PUA Forum :: Cockblocking

A guy tried to cockblock / AMOG me last night.

I wear a key around my neck, and he pulled on it asking what it is. And he pulled in a really hard assholey manor. So much so that the knot at the back released, and due to the force he was pulling it with, his bodyweight shifted, he dropped his pint, and it smashed all over the floor. He defeated himself, game set and match.

I wouldn't call it cockblocking, I'd just call it AMOGing...it works really well, though it's more of a situational thing unless you're in a club than you can AMOG almost anyone.

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I wouldn't call it cockblocking, I'd just call it AMOGing...it works really well, though it's more of a situational thing unless you're in a club than you can AMOG almost anyone.

I disagree Ray, and here's why.

IMO it's not alpha to cock block..

It's DLV.

It's an unwritten rule among alphas, especially among chivalrous, self confident and true alphas, that chicks are certainly free to make up their own minds about which guys they want to associate with without interference, within the bounds of proper social conduct.

Such interference that has the potential to end up expressed in the form of a fist sandwich.

Point being, they're just women. And there's another one coming around every corner. They aren't worth fighting over, unless you're married or something.

And those who don't understand such simple concepts shouldn't be considered AMOG's. Just azholes.

Yep, jealous, envious, sore loser types that are DLV is a better description. They're often drunk, causing trouble and butting into situations where they don't belong. And everybody including the woman usually knows it.

On the other hand, if a guy comes along and captures my target with better technique, etc.., I simply shake his hand and excuse myself. The choice is of course the ladies.

Such gentlemanly behavior maybe somewhat of a lost art, and harkens back to the secret society (PMZ members look for my next downloadable ebook on this subject). But if you have it, the ladies who are worth knowing, know who you are. And you very rarely lose out to another guy. Especially one that displays such insecurities.

I disagree, lately I've been putting Tyler D concepts into play and it's been working out really good for me since it compliments my asshole persona and I seem to think a lot like that guy. While cock blocking to me is a sin, stealing a set is not. Why? Well for one it's an immediate DHV for me, DLV, for the other guy, and instantly gives me social proof. The whole point of this is to make the other guy look bad by having him try waaaayyy to hard to gain rapport with me and give him little to none and make him come off as beta for overqualifying himself to you.

I don't do it all the time, it's just a technique incase another Alpha is an obstacle in a set I wish to approach and winning him over isn't an option.

While I see where you're coming from especially since I didn't give enough information I came off the wrong way.

Author:	L.A. Tripp [ Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:21 pm ]
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Yes, the dreaded word! Well, guess what . . . you guys can actually use this to YOUR ADVANTAGE! Ok, here's the deal. Literally any one of us can use it to our advantage, BUT if you have AA, you SHOULD use this technique to your advantage because it should help your AA tremendously! Here's how it works, in a nutshell: You see a set of girls (2 set, 3 set, whatever) that has a guy trying to cut in or open them, and you see that they DON'T WANT THAT GUY THERE. You simply ask them if they need company, or help. Most likely, they will say yes in order to . . . COCKBLOCK that guy. Well, you've just opened the set, and they will willingly take you in completely in order to throw this guy off. Now, all you have to do is build attraction and comfort. I swear, you won't believe how easy this is. Trust me. I did it myself Saturday night.

Author:	Valence [ Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:29 pm ]
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Sets being assaulted from AFCs happens all of the time. There are many ways to use this to your advantage. I have never asked them if they want company or help, I just assume based off of the sets body language. If they are throwing IODs that you can recognize then open the set as if you know them. Hey Sarah, how are you doing. Make up a fake story about her cat and AMOG and blockout (put your body between them) and the guy. If she goes along with the story (you did read her body language correctly, right) then she is showing you an IOI. After the guy leaves, neg them for having problems with the guy and being uncomfortable. Neg her about her 'cat'. I do this at every opportunity that I have when I notice it. If the girl says that is not her name, then eject. You read her body language wrong (or she is stupid) L.A. Tripp, I get the feeling that you had a little AA and you were surprised that it worked......

Author:	L.A. Tripp [ Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:22 am ]
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Actually, no Valence. To be honest, I wasn't even looking at that two set as one I wanted to open. I just noticed that they were trying to fend off this guy. Sure, the method you suggested would have also worked, but I happen to believe that what I did could be done by someone who has severe AA. Because if a person has severe AA, then they are likely not confident enough to just cut in like that. But, someone with severe AA may actually have the courage to ask if the girls need some help or company. And, if you look even slightly more appealing, or less threatening than the guy they are trying to avoid, voila! There you go. And, it also happens that I didn't plan to spend much time with these two girls either, because there were others around, but they kept coming back to me. So, I used them as social proof. Which ended up proofing me more because those two girls continued to get closer and closer to me, even though one of them was there WITH her b/f. I even talked to the guy I cockblocked. Found out he was getting ready to go to Iraq. Had already been there once even.

