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Author:  Allahz Apostle [ Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:49 am ]
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Do not give all your power, money, and self respect to the beautiful women. You can give them rewards, but only when they earn them. Why invest so much in a stranger? Get to know her first. Find out if you would actually want her to mother your child.

You must do what you wanna do. Don't ask her what she feels like eating. Tell her you're gonna take her for some chinese food. Again this is for strange women. Treat your queens right.

Author:  Ay Bay Bay [ Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:28 am ]
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Cool story bro.

Can I have another?

Author:  Allahz Apostle [ Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:14 am ]
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It'll cost you.

Author:  Lodewijkp [ Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:26 pm ]
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it's really sad that like 90 % of the parents don't say this to their children ..
.. put yourself first...

most people shouldn't have children and should be weeded out by natural selection.

Author:  Ezo [ Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:06 pm ]
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it's really sad that like 90 % of the parents don't say this to their children ..
.. put yourself first...

most people shouldn't have children and should be weeded out by natural selection.
And too many people tell them exactly this and forget to add "but other people matter too. You also gotta consider their feelings and opinions."

Some quotes you guys should consider:

"If you want to know what a man's like, take a good look at how he treats his inferiors, not his equals." - Sirius Black, Goblet of fire

"With great power comes great responsability" - Uncle Ben, Spiderman

Author:  Lodewijkp [ Sun Dec 18, 2011 2:27 pm ]
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pff .. their feelings are their own responsiblity..

i have considered peoples feelings more than everyone else on this whole forum and i got burned many times ..

people take shit for granted.. they don't give a fuck in general...
put yourself #1... just don't be a dick or asshole

with great power comes alot of hate .. people will start hating you and alot of woman will be attracted to you because you have something the don't have.. People don't give a fuck how good you are - they want to point fingers and blame someone when shit hits the fan.

Author:  Ezo [ Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:36 pm ]
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pff .. their feelings are their own responsiblity..

i have considered peoples feelings more than everyone else on this whole forum and i got burned many times ..

people take shit for granted.. they don't give a fuck in general...
put yourself #1... just don't be a dick or asshole

with great power comes alot of hate .. people will start hating you and alot of woman will be attracted to you because you have something the don't have.. People don't give a fuck how good you are - they want to point fingers and blame someone when shit hits the fan.
That depends on how you use that power but sure many will be jealous.

When I stopped caring about other peoples feelings my game got 2 times better but when I started caring again it got 10 times better. It all depends on how far you have come.

Author:  Allahz Apostle [ Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:55 pm ]
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I think Ezo makes some very valid points.

I believe that you should respect everyone until they give you a reason not to. That includes their right to disagree and have a different point of view. We just can't an be a doormat for everybody. Place yourself first, loved ones at a close second, friends third, and strangers last. If a girl wants to be with me, then I make her rise in rank.

Lode makes some good points too. People will take you for granted, especially friends or relatives. Guess it's just because we're alway there, so they grow accustomed. At the end of the day, when everyones gone home, it's just us.

I remember so many times I blazed with people just to make them happy. Burn my whole sack, then have no stash for later. I'm glad to do it for friends that burn while I was broke, but gotta be cold on others.

Author:  Lodewijkp [ Sun Dec 18, 2011 6:37 pm ]
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Surround yourself with those that reinvest in you, whether it be friends or relationships. Being a giving person is an easy way to tell who you should keep around and who should be delegated to the 'acquaintanceship' label.
funny how people re-invest with secret motives...

im the guy who gives about people... i can cry with people who turn out to have a disease.. or i can relate to people with problems and really care about them.

on the other hand i can easily shoot someone in the head without really caring... doesn't matter who it is.. family , woman or friends..

which one of those is the natural me .. guess..

Author:  Ezo [ Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:03 pm ]
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Surround yourself with those that reinvest in you, whether it be friends or relationships. Being a giving person is an easy way to tell who you should keep around and who should be delegated to the 'acquaintanceship' label.
funny how people re-invest with secret motives...

im the guy who gives about people... i can cry with people who turn out to have a disease.. or i can relate to people with problems and really care about them.

on the other hand i can easily shoot someone in the head without really caring... doesn't matter who it is.. family , woman or friends..

which one of those is the natural me .. guess..
I am not sure how I should take this post. Is it highly disturbing, exaggerated or just what you think you want to be like?

