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| Author: | Don Draper [ Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | A Mad Man (Journal) |
A little bit of background info : 20 years old. I guess, I am a Natural. Been gaming women since I was 17. The concept of "Pick Up Artistry" for me is another tool to be added to the toolbox. Was in a relationship till a week back. Now, that's over. Influenced to a greater extend by Don Draper from Mad Men. For all his flaws, the man is cerebral when it comes to work and women. Also, he's not a 'man-kid' thing which most men aim to be today. He's a real man, the last of a dying kind. Without further ado.. Well, Break-ups can be bad. You can get complacent, a little too relaxed and take things for granted when it comes to relationships. However, when things go south, you're left with the feeling of an impeding funk. Something which will throw your life and mind in a tizzy. And in a way, you can see it happening before your eyes, you lying on the couch, unshaven, probably wearing dirty clothes, eating ice-cream thinking about the good times you shared with your ex-girlfriend. The image alone makes me shudder. Anyway, I just broke up with my girlfriend. It wasn't a good feeling, but it wasn't all dark and gloomy either. I won't go into the reasons of it simple because that's nobody's business. Now, I sought some advice on what to see regarding that period of mourning your relationship and I was suggested to "seduce some women.. not too fast.. not too slow". And in retrospect, it all leads to the next chance you'll take with the next woman. So, with that in my head. I went to the usual bar. Usual Saturday night. Lots of college girls teeming the place. Now, I knew my game was rusty. And honestly, I had started feeling anxious about approaching women. So, basically my focus was to break free from the clutches of AA before progressing anywhere with women. A long time back, I was reading this blog where the author had posted about an experience he had with his friend, where they used the same line of a room full of women, and in turn, getting all the outcomes which one can expect to. Once you have the knowledge of everything that can happen to you, you just don't hesitate approaching women with the fear of unknown in your head, simply because there isn't one. "Let's get together and make something special." That was to be my line. Cheesy as heck, but who cares? I wasn't intending to pick up women, I was just dealing with my issues tonight. First set : Two girls. I'll say a 8 and a 6. I walked past them and heard the 8 say something about a national news event, got my point to work with I opened them asking their stance on that. Thankfully, some things do stick with us from all these years and the approach was over the shoulder. Basically, had a good five-ten minute conversation, before I used that line. On the 8, obviously. Her : (laughs) Can't you do better than a cheesy line like that! Me : (smirk) I don't know. Is it working? Her : Naah. Try it on her though (gesturing to her friend) Maybe it was some sort of a test, or maybe she was messing with me. Either way I turned to the 6 and said the same line. Both of them laughed and told me they had boyfriends. Which was a lie. But who cares, approaching women after a while takes getting used to. My calibration was way off. Second set : Just a girl sitting by herself. A 7, probably waiting for someone. Me : Sorry, it didn't work out. Her : (with a WTF look) Excuse me?!! Me : Your relationship. I know that look. You'll be fine. (giving her a half-smile) Her : (smile) I'm just waiting for my friends. Me : All alone? In a dangerous place like this? Her : Huh? Me : Let's get together and make something special. Her : Huh? Me : Enjoy your night. God, that girl was dumb. Either that, or I read her all wrong. So, I was down three women and no success. Not the best feeling but I ploughed on. Third set : 4 girls and a guy. Obviously their credit card on two legs, by the looks of it. The girls... well, 7,7,5 and 9. No points for guessing whom I went after. Started talking to the guy. He was a little left out of the said and the women were enjoying their drinks and making loud jokes. I've always found it's easier to talk to one person in the group and use the "Who are your friends here?" line to get introduced to everyone else. So, the guy introduced me to the group. BAM! Instant signs of interest from the girls. A 7 started playing with her hair, and the other one started talking in a high pitch. Amateurs. But, nothing from the 9. I hate how true the proverb rings, that we go after things, that go away from them. I started making general conversation. It's hard to keep 4 girls interested while fending off not so subtle advances from two of them. 9: So, how do you know (their guy friend's name)? Me : We run in the same circles. (The poor bastard was away getting their drink orders. No one caught my lie) 9: And you just thought that you could use that to hit on us? Me : (genuinely confused) Excuse me? 9: Well, you're here to get into our pants, is what I am saying. Me : Well, not in yours. I'm afraid of what I might find in there. (Nasty, nasty comment, I know) 9: How dare you! You don't know me! You're rude! Me : Well, can say the same about you, Miss. Or, is it that hard to believe that you're unwanted by some men. (Yeah, I was being a jerk.) And Lo and behold, the chick goes bonkers, gets up and