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Author:	Clocks [ Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:03 pm ]
Post subject:	Direct game training
I'm 22, live in Surrey (UK) and plan on gaming in central London I've had some success on Tinder in the past and done indirect approaches but never really gotten past that. Because of Tinder bypassing the approach stage, I feel I got semi-decent on dates (good at escalating, always getting a snog/make out and usually feeling boobs and a couple of times more) but I have weak approach skills and getting to the comfort zone is my biggest weakness IMO. I went for a free 1hr consultation with direct London coach Johnny Berba and liked what he had to say, so signed up for his 6 week training.

Author:	Clocks [ Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:05 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Direct game training
First 2hr session: Johnny had me starting off by us just giving a compliment then leaving. Then we moved to him starting a convo and me joining - at this point I did well with a girl and Johnny suggested we go for a walk. We walked, I teased her a bit and we chatted. JB said we're gonna have to go as I have more women to chat to (98% sure she would have gone on an instant date with me), so I took her number and gave her kisses on the cheek. Texting her now. After that, JB had me spontaneously (like girl walks past and he'll tell me to go after her) get in front of women, gesture for them to stop with my hands and then tell them why I stopped them (you're pretty and I wanted to talk sort of thing). Started off quite well, got a few flattered taken ladies but pretty receptive to conversation. After a few of these, though, I started doing worse. Almost every approach had the girl walking past me as I was trying to talk. JB was giving me constant feedback, and I think I became too outcome dependent and lost my fun vibe. Quite a few of these approaches and I ended up with a pink haired girl who seemed very receptive and was very obviously willing to chat. She was looking for somewhere to eat and I asked if she wanted to go for a walk. JB said he had to go and told me to call him after (I took this as a cue to go for the instant date). We went to a map, I asked if I can eat with her and she said ok. We walked, it rained like fucking shit and we shared her little umbrella. Sounds cute and we got to cuddle but I was getting soaked and it was really awkward. We walked and we walked, I had my arm round her, kissed her cheek at one point (which she said was very quick or something unimportant like that). I suggested we go somewhere else cause we were having trouble with the noodle place, she said she quite wanted noodles. I said it again, she said I can go to the pub if I want but she wants noodles. She was so wet she said she would get takeaway because she wanted to go change clothes, I decided to abort. I could have gone for noodles (idk what after that, though) but was really wet, tired and uncomfortable. Didn't get her number cause she's only here for a bit from Canada. Results: + not much AA, because of JB's spontaneous instructions to go, I didn't think and approached plenty + started off well, as I can chat and get on with people well + got a number within 10-15 mins and was going to go on instant date but abandoned - lost my mojo after a while, I think because I became outcome dependent

Author:	Clocks [ Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:25 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Direct game training
Friday night - love triangle Went to a pub/bar to meet with some friends I haven't seen in a while and some of their friends. Prolly about 30/70 on people I know/don't know. Because I didn't know many people and I tried chatting to everyone and being social but it was hard at first because I was sat at the edge of the table as there was no space at the table. After someone moved I took their space and got into it a bit more. Lots of banter and joking around with the girls, I brought up sexual topics early on (joking about sleeping with 100 girls in 2 weeks, talking about sending naked pics on snapchat, etc). Lots of teasing the girls. One who was chubby liked me and I felt her up because I was a bit drunk (lol). Groped her thigh, felt her pussy through her clothes (before she moved my hand), felt her tits through her clothes. She was saying how we need to go for a drink just us 2. Was telling me about her nipple and clit piercings, said I could do whatever I want with her in private, implied I could go back to hers tonight... ...but I wasn't interested. I moved round the table and started talking to someone else a few mins later, very touchy feely, rubbing her back, her arms, her neck and hair. We chatted, I got close, teasing, very sexual and direct at this point. She was interested but said there was talk of me kissing the other girl (was on the cheek, lol) and she didn't want to upset her friend because the friend clearly liked me. I told her, tough cookies, I don't like her, I don't owe her, we all get rejected, etc. while still being sexual with this girl. Went for a few kisses on the cheek (while trying to be discrete, because I didn't wanna be a dick and blatantly flirt with this other girl right after I was sort of flirty with the other one) but she kept pulling back. At one point I told her to give me her number and she gave that fake moment of hesitation but I wasn't having it. Later, we bounced to a weird rock club down the road. Chubby friend was on me again asking if I can go for a drink with her some time (she came across very needy and I did feel bad), so I said we can but I like her friend. She went to the friend and talked to her about it... Anyway, she looked sad after that but the girl I liked (who is actually 35, maybe 'a woman' would be a better description) was happy I did that, didn't feel as guilty. I had my arm round her, we had our faces together when we talked because of the noise, kissed her on the cheek and she only gave a few bits of token resistance at this point. I said let's sit down, she said ok to talk (lol). We sat, we kissed, I felt her thighs but she stopped me staying on her pussy/boobs too long. Chubby girl left without saying goodbye and looked sad after I turned her down. I felt bad but oh well. As we were all leaving, I said about going back with the girl I was with. She was like 'oh no not gonna happen! if my sister and my dad weren't in then maybbbbbbbbbbbe there'd be a smalllllllll chance' (meaning I'd absolutely be going back and getting her naked). We kissed a bit and said goodbye. Been texting her this morning and she's definitely a lot more forward, no acting like I'm seducing her. I've got her qualifying a lot of text lol. Tomorrow I'm going to Johnny Berba's free seminar on getting into state and getting rid of AA. Then Monday I'm having another 1-to-1 with him.

