PUA Forum :: Behavior pattern I would call "Genetical Hacking

Hey guys,

through all the years, I noticed that many girls in company of their BF give very clear IOIs and EC with that seductive look. It comes in many variations - up to ECing over BF's shoulder between kisses and stuff. I also know that many SNLs were definitely not single. As I do not go for slutty girls - I don't judge them, it's just not my taste - many of them were of the faithful and well-educated type.

This led me to develop a concept that females seem use that I call genetic hacking. In short:
Step #1:
- get a high value, but easily controllable partner that will ensure food and shelter
- this is why women frequently try to betaize their partners during a LTR - only if she is dominant, she can control the flow of resources to her kids

Step #2:
- integrate high value genetics by mating with other men that have desirable attributes
- maintain LTR and raise these kids with the help of the unsuspecting partner

I call it hacking because it's an inside job of using the resources the partner spends to spread his own genes to combine the female genes with even higher-value sperm

I had this discussed with several women and they basically agreed to the concept. In my opinion, this is one reason why high-speed makeouts with guys that are NOT part of the social circle can happen. Grab the sperm and run, and don't tell anyone.

I think the reason this evolved is due to social structures of mankind: survival in human society is not only dependend on good genes, but on a good social status. Social status did not only come from achievements, but from familiy lines. Tribes, kingdoms, whatever you call them are present in all societies and all times known to history. Most of them have a concept of being born as leader/king in one way or the other - sometimes with a detour via religion.

Kings and Counts never starved during famines. So it might be a good genetic spreading technique to have a LTR with a man of inferiour sperm quality, but good social status, and mate with that poor peasant boy with a bright mind and an impressive body.

Is there a scientific name for this effect? Opinions?

Author:	TBolt [ Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:38 pm ]
Post subject:	Behavior pattern I would call "Genetical Hacking - opinions?
Hey guys, through all the years, I noticed that many girls in company of their BF give very clear IOIs and EC with that seductive look. It comes in many variations - up to ECing over BF's shoulder between kisses and stuff. I also know that many SNLs were definitely not single. As I do not go for slutty girls - I don't judge them, it's just not my taste - many of them were of the faithful and well-educated type. This led me to develop a concept that females seem use that I call genetic hacking. In short: Step #1: - get a high value, but easily controllable partner that will ensure food and shelter - this is why women frequently try to betaize their partners during a LTR - only if she is dominant, she can control the flow of resources to her kids Step #2: - integrate high value genetics by mating with other men that have desirable attributes - maintain LTR and raise these kids with the help of the unsuspecting partner I call it hacking because it's an inside job of using the resources the partner spends to spread his own genes to combine the female genes with even higher-value sperm I had this discussed with several women and they basically agreed to the concept. In my opinion, this is one reason why high-speed makeouts with guys that are NOT part of the social circle can happen. Grab the sperm and run, and don't tell anyone. I think the reason this evolved is due to social structures of mankind: survival in human society is not only dependend on good genes, but on a good social status. Social status did not only come from achievements, but from familiy lines. Tribes, kingdoms, whatever you call them are present in all societies and all times known to history. Most of them have a concept of being born as leader/king in one way or the other - sometimes with a detour via religion. Kings and Counts never starved during famines. So it might be a good genetic spreading technique to have a LTR with a man of inferiour sperm quality, but good social status, and mate with that poor peasant boy with a bright mind and an impressive body. Is there a scientific name for this effect? Opinions?

Author:	zzzz [ Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:10 am ]
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I don't agree. I think it comes down to them validating their own attractiveness and desirability. Which is something that can go missing an a LTR as passionate love turns more into a family style love.

Author:	Slip n Slide [ Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:50 am ]
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It's possible. It'd be completely subconscious, so no girl would ever admit to it. It'd be interesting to see a study but I've never heard of one and can't imagine how to conduct it.

