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Author:  HI! My name is [Dsian] [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:53 am ]
Post subject:  Time to grow a pair
I have been on this forum and the chat room for almost 5 months now. I think it is time to stop talking and start doing.

I am going to be sarging for the next 3 days and nights straight. I plan to open direct and try to transition to use this routine that I thought off.

I Start by going up to the girl and being direct and complimenting her. Then I look at her hands and pretend I notice something.

Next step would be me looking at her hands surprised and kind of amused at the same time.I will try to let her ask what is it.

I ask her do you want the good news first or the bad news. If she says good news I tell her well it looks like you are a girl because your pointer finger is longer than your ring finger. That is great news for the both of us dont you think?

Then if she asks about the bad news. I say well I read your palm while I was checking if you were a guy or a girl and I noticed you have a retard line.

Then I can transition to either reading her palm more or talking about the pointer versus the ring finger apparently according to Hobbit if there ring finger is longer than their pointer then that means they might be lesbians. If it is longer I can say hey are you attracted to women sometimes?

I am going to field test this and report back to you all everyday. Wish me luck!
Author:  JSmooth [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:39 pm ]
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GO GET EM! ---> Look forward to the Field Reports after you get back from your days out there in the field! :)
Author:  Chillburg [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:36 pm ]
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Best of luck, I hope you dont get distracted from your goal by AA.

Chillburg
Author:  HI! My name is [Dsian] [ Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:41 am ]
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Day 1

I went to the mall in the morning walked around for a bit and approach anxiety ravaged my poop chute and I did not approach.

In the afternoon I went to Granville Island in Vancouver walked around and saw an hb 9. Looked like a model just sitting down. Approach anxiety was setting in but before it could penetrate my butt cheeks I went in.

Me: Hey, I dont do this very often but you are really cute so I decided to come over and get to know you.. Hi my name is..

Her: Aww thanks (blushes)

Me: So what are you doing here?

Her: I am waiting for tarot card reading

Me: Interesting do you believe that stuff works?

Her: Its just for fun we will see (She said this twice) (I dont know why)

Me: That is cool.. It seems you have an accent where you originally from vancouver?

Her: I just moved here two years ago from Quebec. I never noticed I had an accent.

Me: Well you do and its nice

Her: Thanks there are some bad accents out there like the New Jersey ones

Me: Yeah those are scary (I love people from NJ) So are you here alone?

Her: No I am with my boyfriends sister

Before I could reply it was her turn I think I could have said something like hey tell me what your fate is I am interested I will wait here. I feel bad I could have used my hand technique in here by doing a fake reading of her palm. I wish my brain thought faster.. Hopefully day two will be better and I grow bigger balls over night.

Cheers!
Author:  Linckia [ Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:58 pm ]
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:) Nice work Pinoy
Author:  Chillburg [ Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:00 pm ]
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You did good! Especially since it was your first approach.

The AA will slowly disappear the more approaches you do :D
Author:  neurotico [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:11 am ]
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Good work man... I look forward to your next FR's. :-)
Author:  HI! My name is [Dsian] [ Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:56 am ]
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Day 2

Today I left the house early because I felt like crap last night and did not go do club game. Today I approached and opened 7 girls but the conversations I had were not that major. I mostly asked for directions and talked to this one HB8 about native American sculptures.

I walked the streets of Vancouver and got lost which lead me to some art galleries. I managed to speak to an HB8 again on the sky train and I got her to laugh(laugh seemed genuine) because of the situation I had put myself in. I told her I suffer from a disease called wanderlust. I basically got lost. Did not get much out of her because she left in a hurry and reassured me I would be okay. I think I could have gotten more out of this interaction maybe if I said "You sure do you promise? Is there a yellow brick road I can follow?" or something to that effect. She gave me directions and I found my way back to Burnaby after some navigation.

Tonight I was supposed to do night game also but I feel lazy and just decided to stay home and watch inglorious bastards with my brother I have been putting it off a lot.

I think today was still a good day for me because I am not as tense anymore about opening as I was yesterday. I think as time goes by my fear of approaching people shall lessen. Today was different also because I spoke with a lot of people everywhere I went I tried to make conversations with the sales clerks about anything. I think when you get into a mood of talking it helps you when you open. Its like stretching or shooting a few baskets prior to game time.

Tomorrow I plan on doing day game again and doing some night game. I plan to hit up a pub in gas town after I spend new years eve with my family.

I cant wait to sarge tomorrow. My main focus will be to make friends instead of gaming the girls or picking them up. I owe this to a video shared to me by Linckia. She and a lot of the people in the chat room have been a tone of help. Check the Link out.

http://www.the21convention.com/2009/09/ ... t21c-2009/

Cheers!
Author:  HI! My name is [Dsian] [ Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:03 pm ]
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Day 3

Yesterday I did two approaches it was really interesting. They were friendly but still I could not get a good conversation going. I think they sensed the tension in me. Women are really good at reading stuff like that. I was supposed to go out last night but I drank too much and just went to sleep after midnight. Tonight is my last night in Canada so I am going to hit the clubs and approach harder than the past 3 days. I think its time for more progression.