Author:	textytext [ Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:48 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Direct game training
well, you are getting the right coaching it looks like. i hope he teaches you more than technique though. the good ones also teach virtue. gaming should be pleasurable for both the man and the woman. if you fuck them and then make them feel like shit then that's bad gaming in my opinion.

Author:	Clocks [ Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:13 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Direct game training
Quote: well, you are getting the right coaching it looks like. i hope he teaches you more than technique though. the good ones also teach virtue. gaming should be pleasurable for both the man and the woman. if you fuck them and then make them feel like shit then that's bad gaming in my opinion. Yeah that's something he preaches and right now I'm agreeing with him. I'm definitely finding chatting to women to be a FUN experience and I know some of the women are feeling the same, so win-win

Author:	Clocks [ Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:21 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Direct game training
Seminar Went to JB's free seminar today which was about getting into state and AA. Found it really good to be honest, and met some like minded people so finally have people to game with! Went out with 3 other guys after the seminar, did some approaches (10-15 probably). It wasn't as many as with JB but it was nice doing it at a slower pace and I think it really helped keep me relaxed as hardly any girls walked right past me and I had more fun. There was this fit girl (don't normally do ratings but she was an 8-9 IMO) I was chatting to and we walked for fucking ages in London. She was with her friend from Australia, I stopped them, we chatted then went for a walk. I made my intentions clear, touchy feely on her arm, her leg a couple of times, kissed her cheek a couple times, held hands for a bit and had my hand on her bum a bit. To be honest think I should have gone further. I talked about us having sex a lot to get us in that frame. I didn't really know what to do, we walked and talked for ages and good banter but as her friend was with her and we were walking for a while I think it sizzled out. We split after a while which was a shame because I feel that could have ended up with more if I knew better. Oh well, good practice Another notable girl was one I sat down with, extremely friendly - making even more effort than me to keep the convo up but after 5 minutes mentioned she had a boyfriend (not in a way to put me off it just came up). She was still very friendly and knew I was chatting her up, so IDK if I could have got her to do something. Should have asked for her number anyway. She was with her aunt and cousin and I went in for fun after my friend blew out trying with the cousin a minute before lol. Other than that, good fun. No numbers or kisses on the lips but felt very good opening once I got into state and now have some more things to practice (escalating, knowing how to handle 2 on my own (as other guys didn't feel confident to approach with me some times), how to keep going from convo). Tomorrow my 1-to-1 with Johnny

Author:	Clocks [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:28 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Direct game training
Late to update... 1on1 with Johnny: Went very well. I'd gotten into the habit of just going and saying 'you look really nice' and was making it routine. By the end of it I was stopping the girl, then saying something and letting it be natural rather than just a script I run around stopping girls with. Conversation's flowed better and Johnny encouraged me to start teasing more. Was gonna take a sexy french girl for a walk and lead to drinks but Johnny wanted me to continue meeting people so told me to get the number (even though we both knew she'd be leaving England the day after). Have been snapchatting each other light flirty messages but as she's in France it's a bit pointless. Oh well Another nice chick (portugese I think) I was doing really well with (we both think), she had her head tilted, was talking to me a lot. But when I asked for the number she didn't want to give it. I said to JB I felt it was a bit rushed and he said if I think it's rushed it probably was for me. Told me I should have shared some things about myself, had a more genuine nice conversation and that I was too far away (I was). Next time. I stopped 2 more girls but they weren't great looking. They were trying to edge away but Johnny stepped in and it was amazing to see him turn it around. The one he was mostly engaging was really turning around even hinting for us/johnny to do something with them tomorrow. JB said we had to go talk to other girls and she was utterly shocked, even taking a physical step back lol. He then called it out and asked if I noticed her reaction completely changed & that she was chasing us (right in front of them, very funny). Wished them well and moved on Overall good session. Improvements: 1. Hardly any (if any) walked right past me. Even if they were initially very reluctant, I kept them engaged longer 2. More natural and spontaneous convos Need to work on: 1. Really converting the tough girls like JB did in the 2 set with me 2. Getting the number (if not instant date) when I can see they're interested. Clearly the way I asked for the number blew me out 3. Need to get physically closer to the girl. Sometimes I was stood really far away

