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Author:  #1 Jish [ Tue May 22, 2012 11:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Logic vs Emotions
This is old news....... I've re-discovered that women do not respond to logic really in any way at all when out in the field. Using logical conversation with women in a pickup context is suicide. in general they respond to fun, games and stirring them up (cocky funny)
I'm just after some opinions on introducing fun into my "game" since like a lot of other guys here I am guilty of resorting to logical, interview question conversation when I freeze up!
Author:  Slipps [ Wed May 23, 2012 12:19 am ]
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This is old news....... I've re-discovered that women do not respond to logic really in any way at all when out in the field. Using logical conversation with women in a pickup context is suicide. in general they respond to fun, games and stirring them up (cocky funny)
I'm just after some opinions on introducing fun into my "game" since like a lot of other guys here I am guilty of resorting to logical, interview question conversation when I freeze up!
What you probably meant by that was "I've figured out that when I'm talking with people I should keep conversation focused on topics and vibes that are meaningful to them" rather than just bombard them with a question/answer format.

Interview style conversation plans often are too stilted and mechanical. It feels awkward and slightly autistic to the people on the receiving end of it. Really, to avoid this effect you need to identify what the other person is genuinely interested in so that you can begin to share. Finding those special things without going "interview mode" can be a tough skill to learn though.

Hone a way to flow towards and through topics and feelings that you and her can share and fun will come on its own. :)
Author:  Techgame [ Wed May 23, 2012 2:48 am ]
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I dunno, it works pretty well on Vulcan women.
Author:  Guidosaurus Wrecks [ Wed May 23, 2012 3:12 am ]
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I really recommend reading this article as it seems to cover what your talking about.

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/05/ ... miliarity/

Also Roosh does something he likes to call "ramble" spit a bunch of small talk towards a woman until you find a topic that you can really connect on. As long as she's in front of you your technically still in set, so rambling keeps you in and forces you to tough out the hard part of the interaction.

The best way to be more playful is to make others laugh (through sarcasm, humor, or flat out self deprecating stuff) and allow the conversation to transition. Just don't take anything too seriously and you'll find your way through these situations no problem.

Added incentives?: Stress and pressure create wrinkles. Not caring/taking things seriously is actually good for your health!
Author:  0uch [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:20 am ]
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you have to have a mixture of logic and emotional convo. Is not just one or the other.
Author:  SexAddict911 [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:05 am ]
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MEN vs WOMEN
Author:  poeticlyskuac [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:46 am ]
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Emotion is the center of human existence, it is how we make every decision. There is no different in the emotion felt by a man and emotion felt by a woman. Emotion sets up a different type of connection. It's always good to remember that positive emotion influences to want more of something(like you). I'm a huge fan of making someone smile and laugh in my opinion it's a human's biggest super power, their ability to make people smile and laugh.

Smiling and laughing makes people associate a good feeling with you, they like you and thus you become attractive. In almost every poll women rank a good sense of humor in the top 5 traits a man should have.

Both men and women make decisions based on emotion. Regardless of sex we choose what feels right, never what feels wrong. It's a common misconception that men and women decide differently. The difference is a guy lights up when he hears the stats to a car and that is one of the reasons he feels so good or likes it.

A woman on the other hand will in a lot of cases be more set on the feeling brought on by a first impression. She will decide not to like a car based off of emotion. There is a That 70's Show where Red is learning to sell and Kitty teaches him that people need to be told what they want. Women decided based on color on the show, I'd agree with the thoughts on it. Basically men and women both decide based on emotion but men and women are turned on by different things, aesthetics vs. facts.

That is just based off my studies of decision making.
Author:  SexAddict911 [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:34 pm ]
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Emotion is the center of human existence, it is how we make every decision. There is no different in the emotion felt by a man and emotion felt by a woman. Emotion sets up a different type of connection. It's always good to remember that positive emotion influences to want more of something(like you). I'm a huge fan of making someone smile and laugh in my opinion it's a human's biggest super power, their ability to make people smile and laugh.

