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Author:  Fratguysargesbest [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:59 am ]
Post subject:  How to protect my groupies
Hello Forum

I am the social chair of my brotherhood in a northern California university. My girlfriend and my female friends are often approached by PUAs who don't know what the hell they are doing, make an embarassment of themselves and their arts, and often ended up getting punched.

Now, for risk management reason we would like to punch them a little bit less, and I've personally took up the mission to one up their game. I've brief experience in the art of PUA community although I never read any specific materials. I had brief experience sarging in Mexico during springbreak.

Now, here is my question. How can I, when my groupies are being sarged and look obviously uncomfortable, counter-sarge by DHV, or at least use a civilized hint to let the other players know that a man of higher value is in the house?
Author:  Marco Polo [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How to protect my groupies
Hello Forum
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I am the social chair of my brotherhood in a northern California university. My girlfriend and my female friends are often approached by PUAs who don't know what the hell they are doing, make an embarassment of themselves and their arts, and often ended up getting punched.
Those are PUA wannabees, a.k.a. AFC`s :D

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Now, here is my question.
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How can I, when my groupies are being sarged and look obviously uncomfortable, counter-sarge by DHV, or at least use a civilized hint to let the other players know that a man of higher value is in the house?
The best way to AMOG other guys (and thats what you want to do) is not to pick a fight with them, or being rude to them. You could get hurt doing that :D . You must be the MAN, your jokes must be funnier then those of other guys, your stories more interesting, your body language more dominant, your power to make girls (especially yours) more horny, stronger, etc. You got the picture? If you do that, your girls will blow other guys by them selves, you won`t even have to bother with dealing with them directly. If you are not capable of doing this, well, fuck it, the better man beat you. Then, you can make him your buddy cause he probably knows many nice girls also and you can also "steal" girls from his social circle (new guy syndrom).

I hope it helped! :wink:
Author:  saqchek [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:33 pm ]
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You sound like the "Nice Guy" AFC trying to protect all the innocent little girls. Listen man, back the fuck up and let the PUAs make fools of themselves. If anything, you should be laughing your ass off. I would seeing them get shot down left and right. Trust me, those "groupies" you are with know how to handle themselves and they don't need AFCs like you trying to guard them. If shit gets out of hand, then sure, step in and do what you need to do. Otherwise, tell your groupies that they are grown women and can handle themselves.
Author:  Thugnificient [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:59 pm ]
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You won't have to worry about protecting your groupies.

Cuz When somebody like me comes through I'll be happy to take them off your hands for you.
Author:  The Wild One [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:08 pm ]
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Just tell the guy to leave them alone or take the girls somewhere else. It's not that hard especially if they're not enjoying the conversation.
Author:  saqchek [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:22 pm ]
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Just tell the guy to leave them alone or take the girls somewhere else. It's not that hard especially if they're not enjoying the conversation.
Makes him seem like a AFC jerkoff to me. A huge sign of insecurity. Now, if they are harassing the women or being flat out rude to them, then yeah.
Author:  Fratguysargesbest [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:14 pm ]
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I actualy made all my groupies read this forum(especially the field report section, stuff's pure gold). What I would usually do is pull the guy aside and just point out the flaw in his game, and there's flaw in everyone's game. The moment you start recycling a routine from a published source, there's your flaw right there.
Author:  Fratguysargesbest [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:26 pm ]
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I mean, there are usually two types of guys at our social functions.

Type 1: They HAVE higher social values. They are good in sport, good in leadership, or maybe was serving on USS Nimitz or something. They got good stories, and they don't have to recite material from books because they got them. They demostrated higher values by competiting with MEN in the arena of leadership. I respect them, and hell, I'll introduce my sister to them.

Type 2: They go from girl to girl, do the absolute SAME thing over and over. Sometimes they got lucky and got to makeout with some drunk girl, but she probably won't call him back. Most of our girls became uncomfortable to them (I guess they learned how to tell the material from the real thing since many of them have been with type 1 in a long term basis.

I had a guy pull the kino on my hookup one night while I was serving drinks. So I just let my girls left first, told the guy to never come again, make a huge public mess (it's not cool to punch your guest, we have to uphold our gentlemenly image), and went to my girl's place. She was easier to comfort though. I just asked her one question

"Dude was a creep, wasn't him"
"Yeah"

But as I said, I can't punch out every single guy (although in my experience, guys bigger than me are swimming in women that they don't have time to learn the art), and I don't want to make our brotherhood look bad. So, what's a good way to let to AMOG the other guy while sublting letting him know that our brotherhood don't welcome sarges (It goes against our creed).
Author:  L.A. Tripp [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:56 pm ]
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What is your brotherhood, sexist or something? It's against your creed to allows sarges? Might as well keep ALL the men away from ALL of your "groupies" then. That's the only way you will keep guys from hitting on or trying to pick up your "groupies".

Sorry, but what you are saying is not making a lot of sense.

And, it's already been told to you, the one way to AMOG the other guys. DHV YOURSELF!
Author:  Fratguysargesbest [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:14 pm ]
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What is your brotherhood, sexist or something? It's against your creed to allows sarges? Might as well keep ALL the men away from ALL of your "groupies" then. That's the only way you will keep guys from hitting on or trying to pick up your "groupies".