Author:	Clocks [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:37 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Direct game training
Wednesday - date Date with a 35 year old I met on Friday (one before last - late updating). Met in town after work. She had on a sexy little dress, half way up her thighs and cleavage out (including sexy white bra). I got there and was sure I was gonna be a bit naughty with this lady. Hug/cheek kiss/greet, then walked down to the pub garden. Went outside, I wanted somewhere away from other people but there wasn't really any secluded area. However it was very quiet. I went to sit down one side she said 'Oh I thought you'd want to sit with me' or something like that so I sat with her (was going to after a few mins anyway). She talked about a cut she had on her knee, drawing my attn to her legs. I stroked it and kept my hand on her thighs. I stroked her thighs loads, trying to get to her pussy but she kept stopping me. We'd kiss for a few seconds (snogging/making out) but then she'd cut me off because she's worried about people watching lol. Same with hand on her boob. We moved to get some food because she felt herself getting drunk lol. Ate food, did the same stuff. Said she liked my hand on her thighs. Joked with the restaurant staff that she was really sexual & she found it funny but got embarrassed. Did some kokology test. Thirdly went for a walk. I tried to isolate but really wasn't anywhere. Park was busy... same resistance. She hinted that she wanted me to continue the night (rather than her go home) so we went for a drink. She was looking around for somewhere isolated to sit (which makes me think she would have been up for getting fingered or something but in an empty corner or something. Shit, writing this now I should probably have fucking lead her to the toilets because there was this hallway that was really empty.. . Oh well, progressed by sucking on her neck a bit. Did some more kokology tests which she digged. Night ended. Aftermath: how-to-reply-with-this-break-up-text-he ... 80583.html What I did wrong: I think I was too sexual too fast. No push and pull here, no teasing. She seemed very open (getting me to stroke her legs and stuff) but didn't let me go much further. I was constantly leaning over to her to reach her. If I look at PUA videos you see the guys get the lady to sit on their lap or at least just lean back. I think I was too easy/available. Should have made her work for it, starting off with neck/hair and hand stroking. Time to revisit Double Your Dating maybe... Today is Saturday and I'm going day gaming in London with the guys I met last week at the seminar. Tomorrow I have a date planned with a fit muslim girl lol. Should be interesting.

