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Author:  Diego1234567 [ Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Shah's Journal!
Captain's Log,

okay talking in third person is pretty lame, ill give you that.

Im going to put up field reports in here and I would like feed back. Critiquing it rather than just positive/negative points. Send me tips in what you would have done in certain situations or anything you goddamn want. You can tell me openers to use, random lines or use indirect/direct, different styles. Push me guys. Give me missions.

Here is where i was upto before this field report (couldnt go out since. was busy)
thought-id-introduce-myself-and-admit-s ... 80135.html

Note: only give me things/lines to do if you have done them yourself or are of enough experience to say it. dont want anyone who's read a book and says "oh do (insert quote from book here)".

ill also put a lesson of what i learnt at the end of each report. It will be mostly nightgame but i will post any daygame up.

I do a mix of RSD stuff, Gunwitch, 60years and Chiefs guide, boyo! well its the stuff ive read anywho.


okay 1,2,3, go!
Author:  Diego1234567 [ Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:05 am ]
Post subject:  Saying Hi is good.
Okay so im going into the nearest city where my friend lives, we're both 19 but he has his own sweeeeeet pad. I havent drunk in 3months because i thought id do sober gaming in clubs by myself to begin with, it was bad. This guy is awesome, he gets us to play some drinking game called 'slam' but i say i dont want to get too drunk. after about 5 or 6 bottles we leave with a note on a can of beer saying "FLY UNDER CAN" (dont ask), im spruced up and in a good mood as hes really social and cool, so i know i dont have to worry about him when i open sets (Actually hes a natural, hella natural).

we go into WETHERSPOONS, a restraunty bar-like place with quiet music, i get a doubloe sailor jerries and coke, mmmm, im feeling pretty drunk and ive been saying "Hi" to everyone and smiling, a few quick conversations and the like. The bartender says i look like her ex and i say "funny, you look like mine ;)" proceed stupid drunken banter, Chris farley style (haha maybe, maybe not, im not very secure about my game). I know ive got to keep in set or saying "Hi" to everyone to stay in state/the mood.

My turn for a round of drinks and i have no money, go outside to cashpoint and get a very friendly "hi" back, i should have opened but i was thinking about getting money-turned out my bank didnt have money for me, sad sad sad :( friend buys me drinks good good good :D .

A 3 set walk by and one of them is covered in giant 21st birthday stickers, badges and balloons and i speak to her friend

"hey"
"hey"
"what you upto, youre interesting" (i think i say this anyway with a good old cheeky smile and so much eye contact, serial killer style man)
"Its my friend's birthday"
i look at her friend in her gear "how old are you?" deadpan
"umm have a guess" jokingly/sarcastic but friendly
"17."
thats roughly what happened then they went to the toilet (they were walking to the stairs that lead to them as i opened them but they were still probably getting away)
they were cute and cool. nice.

I speak to some random 5 set who were older, i do the old 60 handshake that i dowith any girl i first meet. Im eyefucking all of them. i cant remember what i said really but i remember with one of the older ones who wasnt attractive to me, for some reason, i realised we hadnt let go after the hand shake. I take their camera and take photos of them, my friend is in the photos, i get in them and i take random photos things and we're all laughing. Im just being friendly. They were really cool.

Next im speaking to a 2set next to us but i just talk junk theyre at the bar facing away and i come up behind them, "yeah so i was walking my baby the other day and it was just sooo cool." they laughed, i was only messing just making sure im speaking to everyone.

Me and my friend sit down on a table, adjacent to some hotties, i was actually gonna open them straight away but he said sit down there first (one place where i succeed in him is opening random people. he can but doesnt really care for it unless its just being social). I think ive actually already spoken to them but ive talked to everybody in this place im drunk and cant remember. I say a few words but i think im just being silly. not sure if thats a good thing or not but hey im opening like crazy.

we go over to this club that is tiny, basically a dancefloor with a few chairs, a teenagers bedroom sized sitting area and an open smoking area the size of council estate garden its tiny (seriously) but its good and packed to the brink of destruction with plenty of hotties. We were drunk and cut in the line to get in by accident and just make friends to the whole line behind us who were all hot girls. i dont really remember what happened apart from introducing myself to them all and saying "whats your favourite colour" and then just saying stuff like "youre a green girl", her: "no its blue", me: "NO its green" and they busted my balls on that later, girls:"He's asking us our favourite colour (laughing)", Me: "because im interested! (jokingly shouting)".

we finally get in and i say hi to the bouncers, they reply back friendly. cool. I try and be friendly to them for plently of reasons (mainly because i like to be friendly though hence why im on this site :D ) i say hi to everybody walking passed still, some girl didnt so grabbed her bicep and said "hey i said i hi are you gonna reply" or to that effect and she replied and i walked off to get some water, 15minutes to get water, affected my state but ill have to deal with that ! i spoke to some guy next to me who mentioned he was getting a sailor jerrys and coke. we hi-5'd as i had it earlier. he was cool.