Author:	Kalel [ Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:39 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Behavior pattern I would call "Genetical Hacking - opinions?
Quote: Hey guys, through all the years, I noticed that many girls in company of their BF give very clear IOIs and EC with that seductive look. It comes in many variations - up to ECing over BF's shoulder between kisses and stuff. I also know that many SNLs were definitely not single. As I do not go for slutty girls - I don't judge them, it's just not my taste - many of them were of the faithful and well-educated type. This led me to develop a concept that females seem use that I call genetic hacking. In short: Step #1: - get a high value, but easily controllable partner that will ensure food and shelter - this is why women frequently try to betaize their partners during a LTR - only if she is dominant, she can control the flow of resources to her kids Step #2: - integrate high value genetics by mating with other men that have desirable attributes - maintain LTR and raise these kids with the help of the unsuspecting partner I call it hacking because it's an inside job of using the resources the partner spends to spread his own genes to combine the female genes with even higher-value sperm I had this discussed with several women and they basically agreed to the concept. In my opinion, this is one reason why high-speed makeouts with guys that are NOT part of the social circle can happen. Grab the sperm and run, and don't tell anyone. I think the reason this evolved is due to social structures of mankind: survival in human society is not only dependend on good genes, but on a good social status. Social status did not only come from achievements, but from familiy lines. Tribes, kingdoms, whatever you call them are present in all societies and all times known to history. Most of them have a concept of being born as leader/king in one way or the other - sometimes with a detour via religion. Kings and Counts never starved during famines. So it might be a good genetic spreading technique to have a LTR with a man of inferiour sperm quality, but good social status, and mate with that poor peasant boy with a bright mind and an impressive body. Is there a scientific name for this effect? Opinions? This sounds a lot like the stuff in "Red Queen" about provider/lover. On how women have one man to provide for them and their offspring, but they cheat on him in order to get better genes from another higher value male; so the the provider ends up taking care of the lover's offspring. Apparently it is in their genes because women are more likely to get pregnant when they are cheating, than during monogamous sex. I think this stuff is called anthropological psychology, and it's the study of how our evolution and distant past formed certain parts of out modern psychology and behavior patterns.

Author:	jurupa [ Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:56 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Behavior pattern I would call "Genetical Hacking - opinions?
Quote: - integrate high value genetics by mating with other men that have desirable attributes - maintain LTR and raise these kids with the help of the unsuspecting partner Sounds like entrapment to me. Quote: I had this discussed with several women and they basically agreed to the concept. In my opinion, this is one reason why high-speed makeouts with guys that are NOT part of the social circle can happen. Grab the sperm and run, and don't tell anyone. And such things carry negative consequences in society. Quote: Social status did not only come from achievements, but from familiy lines. It is actually both. Look at the social status of Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. Both came from pretty average families and yet both have achieve greatness on their own. Quote: Is there a scientific name for this effect? I call it social engineering. Quote: Opinions? There is no doubt that girls seek out guys with good traits/genes/etc. And this practice very much goes on today. Tho with today's world the way it is I think girls are finding things not so easy. Just look at how many single moms are out there. Combine that with the various economic factors and the whole gender balance thing becomes out of whack. Which I think is what is somewhat happening now.

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Author:	skills360 [ Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:16 pm ]
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Crazy talk, why do people make simple things(getting girls) so complicated.

Author:	jurupa [ Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:54 am ]
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Because people like me like to analyze/study/etc human behavior for fun.

Author:	TBolt [ Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:19 pm ]
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Quote: Crazy talk, why do people make simple things(getting girls) so complicated. It's not about getting girls here. It's like jurupa said - I like to study human behavior - just for fun :)

Author:	TBolt [ Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:25 pm ]
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Hey guys, thanks for your opinions! >Slip n Slide: yeah I would copy that - and I also think that it's impossible to get some sort of study on that. >Kalel: never heard about Red Queen - worth reading it? > jurupa: about negative consequences: NO, that's the point - what I am talking about happens in an environment where society does not have a clue what's going on. No affairs, just very quick lays, during a holiday, or literally at the side of the street.

Author:	jurupa [ Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:49 am ]
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Quote: > jurupa: about negative consequences: NO, that's the point - what I am talking about happens in an environment where society does not have a clue what's going on. No affairs, just very quick lays, during a holiday, or literally at the side of the street. Other people don' t need to know whats going on for an affair to take place. As far as society not having a clue, well it will find out sooner or later via some means. As the girl will tell her girl friends or tell her boyfriend or husband or one reason or another. It can be out of spite, feeling guilty, form of empowerment, etc.

Author:	Kalel [ Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:20 am ]
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I take it back, I don't think this theory was in "Red Queen", I think it may have been in "Sperm Wars: Infidelity, Sexual Conflict, and Other Bedroom Battles" by "Robin Baker". Very good book that will change your perspective of women in general and their ability to be faithful.

Author:	TBolt [ Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:15 pm ]
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Quote: I take it back, I don't think this theory was in "Red Queen", I think it may have been in "Sperm Wars: Infidelity, Sexual Conflict, and Other Bedroom Battles" by "Robin Baker". Very good book that will change your perspective of women in general and their ability to be faithful. Thanks for the reading tip, bro! On my way to amazon... :)

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