Smiling and laughing makes people associate a good feeling with you, they like you and thus you become attractive. In almost every poll women rank a good sense of humor in the top 5 traits a man should have.

Both men and women make decisions based on emotion. Regardless of sex we choose what feels right, never what feels wrong. It's a common misconception that men and women decide differently. The difference is a guy lights up when he hears the stats to a car and that is one of the reasons he feels so good or likes it.

A woman on the other hand will in a lot of cases be more set on the feeling brought on by a first impression. She will decide not to like a car based off of emotion. There is a That 70's Show where Red is learning to sell and Kitty teaches him that people need to be told what they want. Women decided based on color on the show, I'd agree with the thoughts on it. Basically men and women both decide based on emotion but men and women are turned on by different things, aesthetics vs. facts.

That is just based off my studies of decision making.
I agree completely, LAUGHTER is the greatest sound in the world, it's the ultimate emotional response and has the ability to tame anyone, even the most harsh of human beasts. Everyone on this planets loves to laugh, without getting into the scientific significance, it is the ultimate equalizer and creates instant comfort. Not only can it be used to neutralize a target or a huge set. But if you as a seducer have the power to make others laugh, you in fact have a SUPER POWER.

Being able to make someone laugh, I mean really laugh is in a sense having complete control of that person. You can dictate their frame, emotion and thought process completely into one converged pattern of happiness. You can disarmed groups of cock blocking alpha males, mother hens, as well as completely overwhelm your target at hand.

If used correctly, and with good timing, the ability to make others laugh can be one of the greatest tools in the belt of a Pick Up Artist.

Note to everyone: Be funny, make people laugh, if you are not naturally funny, work on it, at least try.
Author:  MooseMoov [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:17 am ]
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since were speaking logical here.. how about some advice on being emotional and make that laughter connection with women. lets hear some examples so people can get ideas. some people find it hard to be emotional or make girls laugh. i admit i have trouble with topics finding what to talk about or make a girl laugh sometimes.
Author:  clearspeak [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:26 am ]
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since were speaking logical here.. how about some advice on being emotional and make that laughter connection with women. lets hear some examples so people can get ideas. some people find it hard to be emotional or make girls laugh. i admit i have trouble with topics finding what to talk about or make a girl laugh sometimes.
It is interesting how the pressure to be entertaining and funny is really what performers deal with. So I think performers can be great to learn from. Imagine - they have to go up in front of people who paid money just to be entertained by them. So these people have seen all the situations and have had to develop ways to respond. I think these are the people to look to for advice.

Not that you have to become a performer in general. But just to learn from them in that aspect of things.
Author:  Lanthano [ Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:58 am ]
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We all learn this point, logic vs feeling, when it comes to dealing with women the hard way. I find it due to useless, deceitful. and just plain wrong feminist influences in approaching gender issues. I also find it perhaps due to the fact that most of us were simply never taught.

To my mind, I find it a crime that we were never taught much of the stuff we are learning now.
Author:  debovnik [ Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:08 pm ]
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this is BS

It depends on what your logical about

If your logical about telling a DTF woman you want to fuck her straight up,with no rapport or emotion, then that will work

that is an example of logic working
Author:  SLIPKNOT [ Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:59 pm ]
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this is BS

It depends on what your logical about

If your logical about telling a DTF woman you want to fuck her straight up,with no rapport or emotion, then that will work

that is an example of logic working
This is NOT bs. You are way over simplifying the obvious. When you just come and say to an HB who is DTF, "I want to fuck you straight up." You just gave her a huge emotional swing. You are not just some guy thats flirting with her hoping things go well, you are being that alpha guy she wants to take control of the situation, give her plausable deniability, and act on her hornyness without regret. If you think telling any HB including one who doesn't want to fuck, that you want to fuck her straight up, I gaurantee her her emotions just swung bigtime in one direction or another.
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