oh i guess i should have said that my friend met some girl in the line (in front of us not the behind-line-gals), and within about 15minutes, probably earlier, he left and got laid. Suave bastard, hes awesome the dickhead! so im running around the club, a big dancefloor.....i hate dancefloors especailly when theyre packed. I'll have to learn about dem things. I go outside and some girl sitting down with her friend looks at me as if she knows me (like as if id been with her earlier), so i shrug my shoulders and walk over. sit down. My eyes are dirty perverts with her eyes. I put my arm around her and just talk and i think im being more serious now but i cant remember if im honest. I think i stop eye contact soon after so much and i lose a bit of confidence in my kino and i speak to her friend a bit, cant remember if her friend was being friendly because i remember thinking "shes being a bit weird...", she leans into me when i put my arm around her i remember that. then some guy i met the night before (i couldnt game that night, i was terrrrrible) and had a few words and i think he stole my girl. Not sure, cant remember.

i go home after i look around and i get told by someone my friend has gone ( I may be making excuses, i think i am actually but i was staying around his and i thought if i couldnt find him id be fucked and not SNL style and it lingered in my head). i go home and he throws the keys to his flat through the window as he was busy having sex lol. i come in, open a beer and make some noodles and pass out.

wake up about 30minutes later, its half 3 and we randomly go into the nextdoor neighbours flat and party with him until i make more noodles and pass out, those noodles became my awesome breakfast. The guys in that flat are fucking great, i heard one of them go upstairs with a girl because she hadnt seen terminator 2 and she just HAD to watch it HAHAHAHAA i laughed for hours then woke up and it was the first thing i thought of and laughed again. im laughing now.


WHAT SHAH HAS LEARNT

okay, basically i said "hi" to everyone and i felt really good, i realised that saying "hi" to everyone with a smile on a night out will automatically make it 100x better. scientifically proven, 100% fact.

I need to more sober but i realised something MAJOR. Going out to a club is for going with friends when drunk, not alone, sober and attempting to prey on women. its for socialising. So when i went out with my friend and we knew we could have just as much fun by ourselves if we wanted, it wasnt to much pressure and i didnt think too much about GAMING in the classical sense. Ive always had thoughts about this but i never had something to 'prove' it to myself. Since i started game that is. Like i realised i can speak to women and say hi to people when im going about my day but not if i specifically went out to do it.

I think i need to be more serious when trying to talk to women, im not sure if this is just because im drunk or not. actually i know i do it when im sober sometimes, im kinda scared that i do a chris farley or at least just be too unserious, you know, acting cocky or uninterested to protect my ego ( i noticed i do that so i cant get rejected sometimes or maybe a lot. need to work on that! I can be serious though, and have done but i need to do it more i think.

also be more sober, so i have more control but be drunk enough to feel like i actually should be where i am ( a club).

i also realised i can be fun and the party when im just vibing and having fun.
I also realised i have potential in myself. I also think ive done this before i got into game but maybe im just saying this, im pretty sure i havent done this before (unless you count the times when im SOOOOO drunk, like too drunk).

I think that maybe i wasnt pushing my comfort zone enough, something ive been worried about lately. After my friend left i didnt properly open really and i felt like i didnt do 'proper' approaches/openings where they got the drift i wanted to bone them and i was being serious about it. Its like as soon as i get that feeling of nervousness doing anything, my body shutsdown and freezes me up. Need to work on that.

overall, good night. i have potential but comfort zone NEEDS to be pushed and i need to put myself on the line as 60 said.

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Just as extra information; My friend does not know about me doing 'game' and would be a total dick about it, hes always saying "you think too much" "just be yourself"....i get what he means but when people just spit cliche phrases like that i feel like theyre feeding their egos (being a dick). i dont like saying "oh its just you ego" but why else would you tell that to someone other than to feel like your teaching someone when youve just copied an empty-meaningless phrase.

Feedback please!

peace and love

Shah

x
Author:  Diego1234567 [ Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:12 pm ]
Post subject: 
Okay the last one was on SATURDAY 11th december 2010, this one is MONDAY 13th DECEMBER 2010. and that entire field report was written hungover and sleep deprived so forgive anything nonsense in it. I also completed all the errands and objectives i set myself throughout monday so i was feeling good (it werent that many)

I go into the same city as before, Truro, and its student night or something, im a student, great. It was with that same friend i mentioned before lets call him MEGATRON to negate any confusion. Its megatron and 4 other guys predrinking at his and 4 girls; megatrons ex (i couldnt get my eyes off her, dayem) and i flirted alot with the 2 of the others to get in the mood (i decided i will flirt as much as possible with any girl when going out to get in the mood but....i dont think i can flirt haha). A drinking game called the pyramid keeps us all chatty and joking around and i dont drink much.

anyway we set off at like 9:45 so we didnt have to pay to get in. The flat is only minute or 2 from the club (L2) and that keeps my state up. Its a £1 drink on alcopops, uh oh, i do terrible dancing for a bit with the girls and my friends, not for social proof but dancing with hotties aint too bad to start the night off and we were literally the only ones on the dancefloor.

i start smiling and saying hi to people (i wished we went somewhere before this to get into the groove, note that boyo), i put my hand to shake a girls hand on the dancefloor and i get 'the look of rejection' and turned away. i laughed hard and so did megatron.

