Uboat and VP should lead a bootcamp on how to game sloppy seconds
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| Author: | EnsoNytes [ Sat May 31, 2014 1:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ascending to SnowSaiyan |
Uboat and VP should lead a bootcamp on how to game sloppy seconds
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| Author: | Snowsaiyan [ Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ascending to SnowSaiyan |
Quote: Uboat and VP should lead a bootcamp on how to game sloppy seconds
Hahaha! lmfao!
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| Author: | Snowsaiyan [ Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ascending to SnowSaiyan |
Friday 30th May Smiley, a harem member has been away in her home country of Lithuania for 10 days at a friends wedding. I told her to come to mine. She asked if we can meet in central. I was still fragile from the night before so 'fuck that' was what I was thinking. I didn't want to take her on 'a date'. I just wanted to release my man juice all over her. She finally agrees to come to mine. She's looking good. Nails all did. Hair all nice. We talk for about 20mins about her time back home. Then I make the moves. She says I'm a bad boy. I say I'm good...at being bad. There was token LMR, nothing to break down really. Just flowed. Banged her. Yep, she's a freak. I was really tired and didn't plan on going out, hence why I got her round. But she left at like 9 so I thought fuck it. I'll head out. I met JD, his friend CB I believe he calls him in his field reports and Oz. The pua clan don't want to pay anywhere to get in. I find this surprising as you would have to pay everywhere in central at this time. Any busy bar with hot chicks, you would have to pay. We head to a lame crappy pub. Fuck all game. Had like a 90% ratio of guys to girls. Literally made be physically ill. I feel this is going to have to change in the future as I want to be in venues with girls that look good, done up and where there is a good ratio. The pua clan bounce and suddenly I get a call from Rida. He's round the corner and has snagged a hen party. 4 tasty morsels. He's also with Jacamo. We bounce to a bar and head in. The door staff tell us its 10 of our english pounds to get in. Jacamo and Rida don't even flinch and hand over the moolah. Aaaahhh, all is right with the universe again. I opened a few sets, nothing really stuck. I head to the smoking area. My stomping ground. I open this Italian girl. Zelda was her nickname. As soon as I open I extract her from the group. After about 2mins of talking her staring up at me with the Anime eyes, I knew it was on. I use the Vitaly 3 questions. Fuck me, I can't get enough of it! I k close. She then says I should get her number. A worthy offering. But here's where is gets muddled. I'll explain later. She had two numbers. She gives me one. I bounce back to the hen party. They all have b/f's. Rida tells me one doesn't. I was sure she did. I go to isolate. Take her outside for a smoke. It turns out she does have a b/f. It's a bit awkward as Zelda is literally 3 feet away getting chirpsed up by some massive ganga man looking guy. I try and k close the girl from the hen party but she doesn't. So I think fuck this. I turn and shout for Zelda. I beckon her to come with a finger flick. She's one on one with the ganga man and says she can't. I smile and tell her to come. She excuses herself. The ganga man's gangsta friends come out. A small part of me thought something could kick off. But fuck it, I love game. I'd take a shank for that shit. Ha! Luckily nothing happened and the ganga man chode moved on. I just got a few evils. I introduce the girls. I tell the one from the hen party to leave. She was of no use to me now. I chill with Zelda. Eventually I go back in on my own. I get touchy feely with the bride to be. Very touchy feely. At this point there was just me, the bride to be and one of her friends. I run to find Rida and ask him to wing me. I'm gonna try and isolate the bride to be. He out of nowhere raises the ethical issue. He says that isn't cool and he's reluctant to do that. WTF!? Eventually we go back down but the moment has gone. I didn't manage to isolate. Fuck. N.B - I found out the next day that Rida k closed the main bridesmaid who was actually in a committed long term relationship with the fiancé's brother. Ha. Wtf!? And he's lecturing me on morales. Wasteman. Rida and I open a two set downstairs. I'm winging him. The HB6 I'm with doesn't want to do anything in front of the other women who was her manager. She however offers her number up to me. Gooood...Gooood. We see them again at the end of the night. I'm with mine. Isolate. Take her a few feet away. Rida is winging. She still won't k close. I look at Rida now and he is getting flirty with his. The tables have turned somewhat. I give him 20mins or so. Then my one intervenes. Rida had a go at me saying I didn't wing him properly. I managed to get 20mins for the fucker. How long does he want?! The place was shut and they were heading home. I think he is living in a fantasy if he thinks he could of got more. His one had a b/f for 9years. Lived with him and shit. Rida meekly goes for the pull. An after party back at mine. They decline. We head home. I go to text Zelda (very strong HB7) and the number doesn't work. She fucked it. I spent the next hour and half trying different permutations. Haha! To no avail.  . Zelda has left my reality and I'll never see her again. Takeaways: - I have been watching a fuck load of vids on youtube of RSDTodd. This guy knows what he's talking about. He mentions when you go for the number do it on the sly. So that's what I've been doing lately. - I have to make sure I text/ring the number right away. That simple error has cost me. - I spoke to Rida and we more or less agreed that central London is quite hard to pull as I live like 20mins away in a taxi. I say we should game in my South London area. He more or less agrees. |
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| Author: | Snowsaiyan [ Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ascending to SnowSaiyan |
Saturday 31st May I link up with Rida in central. We go to a birthday of a friend of his. I'm wearing the beige mac. The 'God jacket'. When I get there Rida is isolated with a HB7. She worked in fashion and claimed to be very successful. When they parted and I greeted Rida he told me that she said I was hot. The first person to say this about me he claims. Whatevs. The birthday party arrive. We have lame convo. Rida likes lame convo too fucking much. I just want to game. There were quite a few hot chicks at the table but I didn't have access to them and was stuck next to guys and some old lady.  . Eventually we get up and game. I open a couple of sets. I start to get into state. There was one girl there who I liked a lot. I thought she was smoking. She was asian. A solid HB8. She was the birthday girls sister. I opened her. I start spitting game. I can't escalate or anything as all of her family, cousins, aunties all that shit are around. Suddenly Rida comes in to the one on one convo I was having.  I think fuck it. He's the man at making me sound good. A great wing. I do the same for him. But after about a minute of the interaction I notice a disturbance in the force. This motherfucker isn't winging, he's trying to pull the robbery! God damn! I # close the asian HB8. Proper on the sly with all of the familia around. Eventually we go back to a one on one convo then out of no where her cousin or uncle or some shit literally grabs her hand and no word of a fucking lie, pulls the bitch away from me. Mid conversation! hahaha! That's whats up! I mention to Rida how he wasn't winging me then. We work in such perfect tandem as we have known each other for like 8 years now. And have opened many a set together in that time. Hundreds upon Hundreds. He states that was the one girl he was targeting and he told me that before the night. I forgot to be honest. My bad. We duck out from the party about 11:30pm and head to South London. I was reading one of Valleypua's (forum member) posts and he used the word 'hipster'. I'd never heard of this word. Its funny because a girl I was in set with said my area is a hipster area. I can see what she means. We head to a music pub which is hipster to the maximum. It's big, busy as fuck and right next to my house. Like a 5min walk away, if that. In the queue Rida opens these Italians chicks. All good. Pumping state. We head in. There is an awkward moment with Rida and some guy. You know, when you try and walk left and they go to their right. Then you try and walk right and then they walk left. A seated 2 set laugh and whisper amongst themselves. I open by asking them what they said. N.B - Rida claims he opened this set. He didn't. But I will keep up the pretence. lol. We lock into the set. The one I'm with is a strong HB8. Rida's is a HB9, easy. We spit some game. I go to # close mine. Half way through putting her number in she says she is taking a break from men yadayda. I literally take the phone of her and say if she wants to hang out then I can have her number. She doesn't have to give it to me. I make this clear. I put the phone away briefly. Then talk some more. I place it on the table. She picks it up and finishes putting her number in. That's right ho, you know you want this magic stick. I think this worked as I genuinely didn't want her number if she didn't want to hang out. I'm sick of fucking flakes! They head home as they live far, kinda. We open a few other sets. Rida was in isolation with one girl for like 30/40 mins. I was gaming