Sorry, but what you are saying is not making a lot of sense.

And, it's already been told to you, the one way to AMOG the other guys. DHV YOURSELF!
let me clarify. It's not against our creed to approach the ladies. However, it is against our creed to protray yourself as something you are not (dishonesty), as well as to treat others without respect. I am against those who use a set routine and use them over and over again, even to the point of dishonest,or to "fabricate" the appearance of having higher value AMONG man. Also, many amateur PUAs lack respect for others. I wish to kick those out without the actual kicking.

Don't get me wrong, I am all for the community, for I too practice the art myself. I just wish to cleanse its darkside of exploitation and emotional abuse against women.
Author:  Arkitekt [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:47 pm ]
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Out of curiosity, when you say "punch", do you mean it in the metaphorical or literal sense?

If literally, as in you physically punch or fight these guys, how exactly does it escalate to that?
Author:  Fratguysargesbest [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:04 pm ]
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Out of curiosity, when you say "punch", do you mean it in the metaphorical or literal sense?

If literally, as in you physically punch or fight these guys, how exactly does it escalate to that?
When your friend comes up and say "can you get that creep out?", you and a bunch of guys head down, see a man, ask him to leave, and he wouldn't, physical confrontations tend to ensue.
Author:  saqchek [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:55 pm ]
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Out of curiosity, when you say "punch", do you mean it in the metaphorical or literal sense?

If literally, as in you physically punch or fight these guys, how exactly does it escalate to that?
When your friend comes up and say "can you get that creep out?", you and a bunch of guys head down, see a man, ask him to leave, and he wouldn't, physical confrontations tend to ensue.
Be alpha:


HB: Fratguysargesbest, can you get that creep out?
Fratguysargesbest: What's he doing?
HB: He's talking to us and trying to hit on us.
Fratguysargesbest: Is he calling you names or being disrespectful?
HB: no
Fratguysargesbest: Is he touching you?
HB: no
Fratguysargesbest: Seems to me you can handle it on your own. Just tell him to leave, and if he doesn't then let me know at that point. Also, if he is rude, disrespects you, or touches you, then let me know and I'll go have a talk with him.


Quit jumping through their hoops man.


ps. Let them read that shit. 8)
Author:  L.A. Tripp [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:13 pm ]
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What is your brotherhood, sexist or something? It's against your creed to allows sarges? Might as well keep ALL the men away from ALL of your "groupies" then. That's the only way you will keep guys from hitting on or trying to pick up your "groupies".

Sorry, but what you are saying is not making a lot of sense.

And, it's already been told to you, the one way to AMOG the other guys. DHV YOURSELF!
let me clarify. It's not against our creed to approach the ladies. However, it is against our creed to protray yourself as something you are not (dishonesty), as well as to treat others without respect. I am against those who use a set routine and use them over and over again, even to the point of dishonest,or to "fabricate" the appearance of having higher value AMONG man. Also, many amateur PUAs lack respect for others. I wish to kick those out without the actual kicking.

Don't get me wrong, I am all for the community, for I too practice the art myself. I just wish to cleanse its darkside of exploitation and emotional abuse against women.
It's against your creed to be dishonest. Well, guess what. Most people in life don't like dishonesty. That's a noble cause there, but you can't completely prevent it. We, in this community, don't like people being something they are not, and we don't promote that, but it still happens. We'd much prefer guys and girls were shown respect. But that doesn't always happen because you deal with people. You need to learn that fact right now, while you're in college.

You are against using a set routine over and over again? So, in other words you want to control how people think and behave? Well, controlling behavior, to an extent is understandable. Controlling how people think? Not so much.

Fabricating higher value. Either you mean guys reworking their real life stories to show DHV spikes, which is actually a good thing, as long as the story is still true, or you mean a guy just flat out making something up. Again, the real way to fight that is to show a higher value YOURSELF. If YOU truly hold the higher value, the girls won't even entertain those other guys. So, apparently you really don't hold the higher value? Since you're worried that these guys will run off with your "groupies"?

You want to kick out amateur PUA's who lack respect. Guess what. We all started at that point at some time in our lives. So, you wanted people to have patience with you in certain areas as you learn and grow. You need to give your patience to others, and help them to learn and grow, instead of being an ass about it and just kicking them out. Show them where they are going wrong, and help them to correct it. If, at THAT point, they don't want to grow, then I can understand not wanting them around. And the way to handle that . . . I'll say it again, is for YOU to demonstrate higher value.
Author:  The Wild One [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:44 pm ]
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Just tell the guy to leave them alone or take the girls somewhere else. It's not that hard especially if they're not enjoying the conversation.
Makes him seem like a AFC jerkoff to me. A huge sign of insecurity. Now, if they are harassing the women or being flat out rude to them, then yeah.
It's not afc to take the girls away from an uncomfortable situation. Also if he is bothering them to much you should have the balls to say something. Girls respect a man that can bust someones balls if need be. Haven't you ever seen Goodfellas?
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