As im putting my hand out to a few girls on the dancefloor, some say "thats nice" or just smile. then my first set to go well is when i see a 2 set on the edge of the dancefloor area.

me: "hey im Shah"
handshake and she smiles back. eye contact (do i even need to mention this)
Her:....
Me: hey hey hey thats rude whats you name, im introducing myself
Her: *she said her name but i immediately forgot HBsmaller*
------------------turn to her friend----------------------------------------------
Me: hey im barney
*handshake and a twirl*
Her: hi im emma (eye contact is on)

We get chatting and they say they work in wetherspoons and i say i was there the other night and i think i might recognise Hbsmaller. HBtaller says shes in the kitchen and to come in and say "say hi to hbsmaller and hbtaller from Shah". how she knew my forum name ill never know...hardy har.

i think im still going for hbsmaller then i say "hey want to go outside smoking area?". realise i should of said "hey lets go outside smoking area". i think i corrected my self but the place is loud and hard to hear or remember what you said "alcohol doesnt help either". They girl 'eye code' thinking about it now and hbsmaller isnt up for it but i realised after that hbtaller was like "oh actually we can". i think hbtaller wanted me. i take both their hands as we're leaving and i throw their arms into the link arm think (its hella gay im never doing that again but having 2 chicks on your arm is pretty cool knowing YOU did it to a complete stranger 5minutes ago). i hear hbtaller say "youre a ladies man arent you?" (is this a shittest or are they making fun of me). we get outside and hbsmaller goes to some friends she knew (this could be why they came out with me, hence why i think the ladies man remark could be a mock, in hindsight). i introduce hbtaller to megatron but we had a photo taken before the introduction by megatron. this is where i fucked up.

Me: megatron, this is girlnumber1, girl number1 this is megatron
Her: SLAAAAAAAAPPPPPPSSSSS ME ACROSS THE FACE

she walked off and i shouted her real name but she doesnt care. oh well. next time dont make jokes like that. I think it might have gone differently but im sleep deprived (the night went crazy) and memories are hazey. i flirt with barmaids saying theyre my favourite barmaids in the place and little holdy hands when handing over money and theyre laughing. Im just that cool. I handled state well when 2 guys that i know were just being dicks and when basically everyguy apart from megatron started being women (too long to explain but they were acting like a soap opera).

2 more sets get opened. I use the "im sad can i have a kiss?" i got rejected. they were a 2set of very tall women but hot. it was funny.

i saw a girl walk passed and i shouted "hey! hey! HEYYYYY!" she turned around and i did the opener ive done before. she stands there and dances a little bit but i do NOTHING. no real sexy eyecontact, kino, not even proximity, you wouldnt even know we were meant to be interacting. i didnt even speak. she walked off after 2minutes. i still said hi to people but just had lots of fun with my friends. it was seriously crazy. went bed(i mean a shitty chair)at 7:30am in the end and college at 9am....

i havent slept properly since thursday night, since then its been like that really. hence my vagueness of these reports (also my memory is affected badly by alcohol worse than average).

I open on the dancefloor mainly because thats where everyone actually was. truro's clubs seem to be dancefloor orientated or my few visits are coincidences.

I LEARNT:

After Hbtaller and Hbsmaller, i learnt that the opener, you have to assert yourself to get into conversation you dont act like "oh i hope she speaks to me" its more like "OKAY THIS GIRL IS SPEAKING TO ME AS I WANT HER". take what you want out of this world. ya know. we aint baking fairycakes as my muaythai instructor used to say. I also learnt not to be so cocky or maybe i just pushed the boundaries, i didnt fully explain it, ill ask megatron about how i introduced them and edit this. I have so much fun just saying hi to people, random stuff can happen :D. I also realise im not so afraid to ask for silly things like the time or random things.

i went home and oen of my friends gave his socks to a random girl because he saw she had bare feet and its winter. nice guy (actually he cheated on his girlfriend about 2hours before but ya know.....he didnt mean to!). and then 2 of my friends had an arguement that ended in "MY DICKS MASSSIVE, ITS NOT A CHODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ILL SHOW YOU MASSIVE DICK." neighbours complained. then i slept in mychair.

feedback please

peace and love x
Author:  Diego1234567 [ Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:18 pm ]
Post subject: 
going out tonight it seems WEDNESDAY 15TH DECEMBER 2010.

Im going to implement microavoidance but recently ive been trying to stick to a "to do list", so each day i get done everything that is needed and looking at the list done will give me self esteem boosts.

Tonight my aim is to 'hook' more sets/ proper conversation and kino going on/ get to the point that if someone looked over at us, theyd think we were 2 people enjoying each others company whilst flirting. that is all.
Author:  smooth99 [ Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:07 pm ]
Post subject: 
hahaahaha this thread is hilarious mate and sounds like your having a lot of fun with this stuff.

looking forward to the next thrilling installment lol.
Author:  Diego1234567 [ Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:27 pm ]
Post subject: 
Okay WEDNESDAY 15th december. Me and megatron go out again but we end up doing nothing, theres not much around town apart from this bar that sorta is my local. a lot is happening but i dont open many sets.


Its comes down to people i know being around and them seeing me 'game', i dont know what this is. could someone give this from a psycological POV or something. I think its to do with the fact they have a percieved image of me or maybe i dont want them to see me get shot down then embarrassed but then i remember getting with a hot girl back in the summer and i remember some of my brothers friends walked passed and i sorta hid my face. Its confusing, i know i dont like approaching in front of other people so much in general but this is a different feeling, its not so much AA. i feel VERY AWARE.

feedback on that please but yeah tuesday night was the only night ive had any real sleep then we go on a little trip in his car and i end up sleeping on his sofa at 7:30am and on the bus to college by 8:30. im so dead from sleep deprivation.