Author:	Clocks [ Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:52 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Direct game training
London with 2 other guys Got there before the others and was going to try and get into state by talking to people on my own. Didn't happen, I couldn't say anything (other than a few his and ask for directions) before someone else got there. Did like 3-4 hours around London Bridge/Tower Bridge areas. Found sitting down sets of 2 quite easy but then I might be fooling myself into thinking I was doing okay (conversation-wise) because girls aren't as likely to walk away as when they're stood up as they were sat first. Probably approached 15-20 sets in total Early sets I abandoned a few because of discomfort in running out of things to say. Later on I didn't really run out of things to say and also tried to stay in set longer even when I did. Notable sets: 2 European girls sat on a bench. Was chatting to them for ages, trying to be touchy feely with one and was told 'don't touch me please' lol. We talked for at least 20 minutes, at one point they were asking where my friends were, so I asked why, did they want to go meet them? One of them actually wanted to lol. Anyway, the girl I fancied didn't seem to be biting. Asked for their FBs but they didn't want to give as they didn't know me. After stopping 2 women, a bearded short guy with a camera immediately walked over who they said was their friend and that they couldn't talk. The guy was giving me a dirty look so I said hi and he forced it back. Douchey guy. Left not long after 2 American girls I stopped were responsive. I got touchy feely with 1 and she reciprocated. They were looking for something to do and said if we wanted to go to a bar that's cool but they'd probably wanna go to a club after. I talked about having sex with 1 in a jokey way and she went with it. I started to walk them back the opposite way they came to meet my friends but couldn't find them. They said take one of their numbers and SPAM them to meet later if we wanted to do something. Some little guy (late teens maybe?) walked by and they recognised him from their hostel and he was telling them about a concert just finishing. They said let them know about later and left. I gave the blonde one a kiss on the cheek but she wasn't expecting it and it seemed a bit weird lol. Basically, I think they were definitely up for something, depending on how the clubbing/partying went later if we met with them. I think they would have been DTF but I don't know London well, I don't like clubbing and I wasn't about to go home, get changed and come back on the chance of fucking one of them... 3 women lying on grass. Me and a friend approached (this is the only approach we had a wing, for some reason we seemed to go after 2 sets on our own all the time... maybe no faith in the other guys as wings lol). As soon as we crouched down and opened them, they said one was married with the fiance sat on the bench in front and the other 2 were engaged/married, all while laughing (including the fiance on the bench). Pretty funny, nice rejection so no hard feelings from us, we left it at that. 1 woman I approached was a 26 year old teacher living here but from Canada. Had her chatting for a good 10-15 mins and found out she was SAVING HERSELF FOR MARRIAGE. Do people still do that? Even decent women in their late 20s? I asked if she was a virgin to which she replied 'that's a very personal question!' Didn't ask for the number because honestly what was the point lol. Not sure I would have gotten it either as she really did seem a world apart (even though she was just a few years older) with her missionary work in Kenya, her being a chemistry teacher and not having sex. 2 women, 1 after another, walking down a path. Me and my friend agreed one each and then he went for the one I wanted to go for (misunderstanding) so I was forced to open the other lol. I opened her, she kept walking so I walked alongside her for a sec but she wasn't actually attractive to me so I walked on to where my friend was gonna open the other girl. He didn't for some reason... so I ran after her, stopped her, opened her. She was asking what I was doing in London and I said hanging around with my friends / chatting to people. She said it sounds exciting and I called her out being sarcastic which made her laugh & called her a cheeky girl, to which she replied 'too far!'. After she left the 1st lady started talking to her (she'd caught up at this point) and they were laughing. We guess they were talking about how I'd just done the same thing to her lol. Other than that, other girls. Probably should have approached single girls more often than pairs. Bit disappointed I didn't really have any success but I try and keep in mind that guys like Richard La Ruina, Mystery, Johnny Berba, Sascha PUA all have loads of rejections under their belt so I'm feeling okay. Things I think I need to improve on: 1. I think I need to escalate. Not necessarily physical but I need to stop having so much small talk and make it more flirty and direct. 2. Just get better lol

Author:	Clocks [ Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:29 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Direct game training
Date with muslim girl Best date I've had. We arranged to meet at 1 originally and the day before she hinted she might be late, so I asked when we can meet so I'm not waiting... she said 2, then changed it to 4, then 5 lol. Each point I showed some resistance and at 5 I called her and let her know I could have seen other friends in this time. I thought she was just messing me around and didn't want to meet). She gave fair reasons and we met at 5. Hug/cheek kiss and went for a walk I planned on leading the whole time but got lost so we walked in the wrong direction for a while but had a nice chat. Walked other direction got lost again. I was a bit worried it was making me look bad but we had banter. Got to the bar, sat in the corner, had a great convo (she's intelligent, funny & interesting). After an hour or so I pulled a chair up next to her to see something on her phone and then stayed. Kissed on cheek soon after, she was receptive so I went for lips. We ended up snogging with me stroking her face, neck and as I held her neck I let my arms drop so they pressed into her boobs. Subtle escalation She said she was really shocked because she thought I was shy or somthing lol. Didn't think we'd be kissing. We bounced and held on the hands on the way, drank, ate and got even more hot n heavy with me blatantly squeezing them sexy tits and rubbing her hot pussy through her jeans or whatever she had on. Her breathing got really heavy and I could be imagining it but I think she was humping my hand a bit. We finished after a 4-5 hour date and got the train back, very cuddly and kissy on the way. We said we'd do something soon. I was so into this girl I was thinking about blowing off my pua training for her lol. Then she dicked me around a bit with texts the next day (yesterday). I think we'll go out again this weekend but we'll see. She is fucking lovely though Lessons learned: 1. Do some homework before and really learn where to go and what are cool places 2. Don't be sexual (but do be physical) from the start. Leave it until maybe half way in the date to avoid my failure with the 35 y/o