Author:	Cretin105 [ Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:54 am ]
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i am lost in translation . . . and i cant come up with what AA stands for . .. its 1 in the morning and i just got back from a looooooong week help me out here

Author:	L.A. Tripp [ Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:56 am ]
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AA=Approach Anxiety.

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Author:	VanHaven [ Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:01 pm ]
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One of my favorite tricks from back in the day was to do something similar to this. When I could see how bored or irritated a girl was with the AFC or sometimes an overactive AMOG, I'd simply place myself in spot where we could make eye contact and wait. Once that eye conctact is made I'd give her a knowing smile and nod towards the guy. She roll her eyes at him. At which point I'd either enter the set or at times I'd let her get out herself. At which point she'd approach me wanting to know why I didn't help her. Either way I was at least talking to her. Both of my roommates are those overactive AMOGs I mentioned above. They have potential to be great naturals, but they try to hard and always blow themselves out to the point of annoying girls. At which point I always get to follow behind and pick up the pieces and come out smelling like roses.

Author:	Starbuck [ Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:49 pm ]
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Great thread.. Chicks ask for cock blocks all the time.. Especially in the bars. Watch a chick that's having to entertain somebody she obviously doesn't want hangin' around. She pulls the first decent guy and starts treating him like her brother or boyfriend, just to get away from the nuisance who can't take a hint. Don't be the nuisance, and try to be the decent/cool guy. You may just get rewarded for it.

Author:	Close [ Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:29 pm ]
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A guy tried to cockblock / AMOG me last night. I wear a key around my neck, and he pulled on it asking what it is. And he pulled in a really hard assholey manor. So much so that the knot at the back released, and due to the force he was pulling it with, his bodyweight shifted, he dropped his pint, and it smashed all over the floor. He defeated himself, game set and match.

Author:	Starbuck [ Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:46 pm ]
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Quote: A guy tried to cockblock / AMOG me last night. I wear a key around my neck, and he pulled on it asking what it is. And he pulled in a really hard assholey manor. So much so that the knot at the back released, and due to the force he was pulling it with, his bodyweight shifted, he dropped his pint, and it smashed all over the floor. He defeated himself, game set and match. That's FU. He probably thinks that's alpha. But in reality it's just drunk asshole. Yeah I don't like guys I don't know touching me or getting in my space. That's another reason why I stopped going to bars and large public gatherings a few years ago, and mainly just play day game now. Too many people just don't know how to act. If somebody tried to pull on something around my neck, I'd probably jaw 'em. You know, knee jerk reaction. Things can get complicated quick. If something like that ever happens to you.., don't hang around. Move out of the area. A few different reasons. He may have friends, and the bouncers will be comin'. Best bet is to just blow it off like you did. Better to be smarter than the competition rather than just badder. Better to be both. Harder to do the older you get. Sort of like ornery old dog or something.

Author:	chadbaxter [ Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:36 am ]
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I don't usually save girls from the unwanted AFC douche, unless they ask me to pretend to be their boyfriend. I saw it happened recently in a club, some guy was trying really hard to get this girl to dance with him, I was about to go over to the rescue, but decided not to.. 5min later they were grinding on each other pretty hard.. w/e

Author:	gyarados [ Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:14 pm ]
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Yeah done this a few times. once at university some girl was being talked to by a complete geek who talked like daffy duck, and I thought I'd sit down on the grass next to them, 10 minutes later I was in her bedroom I think it works better when it's a girl you have seen around before, but haven't spoke to yet.

Author:	raycasanova [ Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:20 pm ]
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I wouldn't call it cockblocking, I'd just call it AMOGing...it works really well, though it's more of a situational thing unless you're in a club than you can AMOG almost anyone.