I pass out on the bus, i had a few bits of eye contact and smiles with hotties during the day at college even though i was a wreck in 2day old clothes and just looking like shit.

i wake up on the bus and there is a kinda cute gal up front, i move up forward a few seats near the stairs (double decker bus that is) as im not sure what bus im on, im too tired and want to get to the nearest exit. i say "ah nice drawings on your jeans" as she had her jeans completely covered in felt tip markings and just asked what certain things meant. it lasted about a minute. Day game is my WEAKEST POINT. people around.....its quite.....ill work on it.

Oh and for some reason i keep telling people in my college lessons that im gay, quite a few believed it although one girl said "your the least gay person i know!!", she reeeeeaaalllllyyyyyy isnt my type though. shes nice though.

anyway, im going out to a hectic club out of town somewhere, which is apparently one of the best nights of the entire year as all the students are back or something, ive been told its mental on a normal night so it should be good. I need sleep, ill sleep in the car..........sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeppppppp. Oh and i have college a 9:15, so ill have to be up by 8am with important coursework and shit. uh-oh.
Author:  Diego1234567 [ Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:23 pm ]
Post subject: 
okay so went out on THURSDAY 16th DECEMBER to zone. first we chilled at MEGATRON'S place with another friend. i wasnt drinking because i had an essay to bring in first lesson tomorrow and i wanted to see what i was like sober but with friends in this place 'zone'. my friend got drunk whilst megatron didnt because he was driving there and back (he wanted to drink but he was our only lift). They talked about cars but i find that stuff boring and i tried to meditate but i fell a tiny bit asleep for a microsecond, weird feeling. i was damn tired but that is no excuse and i wouldnt use it as one either.

we get into zone its damn earlier, no more than 20people (thats being generous) in there, its 10:30pm, we get in and i have a banter with the stamp ladies but megatron pointed out later he had even better banter with them....i didnt care.

I should have been saying 'hi' to everyone in there but i didnt. my friends and i were just talking, damn. there were a few hotties in already. we got speaking to a few taht i already new from back in newquay (this place is 15miles away) who were friends with people i know. we got speaking, the friend i was with ended up getting with one of them, she gets with everybody but i felt i shouldnt mention that as although i dont judge it, hell i hi-5 girls who admit to being a bit slutty or get with a few guys in one night i wish i did (with women), hes not like that. cool. i find my voice isnt loud enough as even when i do attempt to say 'hi' im not loud enough or they ignore me. even when i dont have AA on just saying 'hi' to passing women my brain doesnt process it until theyve walked by, damn, need to work on that.

megatron, as always, has a few girls come up to him that he knows and gets talking to them and one of them asks if i could do a favour to get her friend in but there is too much effort involved (i wont explain it wasnt actually much) but its not like she introduced herself or anything and megatron wouldnt do a favour for my friends that he sorta knew already. also he had said to her "oh yeah shah will definitely do it.", which annoyed me as he does that as a way to frame it as though he is the alpha male (dont like the word) and im his pawn or something, it annoys me when he does that and he does it a lot. also i dont like it when people ask for something off of me instead of letting me have the opportunity to offer on my own accord i.e. i like to do favours but not if your demanding or asking for them; this isnt all the time but its a general thing in certain situations.

so anyway megatron is speaking toa group of girls he knows, or knows one of them and im just on the edge, i always get that feeling im not wanted in the group or is it just with megatron....i dont know. this isnt cool, until some random girl who's quite cute just says "this is my boyfriend!", instinctively i say "yeah" to her group of friends and i claw her, i think she clawed me first though which was weird. then we joke around i saw we're getting married and having a kid called john, they ask me my last name and they laugh at the whole name together i handshake and introduce myself to the whole group as we move over the room to some of her other friends but i walk off after a while because i didnt get a good vibe or she walked off i cant remember too much or maybe i pussied out as she came across as jokey about the whole thing and i dont get tooled by anyone let alone chicks.

later on another girl did the same but her friends drag her away as shes too drunk apparently, who'd of guessed and why am i boyfriend material? still courage for girls cold apprroaching, they were using Tim's rsd shit too.

one fo the friends of the girl my friend was getting with walked by and i said HEYYYY she came over but megatron started gaming her straight away, i cant remember if he waas earlier but the only thing that annoyed me was the fact he ALLLLLLWWAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS talks about how girls are age and younger are really immature and how he only goes for older women and although he didnt fully game her or try you could tell he was sorta making sure what "zone" not to put him in for a later date but still didnt admit to it after i was like ';)'.

earlier towards the beginning of being in the club he also somehow knows ive been reading about game or something or at least thinking about it a lot and kept being like "oh shah lets see your skills youve been learning, youre the player here" in a way that again was so he could feel like the man, i wanted to punch him in the face and kick his head in and do this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83dHET-3gZM



