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Author:  Mr Fahrenheit [ Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Help me with fickle girl here
Ok, it's 1:30 in the morning excuse me if i mishit key n shit ok? I was hanging out with a girl tonight, and I felt so hot and on my toes, every test and comment she gave me I just smashed back. But this is where the confusing stuff happens.

Basically its a situation of mixed messages and non deliberate messages. Ok, so I have gotten tonnes of iois, eye contact iois, spoken one, prompted ones all in all I would have had at least 8 I can easily label. So i give her an easy kino hoop, crossing busy road, 'give me your hand' She threw it back in my face. Ok I can deal with that.

We're at the SPAM and she stands close to me so I close the gap our bodies are practically one. We get something to eat and we talk bout really in depth shit. She iois me more. Ok, we're at my sisters apartment playing with her kittens, shes away in fiji with bro in law. Kino hoop, come sit over this side of the couch with me! She threw it backin my face. I'm getting agitated.

So just more of this, Shes sending iois and im giving her hoops and trying to escalate. It's just not happening. So I freeze out and she dosent do anything. I give her one last hoop (this is all amid conversation) So then I go, ok we're going. It's like 10:30 and I drive home. I dont say a fucking word the whole way home and she dosent initiate conversation. Then later she texts me, going why were you being so mean at the end of the night dont you like me?

I dont know wtf happened, coz i was sending clear iois exactly when i should have and then all the confusing stuff happened. Can somebody explain thisto me? Coz i have no clue.
Author:  Roads [ Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:04 pm ]
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Were you building comfort through conversation? Remember the DHV does not stop in comfort. Keep telling stories, but get HER to open up to YOU.

How long were you with the chick?

Also, with kino, don't ask...if the vibe is there, just DO it. Shit, next time when you're walking down the street, stick out your elbow slowly and gradually push her out of her way and into some inanimate object. She'll usually notice this, jump out of the way (YOU MADE HER JUMP! HOOP THEORY 101---YOU ARE IN COMMAND), and give you a playful slug on the arm. From there, you're on.
Author:  Marco Polo [ Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help me with fickle girl here
It is very simple. She was shit testing you and you failed. Here is where:
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So i give her an easy kino hoop, crossing busy road, 'give me your hand' She threw it back in my face. Ok I can deal with that
You should`v punish this right away but you didn`t (DLV) and you continued:
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We're at the SPAM and she stands close to me so I close the gap our bodies are practically one. We get something to eat and we talk bout really in depth shit. She iois me more
Where is escalation?
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Ok, we're at my sisters apartment playing with her kittens, shes away in fiji with bro in law. Kino hoop, come sit over this side of the couch with me! She threw it backin my face. I'm getting agitated.
Another shit test! Where is punishment?
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So just more of this, Shes sending iois and im giving her hoops and trying to escalate. It's just not happening. So I freeze out and she dosent do anything.
Of course, what did you expect. She`s been shit testing you all evening, you were constantly failing and DLV-ing and now you expect escalation? No way!

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I dont know wtf happened, coz i was sending clear iois exactly when i should have and then all the confusing stuff happened. Can somebody explain thisto me? Coz i have no clue.

Look, its obvious you fucked up. You were to wussy and nice guy. You`v dragged that date way to much. After first shit test you were suppossed to make sure that she becomes aware that you don`t tolerate shit and if she doesn`t want to make you dump her (for that evening) she has to play by your rules. You did that in the end where you stopped talking and drove her home. Never alove the girl to run the show. You must be the one who will start soemthing and more important, who will finish something.

Just be strong to fuck her off if she behaves like a brat. She`ll come back next day with totally different attitude!
Author:  T8SIG92 [ Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:11 am ]
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ok, Marco Polo, what do you mean by punishment? what would you do in each of those situations??

thanks
Author:  Marco Polo [ Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:48 am ]
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ok, Marco Polo, what do you mean by punishment? what would you do in each of those situations??

thanks
Ok!¨One by one:
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So i give her an easy kino hoop, crossing busy road, 'give me your hand' She threw it back in my face.[/quote]

This was maybe calibrated wrong but if she was sending IOI`s then she is shit testing and he should cut it from the start, here is how I would do:

Marco: Why did you do that?
Girl: What?
Marco: Behaving like a brat. I am in great mood for cuddling and if you do this one more time you can go home and stop waisting my time. Now come here and lick my neck!

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We're at the SPAM and she stands close to me so I close the gap our bodies are practically one.
Where is escalation? It was a perfect situation for kino but no, after that he goes like this:
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We get something to eat and we talk bout really in depth shit.
Wtf???

The worst shit test is still to come:
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Ok, we're at my sisters apartment playing with her kittens, shes away in fiji with bro in law. Kino hoop, come sit over this side of the couch with me! She threw it backin my face. I'm getting agitated.
Then our buddy continues with this:
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So just more of this, Shes sending iois and im giving her hoops and trying to escalate. It's just not happening. So I freeze out and she dosent do anything. I give her one last hoop (this is all amid conversation)
.. and I would go like this:

Situation: Kino hoop, come sit over this side of the couch with me! She threw it backin my face.

Marco: OK, thats it, leave!
Girl: What??
Marco: Go home!
Girl: Why, what did I do?
Marco: Leave now, walk home, think about this and if you figure it out, call me tomorow. If not, farewell and good luck!
Girl: Marco, please, lets talk!
Marco: By!¨


Be damn right sure that if she calls you back (and it will happen in 80% of time), she will NEVER fck with shit testing you again, or at least if you strongly continue with displaying stronger frame.

If she doesn`t calls back, let it be. No matter how good she is, this Alpha attitude will bring you more chicks and you will hardly fall in one itis.

If you have any other Q`s, shoot, I`ll be glad to answer! :wink:
Author:  T8SIG92 [ Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:53 pm ]
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ok, i see what you mean. those are some good ideas. i wish i could come up with things to say like that spontaneously. im not a very good socializer
Author:  Numen [ Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:18 pm ]
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hey man. I think the areas you failed here were comfort building and shit tests. you couldn't build comfort because you handled the shit tests improperly. As you said "every test and comment she gave me I just smashed back." The problem with handling them all this way is that you seem stand offish and pretentious because everything she says you have a comment for which can cause problems with comfort building. In addition, when you crossed the street and said hold my hand, that wasn't a shit test she gave you, that was frustration about being treated like a little girl (even though this wasn't your intention).

when you get a shit test the first thing you have to do is make sure it is one to start with as many people make the mistake of seeing general conversation and questions as shit tests and blowing it. If it is a shit test, you only have to pass it, not throw it back in their faces.

In terms of this girl, she was a little rigid because you started kino before you built comfort.

good luck and let us know how this goes
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