Author:	Clocks [ Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:44 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Direct game training
1-to-1 with JB Best session I've had. I was feeling down because I was obsessing over my muslim lady and unhappy because she hadn't replied to my text I sent an hour or 2 before (lol #beta). JB tells me this will help get my mind off her and he's been here but there really are other girls out there. I decide I can't be bothered getting stuck in long boring convos so I'm just gonna go really direct as to not waste my time. JB thinks it'll be good to try My 'openers' now go something like this: Hey, I know you're in a rush (if she was, this isn't a scripted line) but I thought you were attractive, and I had to stop you because if I don't' you're gonna run off' (basically justifying why). From there, it's just a quick who are you/where are you going/where are you from, then telling her I'm busy, she's busy, I'm gonna go in a sec and not see her again so give me the number and we'll go for drinks. Results: Probably did around 10 approaches (less than the usual 15-20+ (but it was 1.5 hr session rather than 2, with 30 mins talking)) and got 3 numbers and gave another girl mine. The girl who I gave mine was in a 2 set. I approached, she was like 'oh no not again', we talked, she said I was nice but didn't want to give me the number. Her friend was egging her on telling her I'm nice yada yada, in the end the friend took my number to pass on to her friend (her idea, not mine and JB said go for it). Probably could have turned her negative response round if I was better but oh well. Took me hardly any time to get into state this way, literally 2 or 3 approaches. Another girl was shit testing me (JB recognised the attraction and tests and I had an idea that's what she was doing). Wouldn't tell me where I was from and was being cheeky. Got the number after some banter I texted all 3 numbers on the way home, had 2 replies and out of those 2 I wanna see just the 1. So we've got a date going tonight. Felt alpha as shit on the way home last night. If numbers (and only 1 out of 3 flaked) are this easy why am I spending 10-15+ minutes talking to a girl when I can get the number in literally 30seconds lol. If I did this 7 DAW how many dates would I be on?! Side note: this training is killing my gym. I get in late and don't have time to eat properly. I lost a lot of weight (15lbs) some months ago and not put it back on. Feeling skinny but clearly not an issue for the girls, just annoys me Muslim girl texted me back, just a bit late. I'm gonna make sure I don't get sucked in again and try and arrange another date this weekend. Lessons learned: 1. Being really direct is powerful. Starting off with a big open and then doing 10 minutes of small talk is anticlimactic and kills the strength of the open. Not very time consuming approaches 2. Approach in a 'I don't give a shit but let me know now' sort of way to get past their bullshit 3. Just text 'hey nice meeting you' then 'want to go for a drink?' in the first 2 msgs.