My friend basically acts like hes in a relationship with the girl he was getting with, at first they made out, then she got with another guy so he fell out with her, then they had a talk and were meant to be getting together but she got with that guy again and now he was angry, now we're at the point to where i go into the car because the night is going and i cant open sets and my voice jsut cant break the barrier. My friend was having talks with people about what to do, seriously it was hilarious, as everyone comes to go home about 10minutes later im in a very bad mood for not opening sets and pretty depressed and feeling hopeless, anxiety a little too. megatron is giving 2 girls he knows a lift and he is like "oh hey, shah is a good guy, the perfect guy why dont you get with him" but in a sarcastic 'im better than you way' and asks if they think im hot in a way so he can feel better about himself the cunt, re-watch that video if you wonder how i felt by him doing this, im in silence apart from when i said "dont worry about megatron, hes just trying to feel better about himself by thinking hes better than everyone.". ignore anything anyine says, even my friend was just saying drunkenly "you meet a girl....you think shes amazing, finally someone in this world!! then they just turn on you and just get with someone else, think you know someone OHHHH WHYYYYY!! okay im gonna stop now" then repeating it kinda word for word or in different ways and that is a genuine quote from what he said. one of the girls mentions she got with this guy we all know but is a dick, i spoke, "he has a girlfriend, a good friend of mine even though hes a loser". she started saying how he doesnt and that they werent going out. she and i and everyone in the car knew they were going out, i say well done on that and if she feels any better on ruining a relationship and hurting peoples feelings for a one night stand. im in a bad mood. i didnt say it bitchy just matter of factly.

I then questioned about this whole gaming thing; i was looking at megatron, i was think about a few other players i know and how theyre so egotistical to the point they see no flaws in anything they do wrong, they couldnt even begin to see if something that was totally there fault, was even partly their fault. i wondered if thats jsut the kinda guy you have to be, i mean theyre all cool guys for when you first hang out with them or if you chill with them in moderation but theyre kinda dickish guys and pretty difficult.

but then maybe its because i need sleep and had a few beers (sometimes getting tipsy can make me a bit depresssed towards the end of the night), i dont think it to the extent i do now but its still ringing in my head a little, maybe i am just tired.

we got home and my friend talked about how he didnt care about it anymore from the car into the flat and then the entire time in the flat until i fell asleep on the sofa. i was woken up by megatrons SPAM, she threw a heavy book at my face and after i woke up she threw a remote control at me as well (apparently she tried shouting and this was the only other way to wake me up). time for college, i stood up and went out the flat. megatrons housemates are nuts, the bitchy girls who say i spent £10 of their electricity since last friday as im always their ( i havent even switched a light on in their house, seriously...)


I compliment a hot girl whos next to me in class on her top, because she's hot i always think if i compliment it comes across as desperate but i did it strictly from a friendly POV, complimenting people is something im working on.

on the bus home a girl who i had spoke to before, for like 5minutes, was on it. we started talking, light kino like shoulder grabs and forearm grabs, eye contact but she doesnt really hold it much hmmmm confusing, i tell her to sit down next to me as im sitting down, she does. we talk about stuff like college, then travel and such, im not sure if shes nervous because of sexual tension or just because some weird guy is coming onto her a little. i think im qualifying her about being adventurous and partying, going out, being a bit of a rebel. im not sure if i was doing it right.

me: "you're a party animal"
her: "howd you know that?"
me:"i just do, its cool ;) what partying you doing then?"
she went on to explain about her heavy next few days of partying.

i made the worst flirting known to man, we went passed a place called dairyland and i said "ah id like to go there, milk some cows", her: i dont know if you can there actually, just feed them, Me: ah, but i want to anyway, itd be fun, i bet cows enjoy it id love my nipples being played with ;) (how lame hahaha) then she asked if male cows have udders and i said "yeah its just one big one, wont get much milk out of it though" that wasnt flirting but i thought that was hella funny joke to make. im so fucking cool. i also made a few naughty dirty remarks about what she did on her holidays, and she was being agreeable with me to not not break rapport. there was always that slightly awkward vibe, which i guess is good. I wasnt sure where we stood when she was getting off at her stop buut she said "give me a hug", we hugged and she left.

one problem ive got is being direct (which before you read about game and cold approaching, is pretty bad for getting girls) or getting with girls in who are linked to my social circle in anyway. i felt i took a step out of my comfort zone (pretty lame comfort barrier im talking about), next time ill close her, i said im going to a college party on tuesday and she said she is too, so then i guess.

feedback please, its quite rambly but this is journalling.

peace and love

Shah

EDIT: when i
Author:  Diego1234567 [ Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:10 pm ]
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FRIDAY 17th DECEMBER, we go out to truro to a place called VANNILLA, its the place i talked about on saturday that is one big dancefloor, we didnt get there till 1ish, hell we didnt leave the flat till 1ish, which annoyed me as we couldnt go to wetherspoons to warm up by saying 'hi' to everyone and shit, so we went straight into an extremely loud club, the dancefloor was packed but all i could see around the bar and such were middle aged women or girls getting with guys (making out/very touchy). i could have opened the odd one but it was so loud my voice hadnt warmed up and i was still hella tired, after writing the last journal i fell asleep after i posted it and woke up to people telling me to go out).

we went out to another club where it was dead, it was the same club i mentioned on monday, the few women that were around were on the dancefloor with guys. the 2 girls we were with (who were with their boyfriends who were already our friends) were getting hit on by some guys for ages. i like that our friends/their boyfriends didnt even pay attention, we all just did stupid dancing then left as it really was shit.

