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Author:  modafinil [ Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:11 pm ]
Post subject:  2 girls; Good rapport and phone conversation - no call back.
Two separate girls.

Girl 1: Lives in my apartment complex, we met while I had the cable guy over because we needed to go through her apartment. We had a good conversation, and we were comfortable with each other (go to the same school, same age, etc.) We exchanged numbers (as she insisted) so we can coordinate the next time the cable guy came over.

There was some good text game that first day, and after that I only contacted her to further coordinate the cable set-up. When I couldn't reach her (if she was at work), I would leave a voicemail explaining what was going on and she would text me back later that night. Later on, the cable set up eventually happened and I had to go through her apartment once again. This time her mom was there, and I think I did a great job at wooing her. I was witty, funny, and displayed myself as a good student in her profession.

I called the girl afterwards, and we had a great phone conversation. We were cut off at like 6 minutes in, and she called back immediately and we continued to talk for another 8 minutes. I was very witty and funny, and I made her laugh a lot. I sensed the greatest amount of rapport when she said "I KNEW you were going to say that" to my last joke. I mentioned that we should get together and explore the city sometime this weekend, and she said that she couldn't this weekend but to try next, which I accept. I call her next weekend, AND I left a voicemail - but she never got back to me.

This is strange. I thought we hit it off. I would expect at least a text back, but nothing. Especially considering she lives in my building. Not sure where I went wrong here. If she only talked to me so I could get the cable set up, that would be very shitty.

Girl 2: she is in my class.

Very pretty girl in my class. I've been meaning to talk to her for a long time but never did. I'm a pretty funny guy in class. I'm not on 24/7, but I do make cracks every now and again that everyone enjoys. I sat next to her one day, and I had no pen or paper. She seemed to notice before even I did, so she offered me some. We spoke to each other a bit, and it was pretty nice. I continued to sit next to her in class, and made a couple of jokes every now and again commenting on things in class. It wasn't until I asked her about a book she was reading one day, that she was completely enamored. I read a lot, and so this really helped me. She was surprised to hear that I wasn't an English major, and just seemed really impressed by a lot of stuff I was saying. We walked out together after class (something I always meant to do, but never timed right until now), and we were talking about a movie when, as we walk out of the elevator, I start to pussy out and walk in the other direction. She saves the day by asking me "Wait, so what were you saying about the movie?" I continue to walk with her, and the girls she usually walks with start to drop like flies and so it's just us. We walk pretty far, and although we walk past her turn, she continues to walk with me telling me she'll just turn later. I take this is a good sign. As I make my turn to go to work, I tell her that we should study together, and she said "yes" but that she couldn't this weekend because she was going to be out of town. I say "okay" but ask her for her number anyway, and she does this super cute twist with her legs as she gives me her number, and I'm in.

I manage to fuck things up the next day in class by not speaking to her at all. I hoped to salvage it by calling her later that night (it was a Friday) and leaving her a voicemail (short, not dragging - "Hey, it's ___. Call/text me back." But she never does. Of course, she was out of town, but no response is odd. I find it awkward to talk to her in class during the next week, and force myself to text her the next friday just out of "Oh, what the hell!" just to see if I got the right number. No response either.

I know I messed this one up by not talking to her in class, but seriously... return a phonecall or text.

With Girl 1, I have no idea.

I know this is a LOT to read, but it would be great to hear your input.
Author:  modafinil [ Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:22 pm ]
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Come on, guys. 65 views and not one reply? I know I should just move on, but I'd like to know what I did wrong. Things started out alright, did I seem too desperate with the voicemails? Should I have just texted? What happened?
Author:  Royce90 [ Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:55 pm ]
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Hey so I think no ones replying because there's no simple answer, you really have two choices as I see it you can either continue gaming them pretend like it never even happened perhaps the girl with the apartment just 'run into her' and arrange something more concrete or you can call them on it in a cf non needy kind of way even playfully imply their rude, I would probably go with option 2 and if it was delivered in the correct way (with seeming needy) and with the correct attitude it could be effective. And don't call or message again at all, to arrange plans face to face you need to let her (them) know you won't tolerate that.

Just my 2 cents :)
Author:  Tutu [ Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:45 pm ]
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there is a perfectly good answer. you shouldnt stop playing after 5 minutes with the girl!!! if you did the start well which i hope you did then you have just built the ground for the next level. when you dont talk to her, its fine. but when you call her later on and keep calling her even when she isnt calling back, then you loose her for good. becoming needy for the girl is never the answer. i think that was your problem with the 2 girls.
Author:  Braddock715 [ Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:24 pm ]
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why didnt she call back?
Author:  modafinil [ Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:19 am ]
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I finished class a couple of weeks ago, so I don't see girl 2 anymore. I do have her number, but in the past she never responded to my call+vm, or text. So I think I'm out with her, unless I decide to try again later (I really don't have anything to lose since I won't see her again).

