young and IN LOVE, marrying at 21, I guarantee you your chances at 21( you have not gotten shit out of your system, i do not care what you say) of succeeding getting marriage is super low dude.... Here, go to page 14 look at your statistical probability of success, and instead of thanking me from saving you from jumping from a cliff you give me this stupid ass comments and give me negative rep. points, good luck dude, by the way i do not blame me you, my gf step sister i beg her not to get married she got married, now a year later divorce, age 21, anyways dude good luck to you, i give you tops 5 years, i will pm you my biz car i will give a discount from the divorce, married couple from back in the days getting married young and staying together was different generation, let me give a lesson society and cultures evolve:

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr049.pdf

Author:  skills360 [ Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:31 pm ]
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Language like the above is unacceptable. Failure to comply with forum rules may result in a ban or removal of posting privileges.
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Anyways you are a baby that probably do not know how to wipe your ass properly, very IMMATURE, specially with this post, buying a bar with the goal to be cool,
I've seen this mistake made a couple times in this thread. The OP used "own" as a figure of speech, to make the bar "his." I do not think, nor have I seen him hint at, wanting to own an actual bar. Rather, he'd like to be known as a regular and treated as such.

Keep this thread on topic, please. Thanks :)


My apologies, edited!


here is the right way to own a bar from the sexman

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Here is Sexaddict911 and his club rituals:
The game is different based on whether or not you plan to visit this club again. I usually assume I will be back (unless it is far out of town or I am on vacation). I do not have any outlines or model of what I do, but I do have some rituals that I tend to follow.
If you arrive at the club early, it is a good idea to spend some time with the staff. Being very polite and friendly can help you later on in the night.
Even before entering, talk to the doorman. Establish a good rapport with him. Get his name. Be extremely friendly. Try to be memorable. (This can help you in the future if you frequent the club again.)
I usually look for an attractive bartender (male or female). I will order a drink and then offer a very big tip, $5-$10. I will then say to them, “I am giving you this tip now to ensure great service from you. There will be another big tip at the end of the night.” This usually gets you served first, when you approach the bar when it’s crowded.
The reason I look for the most attractive bartender is because they usually have the most eyes on them when it becomes packed (while customers are waiting for drinks). So when you come to the bar to order another drink and they serve you first, it usually makes others wonder, What is so special about you?
Talk to the bouncers, establish a friendly rapport, get their names, and remember them. You never know when you may need their help. (Being seen with bouncers can often help you establish a sort of “Don’t mess with this guy” attitude from other alpha males in the club.)
After I have successfully worked the staff, I will then seek out a spot in the bar where I can see the most. I spend the next thirty to sixty minutes observing. (I will rarely work game right away unless it presents itself to me.) I will also do many laps of the club, getting myself seen and trying to establish eye contact with as many beautiful women as possible. When eye contact is established as I walk by, I will usually smile or make some sort of positive gesture, then keep walking. (I am not approaching anyone at this time.)
What I am looking for is simple tells, wedding bands/engagement rings, boyfriends, signs of interest—extended looks, smiles, smirks, attention, positive energy, dancing style, drunkenness ( too drunk is no good for my game), cock blockers, etc. All of these things are observed when trying to find a mark.
I will pick only one mark at a time. Sure, there may be ten girls I want to work on, but I will focus on only one at a time.
A very important element in a club setting is your comfort around other alpha males. It is wise to always find friendly ones, based on overheard conversation, etc. A very easy way to establish a friendship with them is to show your interest in the women in the club. (As a hot woman walks by, observe her, then look at the other guys observing her, then as she is gone, comment to the other men on how hot she was and what you would like to do to her.) It’s a form of mutual bonding, as all of you have the same intentions.
Never address a group of men. Talk to usually one or two men at once. Groups tend to have a group mentality, and often you can unconsciously be seen as an intruder, but talking to one or two members of the group can easily bring you into general acceptance.
The easiest way to get respect from guys in a club is to be good at dancing. Dancing is the best possible tool to have in a club setting. The better you are, the more respect you will garner. (If you are not in any way an alpha male, I suggest you learn to dance well.) It also sets you apart from the rest. Almost any dance floor in any club anywhere in the world is usually 80-90% women. Then out of the 10-20% of men on the dance floor, how many are dancing well or even dancing at all? If you are on the dance floor dancing well, you become a very small percentile, thus making you almost unique.
Becoming comfortable in your present setting is essential to starting your game in the right mindset. The better your mindset, the better your game.

Author:  Bedrock [ Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:12 pm ]
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Well anyways, let's get back to what's actually important :)

Man! Poeticlyskuac and PUA-RD-AB nailed it! Good job guys, that was some great info you dropped there. I'll be sure to definitely use these tips in the days to come :) I'll even post some results.

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