in the vicinity. I came back. To see them just talking. I mouth to Rida to kino and k close. He doesn't. Man has to work on that seriously. He's chicken shit to make a move because he fears fucking up the interaction. RsdTodd explained in a video. Polarise people. He clearly wanted to k close but was afc about it. We open 2 norwegians. HB7. HB5. We talk some. Then leave. We game a little more. I see the 2 set again with some guy. I bowl in and tell them to come with me for the after party. I think women somewhat like this confidence as no girl has ever stayed with the chode when I've entered. We head back to mine. Even though it is literally a 5min walk, maybe less, we get a taxi. lol. We are in the taxi for no word of a lie about 45 seconds. I don't fuck about when it comes to the pull. If a girl wants food I make up some shit and say we have what ever they want at mine. I basically just have bread and crunchy nut clusters. If they want drink I say we have everything imaginable. We really have like a half drunken bottle of wine and a can each of Red Stripe. What ever it is, I say I have it. I look to pull as quickly as possible. Enso (forum member) wisely said something along the lines of every second spent procrastinating is an invitation for chaos. From my experience this is true. Thats why I never get food with them or go to get drinks from the shop. If I can get them home as quick as possible. I do. Anyways we get back to mine. And open our single can of Red Stripe. lol. After about 30/40mins. Rida's one wants to bounce. The girls leave. I'm not sure what went wrong here. There was no real trigger. Rida put it down to cultural differences. I don't know. So we duck out of mine and try to run some hail mary game. As soon as we leave my house I see a 2 set coming. I open. I remember one of them. I didn't mention this before as it wasn't really Field report worthy. But after work one day, I got off the bus and this hot chick did as well. She was a fashionista, strong HB8, with a tinge. lol. I was being a chode and simply walked next to her afraid to say anything. Then I thought fuck it and dived in. I opened. Convo didn't go anywhere though. My game was far from tight. We amicably parted ways. But anyways it was the same girl. We open them. Spit some game. Go for the pull. Her mate isn't down. Her mate says I should get her number. I do. We part ways. To be honest I don't think she wants to fuck me. I don't feel 'entitled' if that is the right word. I don't necessarily think she is above me or some shit, I just don't get the sense she was attracted to me. But we'll see how that plays out. We open a 4 set in the kebab shop. I go to number close. Don't get it. We head home. Takeaways: - I was happy with how the day went. Rida was upset he didn't f close. Personally I was happy with progression. It was the first time in a month I have successfully pulled back to mine. I think gaming in the local area is definitely a must. |
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| Author: | Snowsaiyan [ Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ascending to SnowSaiyan |
Quote: Quote: In the briefest way possible I would sum up game as the ability to successfully mate with the partner of your choice.
If you think that game is the ability to successfully mate with the partner of your choice, then how does the rest fall into the equation?It is different from the other part of the equation in my eyes from what I have seen. I have friends with similar dress sense, life style etc. but they lack game. Therefore do not have major success with girls. I'm sure people more eloquent that I from this forum could give a better example. In the words of Valleypua and Enso: Game is Game. I'm only asking you to think deeply about what it really takes to sleep with a girl. Value is your everything. Game is part of your SMV. Don't necessarily just think of it as what does it take to sleep with a girl, think what does it take for a women to sleep with you. What do you require from her? You are probably into a woman for her looks, personality, ambition, etc. There are plenty of ugly fat bitches who are 'fun'. Doesn't mean I want to bang them. And no doubt you and every other man on this planet feel the same. A vagabond came up to me the other day. Told me a joke. Then asked for money. It was funny, the joke. She made many humorous comments. Does that mean I want to bend her over and rattle her doggy style? Fuck no. I am curious, what do you think it takes to sleep with a women? |
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| Author: | Tr@veler [ Sun Jun 01, 2014 11:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ascending to SnowSaiyan |
Quote: Quote: Quote: In the briefest way possible I would sum up game as the ability to successfully mate with the partner of your choice.