Author:  mi1ooo98 [ Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:08 pm ]
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I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "I can shoot someone in the head" can you elaborate on this point?

Author:  "The Gift" [ Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:10 pm ]
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Surround yourself with those that reinvest in you, whether it be friends or relationships. Being a giving person is an easy way to tell who you should keep around and who should be delegated to the 'acquaintanceship' label.
funny how people re-invest with secret motives...

im the guy who gives about people... i can cry with people who turn out to have a disease.. or i can relate to people with problems and really care about them.

on the other hand i can easily shoot someone in the head without really caring... doesn't matter who it is.. family , woman or friends..

which one of those is the natural me .. guess..
Dude...what the?

Shooting your own family in the head, without caring is not a good trait to have.

Author:  mi1ooo98 [ Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:33 pm ]
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Hopefully we're taking this out of context.

Author:  Lodewijkp [ Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:17 pm ]
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Post removed for violation of forum rules. - Mod

Author:  Ch1mera [ Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:18 am ]
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I run a "few" tests to check if a girl is worth investing in and is ready for a serious LTR/is relationship material. Dunno, maybe this will help somebody.

These tests do not improve your relationship with the girl, in fact, it can be detrimental! It simply ensures that you aren't entering a serious relationship doomed to certain failure. Be AFC for these exercises, do not try and sugar-coat it with your PUA sweet talk, you want to see if when you are at your worse, she would still be there for you. Sometimes we lose our grip on an evidence-based and objective-view of the girl in question; this test fulfils that purpose before we end up
too deep in something we regret!
Be warned, if it turns out that your girl isn't relationship material, these tests could easily drive her away!

Bare essential characteristics all healthy, successful relationships have in common:
Mutual respect
Trust
Commitment
Good communication
Flexibility

Bare minimum essential qualities in a LTR-material girl:
Giving/caring nature
Reasonable confidence, self-esteem
Integrity

Characteristics being assessed:
Level of respect for you, integrity: choose a day where you know she won't be out doing stuff. Text her all day and be a little AFC on purpose - most straightforward way is to ask for validation basically! Stuff like "ugh I look horrible today, what do you think?" or "do you mind if I meet some friends today?". Then, that night, you spontaneously ring her at a reasonable time.
Pass:
- Picks up the phone and makes an effort to maintain the conversation, doesn't flake.
- Rings you back/texts you enquiring as to why you rang same night.
Fail:
- Anything less such as texting you the next day with a crummy excuse!

Giving/caring nature, level of respect for you: having arranged a meeting, ask her on the morning if she could pick up something from town for you that costs around £5 e.g. a movie. Make sure she has to go out of her way (be reasonable) to get it. Don't mention anything about paying her for it unless she asks.
Pass:
- Does what you ask without a fuss.
- Does what you ask after you tell her you will pay her for it.
Fail:
- Doesn't do it, fail her no matter what the reason she gives you.

Level of commitment, flexibility: tell her that you have had a horrible day and you'd really like her to come do _______ (replace blank with either something that you know she doesn't enjoy/she has never done) with you and that it would really cheer you up. If she asks if you could do something else, explain that this is the only thing you want to do right now.
Pass:
- She does it, doesn't sulk and makes an effort to cheer you up.
- She explains why she can't do it that day, but suggests alternative plans without prompting and/or tries to cheer you up another way.
Fail:
- Doesn't do one of the above.

Level of respect for you, commitment, confidence, communication skills: ask her once to organize a meal sometime, at home or out, during a week, when you know she isn't busy, where you can meet some of her friends. Make sure she knows it's important. Do not prompt her/remind her about it - let her decide where/when and do not take the lead.
Pass:
- She organizes it, informs you about the arrangements and it happens.
Fail:
- It doesn't happen, doesn't matter what the reason is, she "forgot" or "had no money" are not good enough reasons!

If she passes all of these tests then you are on to a potential winner! If she fails ONE then she's borderline, be very very careful about entering a serious relationship with this girl. If she fails MORE THAN ONE then she is not ready for a serious relationship with you/isn't relationship material! Do not rationalize her excuses, it is her flaking you. Either stay casual if you can handle it, or get out if you feel oneitis setting in or you are losing frame control.

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