PUA Forum :: GIVING AND RECEIVING

Yes its hard for some people on seduction community to accept the fact that other has simpler, works better methods than they have.

THATS WHY you never learn something.

THATS WHY you never getting better.

What he said by 'have something to offer' is just one subtheme of DIRECT and HONEST ways to deal with woman.
You dont really have to do the same line as he said.

If you want a girl to be your girlfriend, you can start with "i want to be honest with you, i find you're attractive and i want to know you."

If you want a girl to sleep with you, just go "i want you in every position.. etc."

If you want a girl to sleep with you with additional subtheme: have something to offer, you can run the line he said at this thread.

The basic thing must be DIRECT and HONEST.

You can still focus watching the way people teach something forever or you can learn something.

Author:	Stelar [ Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:44 pm ]
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I started to browse through the "Field Reports" part of this forum and I've read some of the most idiotic things in my life. This "the community" is structured around "indirect routines and methods" , but everyone has it's own way of doing things. On the Field Reports and General section you will often see threads about " how to kiss close " , " how to get her number" , " why did she flake ?" and so on. I don't even need to read the thread to see what is the problem. All field reports follow the pattern , guy runs "game" ( Neg , DHV , etc ) , routines and all the way to the number close... then she flaked. Why do women flake ? Why can't you get laid ? It's simple. YOU ARE NOT GIVING ANYTHING , YOU ARE NOT OFFERING ANYTHING , IT'S JUST YOU TRYING TO GET SOMETHING. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Every night I go out I get laid , how is this possible ? I always know what I want and I go for it , but I am always giving or at least making offers to the women I want. If I see the woman I want to fuck I ALWAYS TELL HER RIGHT AWAY MY INTENTIONS AND I MAKE HER AN OFFER. " I AM GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU , YOU LOOK GORGEOUS AND I WANT TO OFFER YOU TONIGHT AS MANY ORGASMS AS POSSIBLE. " HAVE SOMETHING TO OFFER EVEN IF IT'S JUST SEX. Offer something in order to receive. The real advantage is that if they are not interested they will let you know right there and you can go on and do this until you find the one that is receptive. I have posted this numerous times. ADVERTISE YOURSELF AS A SEX MACHINE AND OFFER YOUR SERVICES. OFFER INSTEAD OF ASKING. ALSO DO NOT FORGET TO PERSIST. ----------------------------------------------------------- NOBODY WANTS TO BE AROUND A PERSON THAT HAS NOTHING TO OFFER. ---------------------------------------------------------- It seems that the numbers of people that are calling me a troll , kj , liar , etc is increasing. Do not worry, I won't be replying to any threads , not even my own ... I will however start threads in the PUA Lounge from time to time. You can bash me all you want.

Author:	Chris2k10 [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:29 am ]
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Great thread. Make one on called TROUBLESHOOTING as well. I am a huge sex machine and it's easier for me because I am muscular and attractive so even if I don't say the right things, I automatically come off as a fling out for pussy. Many girls like that. What they don't like is the vibe they get from me that I can get any girl I want or if I see them as being easy. "I bet you do this all the time." "You're a damn player and womanizer." Most people's environments here are on campus or during the day. Do you make the same offers during the day?

Author:	DJ_Z [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:10 am ]
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There's nothing to bash. This post is the same as the others. You are taking the same generic message and rehashing it slightly each time. Guys will support you because it sounds cool. Fortunately, just as you say you aren't responding to posts, yet just make new threads with no new information, I will actually keep my word and stop responding to your threads. Fortunately, you're just a 17 year old with an ego problem who needs validation all the time. I suggest others follow suit and not post.

Author:	Sly_Wolf [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:40 am ]
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If everything has been said then we should just stop posting here since there is nothing new, just rehashed material. Human interaction has not changed, the fundementals are the same since thousands of years. Although there is some truth in that, the point I'm trying to make is that people communicate material in different ways for us to better understand. It's like quitting smoking, some can do it cold turkey while others need a different method that works for them. They need to understand this method and know that they have the ability to pull it off because it suits their style better. They understand it better then the other methods, as effective as they are. Another note is that it's good to be reminded of certain things. There is so much going on about pick up, we tend to forget some info or not prioritize properly. It acts as a positive reinforcement as well cause most threads in this forum are motivational and positive. You feel better just reading it. A good rule in life is to recognize information that may benefit your life. This comes from experience and wisdom. If a homeless man with mental issues ends up saying something profound and true, are you just gonna ignore it because it comes from him? If so, that is very ignorant and closed minded. Good info is good no matter where it comes from just like a fact is a fact regardless of who says it.