back at vannilla we dance a bit. Megatron is talking to some hot girl hes friends with, ive got her on facebook buut never spoken or anything, i think "at least make a new friend", i walk over before even thinking of speaking to her and call megatron a 'pussyhole' whilst joking around HBass (ill call her) turns around and has put on a hoody with a cat on the front and says "ive got pussy", i laugh and say i love pussy. we shake hands and i say my name, she says "parley? what kinda name is that", it vaguely rhymes with my real name, vaguely, i jusy say "yeah ive had it all my life", i notice we havent let go of our handshake (i think she was just really drunk though) and she says "you've got clammy hands". oh god. just in case your wondering, my hands were actually very dry, it was hers, i say "im a sweaty man". this is all i really say to her.

we end up going Tescos and playing around in the cage trolleys with all the bulk product until we get told to get off them, play catch with some meat, buy food and go home.

Evaluation: i need to do this shit sober. I personally think its because i didnt have a chance to get in the mood, as we went straight to a loud club you need to be drunk in. To prove my point i will go out tonight SATURDAY and be alone/sober go to a wetherspoons and quieter places and just say 'hi' to people. have a few chats and maybe game some people. This will show me where im at. I dont finish work till 10pm tonight so ill have to hurry up and get changed

Feedback is appreciated

Shah

x
Author:  Diego1234567 [ Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:50 pm ]
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hahaahaha this thread is hilarious mate and sounds like your having a lot of fun with this stuff.

looking forward to the next thrilling installment lol.
hey thanks man, i thought i replied to this maybe it didnt go through. glad to hear someone is enjoying my thread! :D
Author:  Diego1234567 [ Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:23 am ]
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MONDAY 20th DECEMBER 2010, this night didnt go as planned and theres no gaming in it but something decent was learnt.

okay, i go to our staff work-do (a bunch of 40year old mothers and a few grandparents), it turns out these people knew how to party. i neck some vodka before leaving but not enough to get me too drunk as i PLANNED on going out after the shindig.

so after lots of chatting and fun, i go outside and one of them has a smoke and shares it with me, anyway this smoke seemed to fuck.me.over. the manageress' husband came outside and asked for a drag on a normal cigarette and basically told us how for the 2 years he quit smoking he's been standing near smokers to enjoy it then he sung us ukelele music.

i went inside and i couldnt concentrate, i was just monging to some fat guy dancing alone on the empty dancefloor with THE WORLDS WORST DJ EVER. i danced with all the women in our party even though my dancing is shocking. then i realised my manageress' husband was tripping out, he must have smoked something else....

It was then i learnt something; although i NEVER do this stuff anymore, not in a while anyway, if i plan on doing anything i cant even try it out. I realised this before but its always good to get more reaffirmation.

Some guys who come into my shop i work at come into the place, i go over and we joke around whilst getting cheeky £1 pints, i see one of good friends step-dads who gives me a few life lessons which is why i posted this event up.

He said "women, never take a break in your life or change the way your going for her, its a 'hey come and join my ride but i aint stopping honey!!!!'" he was pretty drunk but he made a lot of sense, ive read Way of Superior Man and although ive always thought thats what a man does, a year ago i wouldve said "unless you love her that is", which is real lame haha.

Then me and this big guy basically spent the rest of the night busting each others balls for ages, its funny how when someone is busting your balls its more fun than when your just sitting around shooting the shit. Its like guys shit test each other to see if your cool or something, i know do, its not on purpose but sometimes you bust on someone new and if they get all emotional then its like "hmmm i wont call you when im bored" aha
Author:  Diego1234567 [ Fri Dec 24, 2010 12:25 pm ]
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THURSDAY 23rd DECEMBER 2010

man i havent been out since friday, barely even been out the house really apart from work and gym. saturday too tired from work. Monday wasnt even gaming either. tuesday i didnt even have enough money for the college party entrance ticket lol. (literally nowhere in my banks or savings...)

So thursday we hittin' zone, the place i mentioned last thursday. me and megatron go wetherspoons for some food and a drink, some older woman starts chatting to me and we have a talk about being small haha it was good, she was funny; when i got IDed she said "oh he's my son, he's okay!!". nice start to an evening.

we get back to his and drink, im only having enough to loosen me up for this club, like although i always think im more sober than i am, i remember having pretty sober thoughts. watch A New Hope then our friend gives us a lift to the club....we get there at 12 because megatron was being difficult then the line is about half hour and we both need the toilet and literally everyone keeps pushing in and we're laughing about it and we get started on 2 times whilst waiting in line without even looking or saying anything to anyone.