Goal tonight is 20 approaches!

Cheers
Author:  HI! My name is [Dsian] [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:41 pm ]
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Day 4

Did not do any approaches today. I spent the day with my family and relatives. Had dinner at there place and just had fun ^_^ I think pua is important but it should not lead your life. Tonight I will go for my 20 approaches meeting up with my friend. Onward!

Cheers
Author:  HI! My name is [Dsian] [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:25 am ]
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Day 5

Decided to just rest tonight. A month ago I won a party at a big club in the city I am from. I can invite 100 guests so I am also going to use this as motivation to open more sets and meet more people. My goal is to fill this club up and to meet as many people as possible. I will be sarging 3 hours everyday after work in the hopes of getting this done. By the end of the month I should have enough people hopefully.

Cheers!
Author:  PUASpice [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:57 am ]
Post subject:  its like fingernails on a chalkboard
Look, pinoywolf

I admire you going out there, but the direct openers aren't working for you man.

Every hot babe out there gets compliments from choads all the time, as an aspiring pick up artist, you MUST NOT DO AS THEY DO.

The fact that you are getting out there is great! Don't stop please!

I would try some opinion openers, find some short ones to break the ice, throw in a joke, fluff a bit, NO ASKING QUESTIONS, hook her like a yellowfin, chick crack psychology, cube, 5 questions game for starbucks and peace with your little napkin scrap of glory- till tomorrow.

but please, do not compliment her, regardless of the situation- If a girl came up to you and said she reallly liked ur shoes, do you think she really liked your shoes!
HELL NO, she is hitting on you, not the shoes.

IF YOU MUST notice something about her, get her to talk about her jewelry, or something interesting about her

"I knoticed that bracelet, It looks like its handwoven, I see a lot of those around that are store bought, did you buy that one?"
(they are always made by somebody, and now she still feels special, and she is talking - although I would normally throw this in with fluff, you could use it as an indirect compliment)

As for the retard line and the male female bits, I don't like it.
I understand you may have used it and it works, but It sucks as an opener, because ur not really negging her, the fingers are hard to explain, most girls will find it quite rude if you ask if they like other women UNLESS you know EXACTLY what you are doing.

Not to be too pessamistic, I love the fact that you are getting out of the house.
Keep up the good work, DON'T give up.
Author:  JR* [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:28 am ]
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PUASpice - I respect you have your own opinion, but I don't agree with it in the slightest. I find that in day game, the direct openers hook the easiest because they're straight forward and honest about your desires. If you use an indirect opener, you hook them for a while, but it almost seems like as soon as that topic is over - there's nothing else to talk about, you can fluff, you can tell jokes, etc. but awkwardness will grow because through her mind she's thinking "Why's he still here?'

Going direct leaves no doubt in her mind why you're there, and it's progression for you to ask for her number. If you get a number going indirect, conversions are much less because honestly, they may find you a charming guy - but at the same time, the question dwells in her mind, "Is everything he just asked me an excuse for him to get my number?"

You can claim that you don't have those problems, you can claim anything you like and I won't judge, but I believe that if he's starting out doing Day Game, he should go direct, he should practice carrying a conversation after going direct and try to close. If the girl isn't interested, at least she's not waiting around for you to finish your opener getting her opinion, running your stack, and then rejecting you and not giving you her number, or giving you a false one, or not replying to your messages/calls.

This is entirely my own opinion, and it's up to pinoy what he does, I just thought I'd throw my thoughts into the mix =]
~JR*
Author:  PUASpice [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:57 am ]
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Respect, absolutely JR. I do agree with you to a degree.

I am trying to push pinoy to change his approach. Personally I hate canned openers, but what I hate more is a discouraged PUA.

Pinoy is getting nowhere yet, and through calibration can get past the dead ends and the sticking points.

I will give you this too: Direct openers are FANTASTIC, IF a forced IOI is used.

Mystery always said, "If you keep doing what you've always done, you'll keep getting what you've always gotten."

JR, I am not disagreeing with you, because I have seen some conversations go just that way. It is up to the PUA to show that he is interested in the girl through eye contact, pauses, (remember: eye contact and a pause together is the definiton of sexual tension), and the leading. OPEN, RAPORT, SEDUCE In that order.

Thank you JR good stuff, Good luck pinoy!
Author:  Hank Moody [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:54 pm ]
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ye well done Pinoy, were both moving mouaintains at the moment.

i agree with both JR and PUASpice. i think opening some sets indirect at the start of a day out. will keep u motivated. and help relieve the AA more. it also menas your not feeling so flat. because you cant see yourself progressing.

i opened some indirect sets today easily. where yesterday i was terrified. then i died a death doing direct. but im not feeling discouraged at all because i saw clearly how my confidence has grown even since yesterday.

try it. it cant hurt.

ps thanks for your post to me, i wanted to write a post back to u. were actually doing this hahahahaahhhhahahahahahahahaha.

and remember im expecting us to be winging at some oint soon, so no pressuer but get good quick.
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