Author:	Clocks [ Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:44 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Direct game training
Tuesday Date A girl from Monday session with JB. What a fucking nutter! So many shit tests and just a shitty attitude. I met her in London, and we started to walk to a pub. I touched her arm/shoulder/back a bit as usual on the way (didn't open with hug/kiss on cheek because of the position we were in when we met). I could tell she was a bit full of herself from what she was saying (talking about how she deals with high level people or something as a p.a. in London). We got to the pub and she stopped in the doorway saying she wasn't going in because it smelt of beer LOL. I didn't wanna let her get her stroppy way but didn't know what else to do. Told her she was high maintenance and we'll go to another bar I know. On the way she talked about psychology and she knew I was touching her a lot to get her comfortable with me (but she didn't mind too much) - more lols. Never had this before but thought it would be fun to try and deal with (her analysing my every bit of kino). Got there, got her a drink and we talked outside. She was telling me about some shitty app she wants to develop that sounds rubbish. I went to kiss her on the cheek and she pulled away, it's too soon or w/e (don't think I've ever had a girl not allow a kiss on the cheek). She said shall we leave, so I said ok let's go this way. We were walking a certain way and she didn't want to cross the road because I was 'telling her what to do' lol. So she's making it hard for me to be in control so I reframe it and say something like 'ok I'll let you lead if it's such a big deal to you. But find us somewhere interesting and don't get us lost.' We ended up in a park, sat down, and talked with our beers for a bit. She was asking about how many girls I met the other day, how many numbers I got, etc. and said something ludicrous like 'I don't think this is going to work' (LOL), so I called her out this blatant shit test. 'What's not going to work? I haven't proposed' I said. I did The Cube. She tried to analyse every question I asked her but in the end she ended up liking it. She was laughing, I asked can I put my arm around her (would never do normally but this was a really weird situation) but phrased it in a way that made it seem like it was a really silly request and she was being daft. She was okay with it. We talked, cuddled and I held her hand a bit (but she told me to stop after a few mins of stroking her neck/shoulder/back lol). We talked about what we think of men and women, attitudes towards relationships, etc. even talking about expectations and her saying she's looking for a relationship. THe fact that she's on a date with me and wants a relationship made it seem obvious that she was considering one with me. Nutter. She did acknowledge than one reason she wanted a boyfriend was for sex, although I couldn't tell if she was just saying htis to seem more normal because I wouldn't be surprised if she was a virgin or at least very inexperienced. She even said she'd let her boyfriend sleep with other people as long as he was honest. LOL what? You're stingy about kissing cheeks/holding hands and yet you'd let your boyfriend fuck others? Again I wonder if she was trying to seem cool or normal or some shit. She's 19 and has had 1 boyfriend off and on and I'm guessing her social skills are why (decent looking, at least a 7 and dressed quite sexily this night). We went for a walk and I'm getting kinda bored of the shit tests (even though I was winning her over). She asked about what music I listen to blah blah blah really boring small talk questions to 'get to know me' to see if we'd be a good fit (silly, why do my interests have to align with yours? - i told her this). She didn't wanna hold my hand when walking. She was talking about her grandma and how she'd done some violin lessons as a child (yawn - stop trying to act like you're posher than you are). She started asking about my parents and I said I'm not interested in talking with parents. She said she wants to get to know me. I told her some basic facts about them, said she's a lot of work and asked if she's worth it. She sort of dodged the question and tried & failed to turn it back on me: 'You tell me if you're worth it.' I really didn't care anymore. This chick has an awful personality and if I'd have to go on many dates before we get properly physical I can't be arsed. I tell her bluntly I don't have to justify myself and I really don't care if she thinks I'm worth it or not. I know I'm the shit and it's her who has to sell herself. She disagrees but I get her to tell me 'yes I'm worth it'. We go quiet and walk on a bit. I say it's getting late and I'm gonna go'. She's like 'yeah I thought you would.' (LOL) I asked if she needed directions and she says no (she didn't know the area - she wuz pissed!). Never stopped a date early before but god she was not worth my time. There's more to it but I've already written plenty. She was interested me in me because it was late and she had wanted to continue, + she was trying to bond via shitty questions about my interests and stuff. Sent her a text after telling her what I thought (wish I'd done it at the time rather than excusing myself and leaving... would have been soooooooo satisfying to see her face). Oh well

Author:	Clocks [ Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:55 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Direct game training
General update Didn't go day training today cos I couldn't be bothered. Should have done to be honest as I wanted to test my more direct/forward approach strategy In other news, I tried to set up a date with the muslim girl (gonna call her Z) and she was like yeah but didn't reply to me asking about Sunday. We've snapchatted and talked shit since then but not a lot and nothing interesting. I think she's just shit to talk long distance. She sent a snap showing her watching a cartoon today so it makes me think she's not doing anything else, and I know she had a great time on our date, so guessing she's just in lazy-girl mode: http://kennyspuathoughts.com/2014/05/08 ... y-with-it/ We snapchatted this morning but don't wanna be needy. I might not msg her till monday/tuesday then set up a date. I like her and I'm sure she likes me, it should be easier than this. Women...

Author:	Clocks [ Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:14 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Direct game training
Quick update... 1-to-1 with Johnny Stayed direct, and kept convos short in most cases. Got 10 numbers (2 of which I did on the way to meet JB at the tube station and 1 on way home at a tube station) and a couple of facebooks. Contacted every girl an about half got back to me and from that 1 date lol. Possibly 1 or 2 more dates on the table but that is just shit numbers. Had one woman who was on the phone to her mum, I gestured for her to take her earphones out and her mum told her to get my number. We chatted, she asked me twice to go to a fashion show with her but I was tired, don't like fashion and wanted to finish my session with JB. Weirdly enough she hasn't texted me back even though she was one of the most interested. Lessons learned? -Learn to solidify numbers, create a connection rather than just getting contact info Date Date with girl from 1-to-1. Very sweet and lovely girl, very attractive. We went to London Bridge, had a drink, got some food. We snogged throughout the night and I ended up being able to feel her bum but not much more. Thought it went well but texting afterwards suddenly gone dead. Lessons learned: -Learn how to get a goddamn second date, think my text game is fucking me up Gaming today with a guy in London. Nofap update Caved after about a week. Never really seem to get past a week but need to get this shit sorted. Not going out makes it worse because I'm at home bored (even more reason to go out and game). Today, sunday 6th July is my first nofap day.

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