As we're waiting some girl walks passed the line, a hottie, so i put my hand out on her arm and say "hey listen to this joke" i proceed to tell 2 awesome jokes, i wasnt actually opening her as such, i was just being social and me and megatron were laughing at these jokes and i thought megatron told them better so i thought "hey lets be social and get others involved.". shes like "what the fuck thats terrible" whilst laughing and then she kinda stands there smiling a little after, i think she thought i was hitting on her waiting for me to further the interaction and by the time my brain prossessed this she had walked off (a good minute probably haha).goddamit. next time further interactions as much as possible, even if you're not 'gaming her' just get to know them keep in the mood.

we get in its double price apparently after midnight. goddammit people pushing in and megatrons lateness, i wanted to go at 10pm. toilets have ques, i wait and get in. goddammit i cant piss whilst surrounded by 10guys waiting to piss or right next to me. im shy, ive missed too many beginnings to movies at the cinema to this shit. i go upstairs toilet and finally i get into a cubicle with actual shit on the floor. nice. ive been saying hi since i literally opened the door after paying to get in but even though i say it kinda loud people still cant hear me or ignoring me and the few that do hear dont reply back.

megatron buys me a drink, it takes ages and ages to get served and some girl pushes in, HBuh-oh, and says "fuck off". thanks. megatron and me "haha what? we were here first.". shes being rude im not in a good mood for this shit, after a bit of argueingy talk i call her 'fat' after i think she insulted me. im not happy about that and was a bit dickish. megatron manages to get her to get our drinks whilst she gets hers after a lot of debating. We talk to her after and have a good chat but megatron says that hes me and im him. uh.oh.

still no one replying, i think im sorta purposely not saying it loud enough or at least very loud so i dont get replies. this club has some soap-snow machine going on that is covering my glasses every 2 seconds.literally. i dance for a bit and see HBuh-oh she smiles and says hi to me, finally a reply goddammit haha. we dance i bring her in close and start moving my hands up and down her back and sides and sides of her arms. after a second, she apparently gets a phonecall to meet her friends. No one in the world could here anything on that dancefloor. i laughed.

anyway after failure and failure of not approaching, i see HBuh-oh again near the bar and i say hi and we get talking, im still pretty set she hates me so i kino her again and claw her and all that shit, get close proximity, we're near the bar and now ive got her back to me and my hands on her hips. She still hasnt said anything nice to me, extreme teasing apart from she thinks im Shah and now ive realised ITS ON, ive gotta let her know im me...

Some guy is talking to me at the bar and im not sure if he's trying to amog or just pure drunk but HBuh-oh tries to get a drink out of him and i say she's my ex and he says "do i love her?" and shit im just joking around with him and shes still giving me shit so i grab her by both shoulders and say "i see, you act all mean and stuff but i know youre really caring". we're close and eye contact is heavy, she starts being nice and basically putty in my hand now. i was being serious about that, it wasnt just a cold read. i tell the guy that shes cheap but pays people in love (push pull? i dunno, i say that kinda stuff all the time anyway)

she realises she doesnt want a drink so grab her hand and we go for the exit, we make out, the exit is packed with people leaving, so i use it as time to qualify her, simple things like people pushing us around and im saying "its cool in a person who respects people in a night out" she mentions how she is usually like that and i qualify her on being adventurous and shit whilst running finger up and down her back, rubbing the back of her neck a little and she's returning the kino with grabbing my ass. damn i work hard on my glutes, glad someones paying attention to them. during this she asks me about my name and i just say we were busting her balls because she pushed in and im really Shah.

as we're leaving i introduce her to megatron again and in the que by saying "hey you two hug!", i get her number by saying "whats your number". crazy i know. then she's found her friends who she mentioned were staying around her house, i ring her number so shes got mine. shake hands with her friends and i get in the car and go home. get a text from her asking what my name was again as she was still confused about the whole matter-she texted first not bad for me!!

then megatron got in the car and our friend drove us off (she waited 2hours minus temps , in her car for us so we could party, such a nice girl, shame she spent the night arguing with her girlfriend over the phone. crazy lesbians.)

megatron threw up a lot on the way home and at his flat. funny stuff. i watched empire strikes back and went bed to megatron's SPAM having sex who bedroom talk is argueing.

lesson learnt:

okay i pussied out with opening proper sets, i realised i need to maybe shoulder grab people walking by then say "hi, im Shah" this is it. I find opening people walking passed easier personally. so ill start there.

I shouldnt have insulted the girl, it was bad of me and i feel bad about it right now writing this thing, people get plenty of shit each day in their lives no point adding to it maaaaan.

I actually spent the majority of the time in set with a girl who apart from allowing kino, didnt like me, this shows kino/compliance really fucking is the only way to tell how much she likes you. I also proved to myself i can go pretty far with kino and stuff without any 'IOI's'.

going out tonight. No excuses, ive had a warm up night after a few days of not being out, so i cant use that. Its xmas eve so splent of women about and im going bars and stuff, so no noise problems. Im also going SOBER, so alcohol is not a factor, im bringing my new video camera out too, to film bits of the night-friends bday party.

Day2 HBuh-oh.
Author:  smooth99 [ Fri Dec 24, 2010 5:07 pm ]
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THURSDAY 23rd DECEMBER 2010

Some guy is talking to me at the bar and im not sure if he's trying to amog or just pure drunk but HBuh-oh tries to get a drink out of him and i say she's my ex and he says "do i love her?" and shit im just joking around with him and shes still giving me shit so i grab her by both shoulders and say "i see, you act all mean and stuff but i know youre really caring". we're close and eye contact is heavy, she starts being nice and basically putty in my hand now. i was being serious about that, it wasnt just a cold read. i tell the guy that shes cheap but pays people in love (push pull? i dunno, i say that kinda stuff all the time anyway)

she realises she doesnt want a drink so grab her hand and we go for the exit, we make out