tries to slap me. I did evade, but that turned me so off. That I got up and told the others, "You're great, great women for putting up with.. THAT." and walked off. So, three failures and an almost slap. Night going from bad to worse. But, I did keep my power in all the sets and was in control importantly. Fourth Set : Two gorgeous women. Easy 10s. The whole bar was staring at them, probably had a tray full of drinks brought for them, if not that then offers for that many for sure. I remembered something which Slywalker mentioned in a LR once. Me : Hey, I haven't said Hi! to you all night. Are you enjoying yourselves? (I had a confident smirk and I knew what I was projecting, a man who wants to get to know you but won't buy you a drink) The first girl : Hi! And we're doing good. Thanks! The second girl : Hey! Do we know you? Thanks for asking though. Me: Does anyone ever 'know' anyone? (Put the emphasis on 'know'. Said that with a lopsided grin. She laughed. Target identified. Now, God bless me, another idiot tumbled into the set and started telling the girls, "You guys are sooo beautiful. Can I buy you both drinks?? Please?" God, that made me cringe. Now, a little Ripley's Believe it or Not fact : If you're in India, are an Indian (or mostly are, as in my case) and can converse in perfect English, it's a DHV. The English scene is still not all that great. Most guys speak in broken English. Highly unattractive and awkward. For everyone. ) Me: Wow, look at that.. a pick up artist, if you may. He's gonna dazzle you guys, I'd be prepared to face his awesomeness, if I were you. (I'd moved to the second girl(my target)'s side and was saying that to her. Now, I have a naturally deep voice, so people always lean in to hear. So did she. Another sign of interest. She just smiled and punched me in the shoulder.) Second girl: Haha. That's rude. Me: What? Well, I'll be the one to tell you later, "I told you so". (laughing and teasing, touched her on the forearm, got the physical escalation starting) Then, there was a lot of talk about her college, my college, the funny ways in which guys hit on her today. She imitated some ridiculous pick up lines used by guys. We were sitting side by side and I had my hand on her thigh sometimes, she had a hand on my shoulder sometimes, it was looking good. But, I had a goal for tonight. Didn't want to stray from that. Me: Listen there is something, that I have to say to you. Her: What? Please don't let it be "I love you". Haha. I just met you! Me : (smiled and looked into her eyes) Let's get together and make something special. Her : Haha. You! That was so cheesy! (All the time looking into my eyes) Me : Said what I had to. (Leaned in and Kiss Close!) It's beautiful when things work. If you're committed to your game, you will get results. It is as simple as that. Anyway, her friend broke us apart, and frankly was out of breath too. She tasted like strawberry. She was blushing and her friend was giving us a smirk and teasing her. I just put my arm round her and was drawing little circles into her bare shoulder. She was leaning in to me. Thoughts of break up forgotten. Anyway, I was getting late (that's the beauty of public transport, gotta make the last call for the bus ride back) and took her number. She snatched the phone and saved it , more like. Been talking and texting regularly. Going to meet her on the weekend. Don't want to jump into another relationship for now. LR? Maybe. We've planned a long date for Saturday. Let's see where that goes. Thanks to Chief. For the advice. A kiss, a slap (almost) and three rejections. Sounds like the usual first night after a break. Here's looking forward to more things. And by things, I mean women. Cheers. |
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| Author: | Cloudboy [ Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:10 am ] |
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Excellent! Shows that women are all completely different, just like men. They are human. What works on one won't work on another. Also, by keeping that line until she was attracted worked really well! |
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| Author: | Cafe_Mocha [ Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:24 am ] |
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Good post, was actually looking to see if you had a journal the other day. I like how you didn't let getting blown out of the other sets stop you from achieving your goal and maintained frame control throughout. Do you think you could have handled the shit test from the HB9 differently and how does gaming in India differ from anywhere else? |
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| Author: | gabi4play [ Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A Mad Man (Journal) |
Quote: A little bit of background info : 20 years old. I guess, I am a Natural. Been gaming women since I was 17. The concept of "Pick Up Artistry" for me is another tool to be added to the toolbox. Was in a relationship till a week back. Now, that's over. Influenced to a greater extend by Don Draper from Mad Men. For all his flaws, the man is cerebral when it comes to work and women. Also, he's not a 'man-kid' thing which most men aim to be today. He's a real man, the last of a dying kind.
Wow you got great inner game,not giving up,and still trying like that with an ease.Damn I would have been really pissed if I were you,after the first 3 sets.