Author:	TygaNasty [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:59 am ]
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Side Note: What you have to offer doesn't have to be just sex. For those of you who follow MM, you offer through DHV stories and what not. Basically anything indirectly DHV of yourself without coming off as a show off. You said those guys were doing negs and what not but still getting flakes. I'm going to assume that there following something similar to MM. Anyways, if you are positive that these girls flaked because they didn't offer anything, then they need to work on there DHVs... and thus offering a "Hey I'm a cool person to hang out with" vibe.

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Author:	Chris2k10 [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:09 am ]
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Author:	TygaNasty [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:16 am ]
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Author:	Chris2k10 [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:19 am ]
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Author:	GeorgePH [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:03 am ]
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The general point you're making, I agree with. You have to put yourself out there and make an offer. However, I really don't like you. Here's why. You're disrespectful to other members of this site. The tone of your opening post is incredibly condescending. You have a huge ego and don't mind telling us about it. I find all of these things profoundly unattractive, as do most people. Do your thing, but I'm not planning to read any more of your threads. I wish they'd revoke your right to make new threads, period.

Author:	baracuda [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:12 am ]
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I think stelars method works for some and not others, me personally its the best method i have found all this dhv garbage is so hard to learn an it feels scripted. Iv got the biggest balls out of anyone i know personally i have been rejected shitloads of times kicked in the balls once slapped an god knows what else. I tried this method last friday kcloses in 5 minutes i still have a bit to learn from it but it changes your mindset last week i was the shit in the place i go at 1 point i was going to girls an i didnt even have to say the lines, i was actually turning girls down because i thought i could get better looking. Im gutted im skint this weekend really wanted to fuck some girl in the toilets or somethin im giving this method a 6 month trail an by the end if it i honestly do belive i will be taking home hb10s for fun.

Author:	BlackWard [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:27 pm ]
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Yes its hard for some people on seduction community to accept the fact that other has simpler, works better methods than they have. THATS WHY you never learn something. THATS WHY you never getting better. What he said by 'have something to offer' is just one subtheme of DIRECT and HONEST ways to deal with woman. You dont really have to do the same line as he said. If you want a girl to be your girlfriend, you can start with "i want to be honest with you, i find you're attractive and i want to know you." If you want a girl to sleep with you, just go "i want you in every position.. etc." If you want a girl to sleep with you with additional subtheme: have something to offer, you can run the line he said at this thread. The basic thing must be DIRECT and HONEST. You can still focus watching the way people teach something forever or you can learn something.

Author:	Stelar [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:46 pm ]
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Quote: Yes its hard for some people on seduction community to accept the fact that other has simpler, works better methods than they have. THATS WHY you never learn something. THATS WHY you never getting better. What he said by 'have something to offer' is just one subtheme of DIRECT and HONEST ways to deal with woman. You dont really have to do the same line as he said. If you want a girl to be your girlfriend, you can start with "i want to be honest with you, i find you're attractive and i want to know you." If you want a girl to sleep with you, just go "i want you in every position.. etc." If you want a girl to sleep with you with additional subtheme: have something to offer, you can run the line he said at this thread. The basic thing must be DIRECT and HONEST. You can still focus watching the way people teach something forever or you can learn something. Good observation. Start offering and give before you receive specially when you approach. 1. You want to date or to see her again : "You look gorgeous and I want to invite you to dinner next week." 2. You want to fuck her : "I want to offer you tonight as many orgasms as possible. " BE HONEST , DIRECT AND HAVE SOMETHING TO OFFER. THE SIMPLEST SOLUTION IS ALWAYS THE BEST.

Author:	skills360 [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:33 pm ]
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What you guys fail to understand is that there is not " a on size fits all" method, while this may work for stelar, may not work for a lot of the dudes in the community, we are all different, play to your strengths and figure out what works for you...

Author:	Chris2k10 [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:19 pm ]
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Quote: What you guys fail to understand is that there is not " a on size fits all" method, while this may work for stelar, may not work for a lot of the dudes in the community, we are all different, play to your strengths and figure out what works for you... I disagree man. Maybe there's not a one size fits all to the T, but there is a general method

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