Day2 HBuh-oh.
dude , smooth lol
Author:  Diego1234567 [ Fri Dec 24, 2010 7:46 pm ]
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THURSDAY 23rd DECEMBER 2010

Some guy is talking to me at the bar and im not sure if he's trying to amog or just pure drunk but HBuh-oh tries to get a drink out of him and i say she's my ex and he says "do i love her?" and shit im just joking around with him and shes still giving me shit so i grab her by both shoulders and say "i see, you act all mean and stuff but i know youre really caring". we're close and eye contact is heavy, she starts being nice and basically putty in my hand now. i was being serious about that, it wasnt just a cold read. i tell the guy that shes cheap but pays people in love (push pull? i dunno, i say that kinda stuff all the time anyway)

she realises she doesnt want a drink so grab her hand and we go for the exit, we make out

Day2 HBuh-oh.
dude , smooth lol
ah thanks man :D just livin the dream!
Author:  Diego1234567 [ Sat Dec 25, 2010 1:48 am ]
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um went out tonight, weatherspoons in newquay thinking itd be packed. not even one set to approach, literally. its my friends birthday party, hes born on christmas day. so im not gunna bounce or anything and ditch him, we celebrate it. i get a bit of face-tit by accident which was nice. went into another place, no one in but again its his birthday.

get into some bar ive mentioned before, sort of my local and i see 2 of my oldest friends back from RAF and again theres like a few girls around but its packed and mainly people i sorta know as local customers in my shop or friends/aquantances so i dont open any sets just have fun with my friends.

actually i sorta did open one set. some girl ive seen walk around town a lot and shit but she was with some annoying gay guy whos waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy over the top. when she comes out shes looking for someone and i just im him even though i was the opposite of the description of the person, apparently she knows my older brother (This is an immediate no-go, girls have no attraction for me if they know my brother as they think im cute....im taller...2stone heavier than him and have stubble but hey).
Megatron had literally appeared from no where that night as he came behind me and hugged me. He lives 12miles away. then i saw him walk up to some girl, make out with her and walk off. he did not know her. Anyway he was with me when speaking to this girl and i noticed him take over set, not on purpose really just being him (i think anyway lol), i noticed something that ive kinda known before and actually done before but i guess it never sunk in:

Hug girls a lot and soon and make them massive and over the top. Any time i see him around a girl hes flirting with, like the one he made out with, he hugs straight away. Also hugs set up for perfect position and proximity for make-outs. USE THIS MOTHERFUCKER.

like when i attempted to pick up girls when very drunk down the beach each summer (only once or twice did i do it as me as the guy leading or alone) i used to do this as an 'opener': Hey have the police been down here...oh right ..okay well hi im Shah *handshake* then id say that was too formal and give them a hug. USE THIS AGAIN IT WAS ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD!!!!

i did this journal entry because i felt that was a good note to make, hugs haha. also if Megatron ever overtakes me in set, dont be pissy and whiney thats what a bitch does, im no bitch, either attempt to overtake or just observe and note what hes doing and how.


peace and love guys Shah x
Author:  Diego1234567 [ Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:10 pm ]
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short and simple. I did terrible. Im going to have to up the ante.

Went out last night, had a lot of eye contact off one of the new girls that cme over to the hosue before going club but was just chilling.

long queue into club, its packed, more women than ive ever seen. didnt open any sets.... i couldnt, i tried saying "hi" to chicks walking passed, i should of grabbed or touched the shoulder or arm to get attention but i didnt because i was failing. i like to have a bit of momentum, start off small then go up big. I didnt though. I sorta got a reply of one girl but i was so inhead by this point i didnt reply until i chickened out.

Then i got a bit depressed, i flirted with all the girls i was out with but then everyone got lost near the end so i sat by myself, depressed. then i walked into the girl from earlier at the party i just mentioned. hug. hand grab/carress, she said "ive gotta find my friends", me: "Dance!". we danced i got in close and got a make out, then after a few minutes her friends dragged her away in the dancefloor lol. i cheered up a bit but it was too late.

we got home and she was there, way too drunk, had a chat but in the morning i woke up to her leaving, we hugged and looked at each other a lot as she left. probably see her on thursday for ZONE.

Anyway after realising megatron getting laid i ran to his computer but he ran out too and we looked at each other, smiled and he said "go downstairs im doing what your gunna do anyway"

He put on "just had sex" and danced around whilst the girl looked unimpressed. i said earlier if someone gets laid that song has to be put really loud after whilst semi-joking around. goddammit i want to be doing that haha

PLAN CHANGE

I know i can do opinion openers, so i might start doing them.

also i have to go to quieter places to start off with, i usually dont because no one has money to drink out too much, so its straight to the club but i know this is MY self-development journey and ive got to improve and opening is my biggest problem, ive proved i can actually do this shit when i do open and i know it doesnt bother me getting rejected.

I actually felt failure, i usually look at the bigger picture and see the feedback and how to improve in most things in life but this time, i truly felt like i failed.

*im going to speak to one girl a day that i find attractive, whether its gaming or small talk

*try out opinion openers on nights out, early on just to get into the habit

*fucking arm grab/shoulder grab girls as they walk passed then say hi.

gotta stop being a pussy, Shah, ive also decided im not going to go out with friends at night until ive opened 3 sets alone, so ive punished myself for failing. I had no excuses this time
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