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| Author: | CharlesX [ Wed Dec 08, 2010 3:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | How I got out of the friendzone. |
So this is a field report of how i got out of the friendzone. AFC period I first met S almost exactly two years ago in an accounting tutorial. Like a typical oneitis she took my breath away. Long dark hair, big brown eyes, tanned skin, massive DD breasts and a sexy self-confidence that intimidated all the men around her. Over the course of the 12 week period through which the course ran, i managed to stutter enough afc small talk out about what mark she got in her quiz or what class she had next to become facebook friends (in true afc style). Over the next few months, with the self-confidence of hiding behind a computer screen I began to chat with her often, often enough for a bit of natural game to shine through and to convince her to hang out on a regular basis. I will spare you the painful narrative of what happened over the following 22 months, but it went something like this. See if you can find all the afc ways i managed to fuck this up. - Told her about the fact my ex girlfriend was pregnant with my child. - Counselled her on her problems with her ex-boyfriend whom she was still sleeping with. - took her out to a club, and was too scared to make a move when things were getting flirtatious. - Regretting not making a move, sent a TEXT MESSAGE (a fucking text message!) saying something to the effect of í think your great i want to be more than friends´. and subsequently got told that she sees more as ´no more than a friend´, but really, after all that who can blame her? - A few weeks later, went to the club with her (again just us two), got invited back to her house and was again too scared to make a move. - Got very needy and started texting her every day, most often to no reply. (she still has all her text messages on her iphone, so i went back through our message history to see this, i dont even remember doing it). - Sent her another TEXT MESSAGE (fuck my life!) saying i want to be more than friends (this was about 6 months after the first one). - After getting another rejection, got bitter at her and told her i never wanted to talk to her again. So about a year went by, with us passing by without acknowledgement whenever we would see each other at social functions, and me feeling immasculated every time i saw her. Now at this stage one can really see that there is no chance i will ever hook up with this girl. In fact, after reading this your probably tempted to email me, advising me that i should perhaps forget about game altogether, find myself a nice fat girl with low self esteem and just grab onto whatever i can get. About a year after that last text message, i was bored and decided to send her a message, something to the effect of ´´is it faux pas to download music at work, even if i pay for it?´´ Not expecting a reply, i put my phone away in my bag and had a chuckle to myself. When i took my phone out 6 hours later, i had a message ´lol, probably. What are you doing tonight, do you want to get a coffee?´ Taking charge of the situation So i still had obvious issues. One, she obviously missed me enough to want to reignite the friendship, but thats all she saw it as, a friendship. Two, she knew i was likely to start preching my feelings again so she kept her distance, ignoring calls and most invites to hang out, making it difficult to game. However, in the year that had past many changes had taken place. 1. I had begun to game and read as much as i could about gaming, allowing me to take a much more scientific approach this time, as opposed to the ´follow your feelings´ based approach i had initially started with. 2. I had seriously worked on my inner game. I was having regular sex with a few girls at the time and no longer felt insecure sexually or intimidated by women. 3. I had the benefit of thinking i had probably already fucked this up too badly to rectify, so i wasnt really trying to win her over, just to have fun and perhaps leverage off her onto other hot girls. 4. I had a mate who is into PUA, so whenever my inner afc looked like shining through as my oneitis took over, he was able to pull me aside and give me a subjective view on what to do. So we began to hang out again, and this time with the benefit of my PUA approach i made the following changes: 1. No tolerance policy on her talking about ex-boyfriends or anything. Any time she brought that shit up it was met with a ´´I really dont care, lets talk about something more interesting´´. Its probably obvious to most but it wasnt to me, DONT be her counseller, be a man and let her know that your time is more valuable than to listen to her men problems. 2. I began to neg her, and harshly. In her mind I was the guy who was always chasing her, who thought there was nothing wrong with her. I had to change that mindset, I needed her to believe that she needed to work for my approval. Because of our history and also comfort level (we were after all good friends) I negged her much more harshly than I would in a normal situation. For example, she got a new fringe, and as she walked up to me for the first time with it i said in front of a large group of people ´´holy shit! have a go at the fringe on the cunt!´´ (sounds very harsh i know, but it is the nature of my relationship with her that this is OK, of course use your judgement and dont make her cry). Another example was asking her what she thought she was out of ten, hotness wise. She told me she thought she was an 8, and i told her she was being a little optimistic. 3. I began turning down her invitations. Again to get her out of the mindset that i was always available. I needed her to chase me. If she sent me a message saying ´´hey wanna meet up for lunch´´ i would reply (a few hours later) with ´´hey sorry not today, i might be in your area later next week though so i might give you a buzz´´. Same date, but on my terms. 4. Fake girlfriend. This one is controversial but it worked for me. Again to get out of her mind that i was always available (this wasnt just for her, i was gaming a few old strikeouts at the time), I changed my facebook relationship status from the ´single´it had sat on for two years, to ín a relationship. Whenever she brought it up, i playfully avoided giving her any real information. It drove her crazy. My fake relationship ended after two weeks, but all of a sudden I was no longer the guy that was always there if she wanted it. Of course, be smart, and dont ever tell her the girlfriend doesnt exist. Or anyone for that matter. 5. Assume the sale and up the party vibe. If i asked her to lunch on sunday and she said ´maybe´, i messaged her sunday morning as if she had said yes, with a ´fuck lunch, lets go to the aquarium´. 6. Act like a man. If you take her out, have everything planned out and seamless. If she asks what movie you want to see, dont um and ah and ask her what she thinks, just make a fucking decision. Pull your shoulders back and act like a man in all situations, women dont like pussies. So now we had a situation where things were returning to a level playing field. It was now time to conquer my fear of making a move, and make this shit happen. The catalyst event: So it was established that as an end of exams celebration, she would come and stay at my house and i would take her out and show her my area (i live about two hours away from her and where we both go to uni). There is honestly nothing all that interesting about this night, apart from the fact that i followed the 6 principles above, made sure she had a good time, made sure all my friends just happened to be at the club so i looked like a local celebrity, and went in for the kiss at the right time. The best piece of advice i got during the night, however, was from one of my friends. I was thinking about taking her to another club (the place we were at closed at 1am), and kicking the night on as she seemed to be having a great time and we had started to get very touchy feely. ´´take her home now, dont give her a chance to get tired or in a bad mood or think about it, just take her home now´´ And so i did. When we got to my house i pulled her close and kissed her and you better believe I fucked her 12 times that weekend. So there we have it. 3 months ago she wouldnt reply to any of my messages, today she gave me 3 blowjobs and spent the rest of the day crying because Im going on holidays for a few weeks and she doesnt know how to deal without me. Theres no such thing as the friendzone, the friendzone is just the area you get put in to give you time to figure out how to be a man. Stick to the science, change her mindset and if all else fails, you were gaming five or six other girls at the same time, right? |
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| Author: | Spye [ Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:30 am ] |
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bahaha what a great post. Good job mate, it gives me a kick in the rear to do the same. Have a good one man! |
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| Author: | Surielx [ Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:20 am ] |
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Salut! F*cking applause!! And this is the post that brought me back the faith in mankind. What you did was awesome, I enjoyed reading this post probably as much as she sucking you off. I have to confess, I like to play with the friends zone. I have to wait 7 long months now for my parents to move to our new-build house so that I can stay at our current apartment completely on my own (finally!). So I know that for now my living conditions aren't perfect to bring girls back home but in six months time this will change 180 degrees. That gives me the power to actually put a girl in the friend zone. Reverse the role! Especially at the high energy level or right after any close. Keep it up Spye! Congrats! Salut! Surielx. |
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