Without further ado.. Well, Break-ups can be bad. You can get complacent, a little too relaxed and take things for granted when it comes to relationships. However, when things go south, you're left with the feeling of an impeding funk. Something which will throw your life and mind in a tizzy. And in a way, you can see it happening before your eyes, you lying on the couch, unshaven, probably wearing dirty clothes, eating ice-cream thinking about the good times you shared with your ex-girlfriend. The image alone makes me shudder. Anyway, I just broke up with my girlfriend. It wasn't a good feeling, but it wasn't all dark and gloomy either. I won't go into the reasons of it simple because that's nobody's business. Now, I sought some advice on what to see regarding that period of mourning your relationship and I was suggested to "seduce some women.. not too fast.. not too slow". And in retrospect, it all leads to the next chance you'll take with the next woman. So, with that in my head. I went to the usual bar. Usual Saturday night. Lots of college girls teeming the place. Now, I knew my game was rusty. And honestly, I had started feeling anxious about approaching women. So, basically my focus was to break free from the clutches of AA before progressing anywhere with women. A long time back, I was reading this blog where the author had posted about an experience he had with his friend, where they used the same line of a room full of women, and in turn, getting all the outcomes which one can expect to. Once you have the knowledge of everything that can happen to you, you just don't hesitate approaching women with the fear of unknown in your head, simply because there isn't one. "Let's get together and make something special." That was to be my line. Cheesy as heck, but who cares? I wasn't intending to pick up women, I was just dealing with my issues tonight. First set : Two girls. I'll say a 8 and a 6. I walked past them and heard the 8 say something about a national news event, got my point to work with I opened them asking their stance on that. Thankfully, some things do stick with us from all these years and the approach was over the shoulder. Basically, had a good five-ten minute conversation, before I used that line. On the 8, obviously. Her : (laughs) Can't you do better than a cheesy line like that! Me : (smirk) I don't know. Is it working? Her : Naah. Try it on her though (gesturing to her friend) Maybe it was some sort of a test, or maybe she was messing with me. Either way I turned to the 6 and said the same line. Both of them laughed and told me they had boyfriends. Which was a lie. But who cares, approaching women after a while takes getting used to. My calibration was way off. Second set : Just a girl sitting by herself. A 7, probably waiting for someone. Me : Sorry, it didn't work out. Her : (with a WTF look) Excuse me?!! Me : Your relationship. I know that look. You'll be fine. (giving her a half-smile) Her : (smile) I'm just waiting for my friends. Me : All alone? In a dangerous place like this? Her : Huh? Me : Let's get together and make something special. Her : Huh? Me : Enjoy your night. God, that girl was dumb. Either that, or I read her all wrong. So, I was down three women and no success. Not the best feeling but I ploughed on. Third set : 4 girls and a guy. Obviously their credit card on two legs, by the looks of it. The girls... well, 7,7,5 and 9. No points for guessing whom I went after. Started talking to the guy. He was a little left out of the said and the women were enjoying their drinks and making loud jokes. I've always found it's easier to talk to one person in the group and use the "Who are your friends here?" line to get introduced to everyone else. So, the guy introduced me to the group. BAM! Instant signs of interest from the girls. A 7 started playing with her hair, and the other one started talking in a high pitch. Amateurs. But, nothing from the 9. I hate how true the proverb rings, that we go after things, that go away from them. I started making general conversation. It's hard to keep 4 girls interested while fending off not so subtle advances from two of them. 9: So, how do you know (their guy friend's name)? Me : We run in the same circles. (The poor bastard was away getting their drink orders. No one caught my lie) 9: And you just thought that you could use that to hit on us? Me : (genuinely confused) Excuse me? 9: Well, you're here to get into our pants, is what I am saying. Me : Well, not in yours. I'm afraid of what I might find in there. (Nasty, nasty comment, I know) 9: How dare you! You don't know me! You're rude! Me : Well, can say the same about you, Miss. Or, is it that hard to believe that you're unwanted by some men. (Yeah, I was being a jerk.) And Lo and behold, the chick goes bonkers, gets up and tries to slap me. I did evade, but that turned me so off. That I got up and told the others, "You're great, great women for putting up with.. THAT." and walked off. So, three failures and an almost slap. Night going from bad to worse. But, I did keep my power in all the sets and was in control importantly. Fourth Set : Two gorgeous women. Easy 10s. The whole bar was staring at them, probably had a tray full of drinks brought for them, if not that then offers for that many for sure. I remembered something which Slywalker mentioned in a LR once. Me : Hey, I haven't said Hi! to you all night. Are you enjoying yourselves? (I had a confident smirk and I knew what I was projecting, a man who wants to get to know you but won't buy you a drink) The first girl : Hi! And we're doing good. Thanks! The second girl : Hey! Do we know you? Thanks for asking though. Me: Does anyone ever 'know' anyone? (Put the emphasis on 'know'. Said that with a lopsided