Best opener : " I want to fuck you. "

After that stay 2 feet away from her holding eye contact until she breaks.

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If she doesn't leave then stay there until she either leaves alone or with you.

That's it.

Direct game and night clubs are a no-no.

I once went out with a PUA who opened his initial set by pulling a woman's chair out from under her as she was about to sit down. Your suggestion may be 'direct,' and it could even be argued it's 'honest,' but it demonstrates about the same amount of tact, class and overall awareness of basic social skills as the guy who's yanking seats out from under unsuspecting club-goers.

And even if that weren't the case, it takes all the fun and flirting out of the interaction. Who wants that?

Your boy,
870

Direct game and night clubs are a no-no.

Lately, I feel as if direct game has been probably the most successful for louder bars or places where people have loud music and dancing. Most bars that I go to either have a live DJ, band, or a pretty noisy enviornment with music that plays in the background... Particularly in the NY area.

Anyway, I have been trying the good old opinion opener, considering that I got back into the game recently. It has given me success about 30% of the time. I feel that simply approaching a girl and saying something like "hey cool shirt... blah blah blah" then transitioning very fast, saying something like "Oh you seem really fun! What do you do on weekends? You seem like a party animal... etc." works much better in this enviornment. Talking a bit there after goes a long way as long as confidence and my intentions aren't totally masked.

I have read in several books and posts that say you generally approach a girl, then try to tell a story that shows your value and then you ask about her once she is attracted to you. I have also read the opposite, which is fitting my scenario. If you approach some girls with confidence, look good and cool and they are out to meet guys, you can actually skip through the DHV stage and ask/qualify a girl or mix it in with DHVs

Anyway, I am just wondering what you guys think about game at bars/clubs that have somewhat loud music, dancing, etc. Do you go direct commenting on girls clothes, telling girls they seem cool, asking questions about them, flirting, trying to dance, etc.? Or do you try the indirect approach? There is no real structure to "game" as long as you do it right, but in general there are some more effective scenarios for some types of game.

Best opener : " I want to fuck you. "

After that stay 2 feet away from her holding eye contact until she breaks.

------------------------------------------------

If she doesn't leave then stay there until she either leaves alone or with you.

That's it.

Direct game and night clubs are a no-no.

I once went out with a PUA who opened his initial set by pulling a woman's chair out from under her as she was about to sit down. Your suggestion may be 'direct,' and it could even be argued it's 'honest,' but it demonstrates about the same amount of tact, class and overall awareness of basic social skills as the guy who's yanking seats out from under unsuspecting club-goers.

And even if that weren't the case, it takes all the fun and flirting out of the interaction. Who wants that?

Your boy,
870

Direct game and night clubs are a no-no.