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Author:  JME [ Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:37 pm ]
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I was sitting at a Books A Million and in the book I was reading, I learned that chocolate is horrible in even small amounts, so I asked a girl near where I sat (she was standing right in front of me) if she could help me out and eat some of my chocolate. When she turned around, she was tall and blond, with a huge smile. I explained why I wanted to give it away, and we got into a conversation. A couple minutes in, I realized that she was still standing and a chair was open a few feet away. I told her that me looking up to her was horrible and that she should be on my level.
"Go get a book and come sit in this chair so you can tell me all about NYU." "What are you, some guy just trying to pick up girls in a books a million?" [pause]. "You are mistaken if you think I'm that easy" (roll off) "If you change your mind, I'd like to continue our conversation." She did come back, but only to tell me thanks for the chocolate..

I really wanted to say, "yes, I am that guy, is it working?" When is this an appropriate thing to say?
Author:  Datguy [ Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:29 pm ]
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Tell her you were just trying to have a nice conversation with someone else. You don't have to qualify to her, make her look as the asshole here for cutting you down for something so trivial.
Author:  Scouser01 [ Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:11 pm ]
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Dude, if she was hot and you wanted her not just for a conversation tell her!

Tell her that, you were trying to pick her up!

Be honest and go direct - tell her what you genuinely feel at that moment!
Author:  new2game [ Sun Dec 19, 2010 1:11 am ]
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Dude, if she was hot and you wanted her not just for a conversation tell her!

Tell her that, you were trying to pick her up!

Be honest and go direct - tell her what you genuinely feel at that moment!
Absolutely. Don't be afraid.

"your just trying to pick up women"
- "Absolutely, thats why I'm talking to you"

She will either scoff and walk away. Or thankyou for atleast being honest (yes this happens).
Author:  JME [ Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:48 pm ]
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That comes off as being too needy to me. Isn't the role of a PUA to be chased and never to chase? I do not want to come off as easy and superficial. That is a DLV. My persona is what I'm conveying as why she should be talking to me. Not because I want to hit on her. When I asked when to say "yes, i am that guy", I was more talking about it to be a joke. She should not talk to me because I am hitting on her, but because I am someone she chooses to speak with. Nonverbal DHV's are much more effective. Fair?
Author:  new2game [ Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:01 am ]
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That comes off as being too needy to me. Isn't the role of a PUA to be chased and never to chase? I do not want to come off as easy and superficial. That is a DLV. My persona is what I'm conveying as why she should be talking to me. Not because I want to hit on her. When I asked when to say "yes, i am that guy", I was more talking about it to be a joke. She should not talk to me because I am hitting on her, but because I am someone she chooses to speak with. Nonverbal DHV's are much more effective. Fair?
But then that would be a DLV? Because you won't cop to your actions and therefore fail the shit test.

DHV'ing in this situation would be to stand your ground, keep eye contact and admit to it. "yes why else would I be talking to you". Think of what an alpha would do. (tom cruise etc)

Women can smell bullshit, so dont bullshit.
Author:  JME [ Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:48 am ]
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That makes sense
Author:  HitTheLightsPumpTheStrobe [ Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:23 pm ]
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Who cares if you have to chase a bit theres always time to turn it around, in the end the point of pua is to get with her.

"yes, i am that guy, is it working?" hahah, i like that i think its a bit cocky and funny if you say it right, plus you had the balls to be that honest about it. i think you should've tried it. I mean it's better than saying nothing and she just walked off anyway.
Author:  stuckupcurlyguy [ Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:46 pm ]
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You could either deny it tactfully, or you could go completely direct and say "absolutely". But the first is lying, and the second probably just means she'll blow you off.

Why not try Hitch's thing :D start talking in DHV hypotheticals. "I could be that guy, you definitely get a lot of them, don't you? I could be someone who's so desperate for some ass that he goes around offering chocolate to every tall, attractive blonde in town. But even if I wasn't, I couldn't possibly prove to you that I was [insert DHV stuff here] instead. So you'll just have to make your own judgement. :)"

Would be fun field testing that sort of thing.

But you started out the interaction by offering her a gift and continued it sitting down while she was standing up ... when you act like a total AFC what do you think is going to happen? Heh.
Author:  MyNameIsCanada [ Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:04 pm ]
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See, I think the issue here is the power imbalance with you sitting down and her standing up. You're telling her to do something even though you've been in the non-dominant position for some time now.

The better solution would have been to get her into the chair much earlier, or, once you blow that window, to stand up and start giving body language that you're getting ready to leave.

That way she can start chasing you, and then you can number close, keep talking to her for another few minutes to solidify the whole thing, and then you be the first to leave.
Author:  ManlySpirit [ Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:06 pm ]
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See, I think the issue here is the power imbalance with you sitting down and her standing up. You're telling her to do something even though you've been in the non-dominant position for some time now.

The better solution would have been to get her into the chair much earlier, or, once you blow that window, to stand up and start giving body language that you're getting ready to leave.

That way she can start chasing you, and then you can number close, keep talking to her for another few minutes to solidify the whole thing, and then you be the first to leave.
This, exactly this.

I agree with the fact that giving into her game and saying "absolutely, i am trying to pick you up" although cocky/funny is indeed needy. Sure, it may work, but you are gambling on the fact that she found that cute or funny. That is not alpha, and while it may sound cool on paper, in the field, you are indeed putting yourself down for her.

You guys always say: think of what Tom Cruise would do, thats Alpha, I say NO, think of what James Bond would do.

Bond would never put himself down to a woman like that. He would be more subtle, a bit more like what Canada just said.
Author:  Durden [ Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:59 pm ]
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"Yes I'm trying, it's the reason why I'm actually talking to you (big smile). Hi, I'm .... "
Author:  Br@ke [ Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:31 am ]
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i'm fairly new to the game but i believe that is called a shit test. i could be wrong but you could think of a witty response to turn it back on her, or possibly throw in a neg. maybe "arent you a cocky one? how do you know i'm not gay?" then maybe tell her she has something in her teeth (even if she doesnt, she wont know untill she goes to a bathroom, but you know well enough she's going to try to get it before she gets there), or criticize her selection of book. i dunno. i'd like some feed back because thats probably how i would have played it.
Author:  Solteris [ Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:00 am ]
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Isn't the whole end game of that interaction to get in her pants? Dont be afraid of telling her you're interested...when she KNOWS you're interested, then start backing off, that's when she's gonna feel insecure and wonder wtf is going on. Then that's when she starts getting reaction seeking by being more flirty and such.

If you just approach a woman with a few witty lines and no sexual aggression, she's just gonna think your a nice guy. This is all a numbers game. I'd rather roll the dice being sexual off the bat and face big rejection instead of playing it safe and sound. Which ones getting laid first?
Author:  bigbuck [ Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:37 am ]
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you coulda said something like

'well at the moment no, I havent talked to you long enough to form an accurate judgement as to what kind of person you really are'

then she will either walk off, say something bitchy, or qualify herself to you.
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