I haven't seen the girl from my apartment in months. I haven't even bumped into her. If I do, I'll act like it never happened (esp. because it happened so long ago), but I guess calling her now is out of the question.

What I really wanted to find out was what I did wrong. Not knowing this makes it difficult for me to move on because I don't know what to work on. Oh well.
Author:  daverb [ Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2 girls; Good rapport and phone conversation - no call b
It's going to be hard to talk about everything that went wrong because there is certain things that will be hard to tell, if she really was giving you IOI's, ect.

In any event, here are some things you need to avoid in the future:

1. Don't call on a Friday, or Sat. (never, unless you are dating)
2. Don't make vague plans, always have a direct idea
3. Don't make it seem like a date, but more like something you are doing and and she should just come along. A better idea would of been. "hey, i'm going to the city this weekend you should tag along it will be fun"
4. When she said try again, this is generally a decent IOI but I find it not the best. At this time it would of been best to indicate you will be very busy for awhile. I would of then not talked to her for awhile. By trying again in such a short time frame shows needyness..yep even a week is fast. I would of waited 2-3 weeks, mainly because if she was 75%+ interested previously she would of said something different, so if her interest level is low you need to create some value.
5. not speaking to her in class was a very bad move as you know.

Just some basic tips that you can improve for next time

Quote:
Two separate girls.

Girl 1: Lives in my apartment complex, we met while I had the cable guy over because we needed to go through her apartment. We had a good conversation, and we were comfortable with each other (go to the same school, same age, etc.) We exchanged numbers (as she insisted) so we can coordinate the next time the cable guy came over.

There was some good text game that first day, and after that I only contacted her to further coordinate the cable set-up. When I couldn't reach her (if she was at work), I would leave a voicemail explaining what was going on and she would text me back later that night. Later on, the cable set up eventually happened and I had to go through her apartment once again. This time her mom was there, and I think I did a great job at wooing her. I was witty, funny, and displayed myself as a good student in her profession.

I called the girl afterwards, and we had a great phone conversation. We were cut off at like 6 minutes in, and she called back immediately and we continued to talk for another 8 minutes. I was very witty and funny, and I made her laugh a lot. I sensed the greatest amount of rapport when she said "I KNEW you were going to say that" to my last joke. I mentioned that we should get together and explore the city sometime this weekend, and she said that she couldn't this weekend but to try next, which I accept. I call her next weekend, AND I left a voicemail - but she never got back to me.

This is strange. I thought we hit it off. I would expect at least a text back, but nothing. Especially considering she lives in my building. Not sure where I went wrong here. If she only talked to me so I could get the cable set up, that would be very shitty.

Girl 2: she is in my class.

Very pretty girl in my class. I've been meaning to talk to her for a long time but never did. I'm a pretty funny guy in class. I'm not on 24/7, but I do make cracks every now and again that everyone enjoys. I sat next to her one day, and I had no pen or paper. She seemed to notice before even I did, so she offered me some. We spoke to each other a bit, and it was pretty nice. I continued to sit next to her in class, and made a couple of jokes every now and again commenting on things in class. It wasn't until I asked her about a book she was reading one day, that she was completely enamored. I read a lot, and so this really helped me. She was surprised to hear that I wasn't an English major, and just seemed really impressed by a lot of stuff I was saying. We walked out together after class (something I always meant to do, but never timed right until now), and we were talking about a movie when, as we walk out of the elevator, I start to pussy out and walk in the other direction. She saves the day by asking me "Wait, so what were you saying about the movie?" I continue to walk with her, and the girls she usually walks with start to drop like flies and so it's just us. We walk pretty far, and although we walk past her turn, she continues to walk with me telling me she'll just turn later. I take this is a good sign. As I make my turn to go to work, I tell her that we should study together, and she said "yes" but that she couldn't this weekend because she was going to be out of town. I say "okay" but ask her for her number anyway, and she does this super cute twist with her legs as she gives me her number, and I'm in.

I manage to fuck things up the next day in class by not speaking to her at all. I hoped to salvage it by calling her later that night (it was a Friday) and leaving her a voicemail (short, not dragging - "Hey, it's ___. Call/text me back." But she never does. Of course, she was out of town, but no response is odd. I find it awkward to talk to her in class during the next week, and force myself to text her the next friday just out of "Oh, what the hell!" just to see if I got the right number. No response either.

I know I messed this one up by not talking to her in class, but seriously... return a phonecall or text.

With Girl 1, I have no idea.

I know this is a LOT to read, but it would be great to hear your input.
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