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| Author: | zebraG [ Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Pick up a girl shopping with her mum |
I remember reading about this same time back; the ultimate day game challenge. I, always being one for a challenge, remembered this when sat in my local cafe. There was this girl who kept glancing up at me. She was a 7 and possibly under age. I told myself that if they were still there in 15 minutes, I'd go and open them and try this challenge. In this 15 minutes, I kept her in my periphery vision (lined her up with my book). Slight tilt of the head exposing neck to her, slightly narrowed eyes, the occasional smile when she looked up but without looking back. Occasionally, I'd look in her direction but when she looked back, she saw that I was watching past her out of the window. Basically, the best I could do to get her interested in me without actually speaking. I had a book called "the psychology of interpersonal behaviour" and so I stacked my stuff up (less than ideal; I need a man bag to carry this stuff!) and headed over to their table. Older lady and HB were sat opposite each other on a rectangular table so there was a seat next to the HB and the older lady. I put my stuff on the table with my book clearly visible on top. "Excuse me, [note 1] I'm currently reading up on interpersonal psychology. I'm hoping that I can tell how you guys know each other based on my observations. Sorry, do you mind if I sit here? [note 2] *sit next to older lady* You're friends right?" *Look at each other* "No" "So you don't like each other?" "What? No, she's my mum!" "Doesn't mean that she's not your friend: I'm great friends with my niece for example" (I ALWAYS play the niece card) "Well yeah, I guess we are then" "Do you know how I could tell? Have you ever heard of mirroring?" {pause - I'm not talking again until they conversing. I've dangled the carrot, they've got to engage in conversation to get anything more.} Mum:"yeah, it's when two people copy each other right?" "Yeah, basically, every time one of you took a drink, the other one copied." "Mum, you were sooooo copying me" "No, you too!" *burst out laughing* [note3] About here, the HB throws away coffee and napkin. The napkin misses bin and lands at my feet. I tell her not to waste it and start making a rose out of it. She told me that "it's a rose right?". I shoot HB down for being so presumptuous that she was going to get a rose and give it to her mum, moving the conversation mum's way. After blocking her out for a little bit, I start talking to the group: "So then, what are you girls up to today to?" HB, desperate for attention [note 4]: "We've just been shopping" "Ah cool, what did you get?" *HB looks at mum and giggles* "Underwear" *Wow, do you always tell guys about that sort of thing?" *More laughter* [note 3 again] We then fluff talked for a bit. I found out that she was a student. Here's where I went wrong; I negged her for her uni choice (Ew. You're bad by association I'm afraid. I've had bad experiences with X uni girls). She looked at her mum, her mum looked back for approval before laughing. The laughter was not real. Possibly something to do with sexual 'bad experiences' undertone? Some point around here, she got up to leave, I can't remember if it was this comment that caused it though. As they were getting ready to leave, I formally introduced myself to the mum, handshook, then did the same with the HB. I didn't bother trying to number close: It was 50-50 if I'd get it and I didn't want to get shot down. All in, 10 minutes. 5 minutes more and I reckon that I'd have the comfort to get her number. Hell, with hindsight, I should have really broken the mould by getting the mum's number: I reckon that would have been easier! Lessons learnt: a) Going for girl with mum will be FAR easier than going for girl with her dad (dads are more protective) b) Win the mum over c) No negging [note 1] - For English people, always start with 'sorry' or 'excuse me'. It's a cultural thing rather than actually being sorry. I don't care what the gurus say, for English people not starting a conversation with some apology gets a similar reaction to "You know, you smell like a goldfish". [note 2] - Reading between the lines, this is: Hey, I've got something interesting to tell you, but I'm only telling you if I can sit down. [note 3] - making them laugh without being a joker. [note 4] - Her mum knew exactly what I was doing. I'd been demonstrating that I was good enough for her daughter and so she let me carry on. Do not be under ANY assumptions that you can win this situation without getting the mother on board. |
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| Author: | zebraG [ Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:34 pm ] |
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PS. this isn't the ultimate challenge. The ULTIMATE challenge is to pick up a girl: a) who's with her dad b) using only 60 years technique! |
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