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Author:  LeoN7788 [ Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:16 pm ]
Post subject:  first time using material at a rave.. advice needed
So ive been reading up on the PUA scene for quite a while now and thought i would give it a good try last night. So i went to this big rave in London last night for the first few hours i was chilling having a good time with friends then i left them in search for a girl..it was a sausage fest!!

So anyway i sat down next to this HB8 nice long blonde hair, real nice body not to skinny just right so i kind of started a little AFC saying:
Me: Hey what's up you having a good night?
HB8: Yeah i'm having a quality time how about you
so for the first few minutes we just chatted about normal shit but within about 20 seconds of meeting her i was using light kino on her legs and arms.
then one of her mates comes over HB6.5 and as soon as the HB8 started to say something i then went:
Me: '*name* are you not going to introduce me to your friends your so rude...' then looking at the other girl still in a relaxed laid back state 'you cant take her anywhere can you'

Now this worked amazingly well couldnt believe it as soon as i said that she put her arms right around me and hugged me and looked at me smiling and i could see the DDB eyes
so i was teasing her for a bit about this and then some how i got out of her that she hadnt bought a drink all night guessing that all the AFC's had been doing that!

Me: well you can get me one then as its been a free night my company dont come for free and i just kind of had that cheeky smile
she then agreed got me and herself a drink then i said where's all your friends and i think this helped massively as i introduced myself to her mates they all got on with me and i was being the aplha male being centre of attention and could tell she was trying to get my attention away from them. So after a bit i then just said
Me: '*name* come on lets have a dance' so i just grabbed her hand she didnt resist as she was squezzing my hand back. I found using the alpha male thing did work i was a bit skeptical in demanding things of her but anything i said to do and go somewhere she would abide to.. just shows that the new woman with wanting to take control is ballshit :lol:

so as we got onto the dancefloor we were touching each other all over and gettin real close by then i should of k-closed but i didnt because there was still time we then went to get some more drinks i paid this time didnt want to come across as tight..(was this a bad thing to do AFC or not)

so we sat down again i made a DHV story on where i had gotten to up to now and then i was just asking her questions like whats your dream whats the craziest thing you've ever done whats your job she was a banker so i just looked away in disgust shoke my head and said your losing me here she then hugged me got close again. and it was a good one good money so i said 'well you can be my sugar momma then', plus she was 10 years older (31 she looked 25 though!) this worked well etc the talking was going really smooth there were no uncomfortable silent moments.

so i then came out with the statement of so wheres your bf then expecting her to say she didnt have one she said back home in liverpool straight away i thought fuck what do i do? ( i will never use that line again!!!!) i was really shocked by this because i was getting IOI's left, right and centre from her!!!

i changed the subject v.quickly but kept the kino going and so was she. I negged her some more and was being C&F quite a lot she then got me another round of drinks :D and we just fluffed for a while and then we went dancing again with stronger kino than before.. so after a bit of dancing she then said she had to find someone so i thought thats ok ill just dance next to another group after a few minutes i then wondered where she was and then found her dancing with this other bloke i thought wtf what have i done whats going on??

so i went up to her and said i gtg now and then she introduced me to this AFC i said hi then ignored him and then as i started to walk off she said dont go and then he fucked off :lol:
so we then sat down fluffed some more negged her quite alot and was being generally C&F alot now thing now was that it was getting close to closing time and her friends were there i tried to get her away and go back on the dance floor and try a k-close but she said she didnt want to incase she lost her friends.. now the kino was still happening alot and the IOI's. Should i have just gone for it even though her friends were there and she had a bf or not?? i felt there were so many oppurtunities but i left it to late really. i also found that any neg i used worked a dream and she would get all touchy and close with me definately recommend using them to anyone!

What are your opinions PUA's? i felt for my first time it went kind of well but i was just really disappointed in that i didnt go for the k-close earlier as i think i might of even gotten more than that but hey ho ill never know now... should i of just came out with a line when she had her arms around me like..

i'm finding it real hard to try and not kiss you right now.


I look forward to your feedback :)

LeoN
Author:  Shadow-Flavour [ Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:28 am ]
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If it was me, I would've gone for the kiss the first time---I know you said you still had some time left, but that's no real matter. You don't have to leave right after the kiss. Make-out with her and then continue to stick around and hang with her, it'll in fact increase her attraction to you because she'll see you as somebody who's not just out for a lay, you're hanging out with her for more than just the kiss.

The boyfriend just means that he's probably a chump and you came across as more alpha and so she was attracted to you. Personally, anytime a girl says "I have a bf" to me, I say "That's great, he'll give you something to do when I'm not around." And then I continue with whatever I was doing.

Hope that helps, and awesome report, sounds like a mad fun time!

Flavour
Author:  d.penguin [ Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:32 pm ]
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one aspect of the community i am finding it really hard to understand is why everybody gets soooo obsessed with one set or target and spends sooooo much time trying to get them..

if it was me,, i'm no pro but i would have left when i found out she had a bf.... most of you people don't have issues with cheating.. why??? why not just go find someone single??

i find it alot easier rather than gaming one girl all night to be bold, fast and in david x's words "relentless".... if it doesn't work out move along to the next set.. this is more fun and with in one month my anxiety has dropped 100000%

why not find the girl to game that doesn't make you an ass?
Author:  LeoN7788 [ Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:08 pm ]
Post subject: 
Cheers for the tip flavour.
Quote:
one aspect of the community i am finding it really hard to understand is why everybody gets soooo obsessed with one set or target and spends sooooo much time trying to get them..

if it was me,, i'm no pro but i would have left when i found out she had a bf.... most of you people don't have issues with cheating.. why??? why not just go find someone single??

i find it alot easier rather than gaming one girl all night to be bold, fast and in david x's words "relentless".... if it doesn't work out move along to the next set.. this is more fun and with in one month my anxiety has dropped 100000%

why not find the girl to game that doesn't make you an ass?
well i was going to then i thought hang on a moment she had been giving me IOI's way before i heard this and there was loads of kino going on she didnt give any resistance not once if it was a serious relationship she wouldnt of given me the light of day so i thought what the hell why not.

and i guess the reason i stayed with this girl was that she was a really cool down to earth chick and also it was one of the first times ive approached someone using PUA based material so wanted to see if it worked before using it in the future!

Next time i go out though like you said i will try and be a bit more 'relentless' and approach more sets etc
Author:  TheJ [ Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:48 pm ]
Post subject: 
Buying the second round is a good natral thing to do. Would you do the same for your buddies? Yeah sure, so it's fine to do with her. You don't want to buy her drinks if it can come across as: "I'm buying you this in exchange for your attention which I would not be able to get in any other way". See the difference?

"Where is you bf" is a horrible line. Never mention him. She might end up mentionning him, and even then it doesn't mean anythinkg. In this case, my comeback line might of been in the direction of: "Well then, why do you let me hit on your all this time?" delivered with a cheeky smile. You'll then know if you are loosing your time and it conveys that you know the sub communication that was going on.

Anyhow, to the poster above, high quality women often are always in relationships. They jump from one to the other when they see greener grass. If you wait until those are single you might wait your whole life. Am I saying that there is no single high quality women? Hells no, you will get your chances in there with the single ones too, but if you give up on those with 'BFs' you are passing up a lot of opportunities.
Author:  LeoN7788 [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:37 pm ]
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cheers for the tips. But when she went off and i saw her dancing with someone else is this some kind of test to see if i would react by trying to grab her attention again i'm guessing me saying im going didnt get the response she anticipated? Or is it maybe because i didnt go to forward with her quickly enough e.g k close etc?
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