grin. She laughed. Target identified. Now, God bless me, another idiot tumbled into the set and started telling the girls, "You guys are sooo beautiful. Can I buy you both drinks?? Please?" God, that made me cringe. Now, a little Ripley's Believe it or Not fact : If you're in India, are an Indian (or mostly are, as in my case) and can converse in perfect English, it's a DHV. The English scene is still not all that great. Most guys speak in broken English. Highly unattractive and awkward. For everyone. ) Me: Wow, look at that.. a pick up artist, if you may. He's gonna dazzle you guys, I'd be prepared to face his awesomeness, if I were you. (I'd moved to the second girl(my target)'s side and was saying that to her. Now, I have a naturally deep voice, so people always lean in to hear. So did she. Another sign of interest. She just smiled and punched me in the shoulder.) Second girl: Haha. That's rude. Me: What? Well, I'll be the one to tell you later, "I told you so". (laughing and teasing, touched her on the forearm, got the physical escalation starting) Then, there was a lot of talk about her college, my college, the funny ways in which guys hit on her today. She imitated some ridiculous pick up lines used by guys. We were sitting side by side and I had my hand on her thigh sometimes, she had a hand on my shoulder sometimes, it was looking good. But, I had a goal for tonight. Didn't want to stray from that. Me: Listen there is something, that I have to say to you. Her: What? Please don't let it be "I love you". Haha. I just met you! Me : (smiled and looked into her eyes) Let's get together and make something special. Her : Haha. You! That was so cheesy! (All the time looking into my eyes) Me : Said what I had to. (Leaned in and Kiss Close!) It's beautiful when things work. If you're committed to your game, you will get results. It is as simple as that. Anyway, her friend broke us apart, and frankly was out of breath too. She tasted like strawberry. She was blushing and her friend was giving us a smirk and teasing her. I just put my arm round her and was drawing little circles into her bare shoulder. She was leaning in to me. Thoughts of break up forgotten. Anyway, I was getting late (that's the beauty of public transport, gotta make the last call for the bus ride back) and took her number. She snatched the phone and saved it , more like. Been talking and texting regularly. Going to meet her on the weekend. Don't want to jump into another relationship for now. LR? Maybe. We've planned a long date for Saturday. Let's see where that goes. Thanks to Chief. For the advice. A kiss, a slap (almost) and three rejections. Sounds like the usual first night after a break. Here's looking forward to more things. And by things, I mean women. Cheers. |
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| Author: | Don Draper [ Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:38 pm ] |
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Quote: Excellent! Shows that women are all completely different, just like men. They are human. What works on one won't work on another. Also, by keeping that line until she was attracted worked really well!
Tis true, people.One of the main mistakes a lot of guys do is that they generalise women. What might work on one girl, will turn the other off completely. That is why, the whole aim of pick-up isn't to get you women with saying certain "canned" things, its to develop in you that sense of calibration so that you can tune your game in accordance with the woman you are gaming ,at that moment. Using the same lines and the same patterns doesn't make you any different than a robot. Quote: Good post, was actually looking to see if you had a journal the other day. I like how you didn't let getting blown out of the other sets stop you from achieving your goal and maintained frame control throughout. Do you think you could have handled the shit test from the HB9 differently and how does gaming in India differ from anywhere else?
Well, I'd intended to put this up on Sunday, but can be a lazy slacker at times.That's the thing, trust me. If you can keep your frame and not get affected by the consequences of the pick-up, be it positive or negative. You'll be fine. Most people lose their frame when things go south and some do when things go great and they revert back to their old selves. Your aim should be to operate in a constant 'zone' as to say. Success comes from being consistent. Thing about Indian women is that this is still a country steeped in traditions. Women are expected to behave in a certain way by the society. To be more reserved and shackled. Don't go out expect a same night lay in India, if it happens, it happens. Otherwise, more often than not, it doesn't. But, things are changing thanks to the increasing influence of the West and for the good too. Women are becoming open which makes things a bit more easy for us men, who have "game". Quote: Wow you got great inner game,not giving up,and still trying like that with an ease.Damn I would have been really pissed if I were you,after the first 3 sets.
Well, I was pissed. After that near slap, I was in half a mind to pick a fight with some "chode" doing the rounds, but then I remembered that that's not what I was here for.If you're ever in danger of losing your frame, take a deep breath and think about your aim. Think objectively. Go to the washroom and splash water on your face, if needed. But, cool down. Keeping a cool head gets more pick-ups any day than getting into a bar fight. Also, women often tell me that they like men who walk away from fights than those who get into them. Walking away to women, is a trait of the bigger man. They admire that. |
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