Author:	Starbuck [ Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:02 pm ]
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Quote: I wouldn't call it cockblocking, I'd just call it AMOGing...it works really well, though it's more of a situational thing unless you're in a club than you can AMOG almost anyone. I disagree Ray, and here's why. IMO it's not alpha to cock block.. It's DLV. It's an unwritten rule among alphas, especially among chivalrous, self confident and true alphas, that chicks are certainly free to make up their own minds about which guys they want to associate with without interference, within the bounds of proper social conduct. Such interference that has the potential to end up expressed in the form of a fist sandwich. Point being, they're just women. And there's another one coming around every corner. They aren't worth fighting over, unless you're married or something. And those who don't understand such simple concepts shouldn't be considered AMOG's. Just azholes. Yep, jealous, envious, sore loser types that are DLV is a better description. They're often drunk, causing trouble and butting into situations where they don't belong. And everybody including the woman usually knows it. On the other hand, if a guy comes along and captures my target with better technique, etc.., I simply shake his hand and excuse myself. The choice is of course the ladies. Such gentlemanly behavior maybe somewhat of a lost art, and harkens back to the secret society (PMZ members look for my next downloadable ebook on this subject). But if you have it, the ladies who are worth knowing, know who you are. And you very rarely lose out to another guy. Especially one that displays such insecurities.

Author:	raycasanova [ Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:12 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: I wouldn't call it cockblocking, I'd just call it AMOGing...it works really well, though it's more of a situational thing unless you're in a club than you can AMOG almost anyone. I disagree Ray, and here's why. IMO it's not alpha to cock block.. It's DLV. It's an unwritten rule among alphas, especially among chivalrous, self confident and true alphas, that chicks are certainly free to make up their own minds about which guys they want to associate with without interference, within the bounds of proper social conduct. Such interference that has the potential to end up expressed in the form of a fist sandwich. Point being, they're just women. And there's another one coming around every corner. They aren't worth fighting over, unless you're married or something. And those who don't understand such simple concepts shouldn't be considered AMOG's. Just azholes. Yep, jealous, envious, sore loser types that are DLV is a better description. They're often drunk, causing trouble and butting into situations where they don't belong. And everybody including the woman usually knows it. On the other hand, if a guy comes along and captures my target with better technique, etc.., I simply shake his hand and excuse myself. The choice is of course the ladies. Such gentlemanly behavior maybe somewhat of a lost art, and harkens back to the secret society (PMZ members look for my next downloadable ebook on this subject). But if you have it, the ladies who are worth knowing, know who you are. And you very rarely lose out to another guy. Especially one that displays such insecurities. I disagree, lately I've been putting Tyler D concepts into play and it's been working out really good for me since it compliments my asshole persona and I seem to think a lot like that guy. While cock blocking to me is a sin, stealing a set is not. Why? Well for one it's an immediate DHV for me, DLV, for the other guy, and instantly gives me social proof. The whole point of this is to make the other guy look bad by having him try waaaayyy to hard to gain rapport with me and give him little to none and make him come off as beta for overqualifying himself to you. I don't do it all the time, it's just a technique incase another Alpha is an obstacle in a set I wish to approach and winning him over isn't an option. While I see where you're coming from especially since I didn't give enough information I came off the wrong way.

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Author:	Starbuck [ Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:24 pm ]
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Quote: I disagree, lately I've been putting Tyler D concepts into play and it's been working out really good for me since it compliments my asshole persona and I seem to think a lot like that guy. While cock blocking to me is a sin, stealing a set is not. Why? Well for one it's an immediate DHV for me, DLV, for the other guy, and instantly gives me social proof. The whole point of this is to make the other guy look bad by having him try waaaayyy to hard to gain rapport with me and give him little to none and make him come off as beta for overqualifying himself to you. I don't do it all the time, it's just a technique incase another Alpha is an obstacle in a set I wish to approach and winning him over isn't an option. While I see where you're coming from especially since I didn't give enough information I came off the wrong way. Yeah I see what you're saying now. Nothing wrong with out alpha'ing an alpha. Or outdoing a rival. I think where it crosses the line is when one attempts to intentionally disrespect others in a basic and socially clumsy way, interferes with the free choices of others (control), those that interfere or intrude where they aren't welcome (do-gooders), or try to start a bunch of shyt over nothing other than their own egos that often leads to unnecessary violence. You see this a lot around drunks, and around those that have some artificial social power, for instance management types during day game. Or self proclaimed leaders of social circles, who seek to use such power to control the choices of those around them, and who seek to prevent the natural meeting and dating process often for their own benefit only. Perhaps it is our definitions or what a cock block is or isn't that need clarifying. Here are a few definitions of cock blocking behavior. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... cock+block These defs aren't about healthy and sporting competition for a womans attention. They are about intentionally preventing someone from socially engaging a woman due to jealousy, insecurity, control, envy, etc..