If you think that game is the ability to successfully mate with the partner of your choice, then how does the rest fall into the equation?It is different from the other part of the equation in my eyes from what I have seen. I have friends with similar dress sense, life style etc. but they lack game. Therefore do not have major success with girls. I'm sure people more eloquent that I from this forum could give a better example. In the words of Valleypua and Enso: Game is Game. I'm only asking you to think deeply about what it really takes to sleep with a girl. Value is your everything. Game is part of your SMV. Don't necessarily just think of it as what does it take to sleep with a girl, think what does it take for a women to sleep with you. What do you require from her? You are probably into a woman for her looks, personality, ambition, etc. There are plenty of ugly fat bitches who are 'fun'. Doesn't mean I want to bang them. And no doubt you and every other man on this planet feel the same. A vagabond came up to me the other day. Told me a joke. Then asked for money. It was funny, the joke. She made many humorous comments. Does that mean I want to bend her over and rattle her doggy style? Fuck no. I am curious, what do you think it takes to sleep with a women? However, we are talking about you sleeping with women, and women sleeping with you. NOT anything further at this point. So, in order for us males to get horny, for us to get an erection, all we pretty much need is a pretty attractive, naked, female body. That's it. Most men look at an attractive girl in the club and think "damn" and they could fuck her if the two of them were alone. I am talking from a purely sexual standpoint, and for men, that point is PHYSICAL. Usually it's something like wide hips, long legs, tight ass, decently sized breasts, slim to curvy figure, symmetrical face, fair skin. A girl has that and she's "sex worthy", per se, as in, guys will want to fuck her. What attracts a girl to a guy? It is not physical attributes - for the most part. Yes physical attributes have their place. But they are not the first thing that makes a guy "sex worthy", or attractive. What does? Character and personality. Specifically it is "confidence". Ah how we hate that word. "I just want a guy who's confident". Confident in what? Confident in engaging her. In showing interest with no apologies. Not stating interest, showing it, by engaging with her, spending time with her, playing with her. This is the "personality" girls talk about, the "character" they talk about. You could be fat, ugly, but if you can make a girl laugh, are confident in what you say, don't care much about her reactions and just want to have a good time with her, hell do you have a chance of sleeping with her. You are now "sex worthy". Whilst you wouldn't date an unattractive girl with a great personality, a girl will date a physically unattractive guy with a great personality, confidence, charisma and a no apologies attitude. And as we have established, engagement with the girl is necessary. Don't think you need to "be" all these things, though. You already are all these things, and you were a handsome man the last time I saw you. You got all things on the checklist. So really all you need to do is engage with the girl, have a carefree attitude, and have fun with her over a long period of time (long meaning for several hours). In the words of RSD Alex - "You are enough." |
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| Author: | Snowsaiyan [ Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ascending to SnowSaiyan |
Tr@veller - I 100% agree that a women is not as appearance driven as a man. Mystery said we are all trying to survive and replicate. We offer more survival value and a women offers more replication value. I read this around 7/8 years ago:http://www.laddertheory.com/attractiondeconstruct.htm I largely agree with this rating system. I think we are somewhat of similar mindsets. I would find it surprising if any one on this forum could outwardly reject the views in the link. Perhaps percentages may change but I believe that everyone see's it more or less as that. |
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| Author: | Snowsaiyan [ Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ascending to SnowSaiyan |
Update - I am categorically unable to arrange a Day Two! Ok. So I have been gaming for about 6 weeks or so. In that time I have managed to get around 50 numbers. Mystery said he goes for the number around the 25 - 45min mark. The below shows the percentage of the 50 numbers and the time spent in set before I got it and had to leave the interaction. 10% - 5 mins or less (Day game/closing a waitress etc.) 30% - 15 mins 40% - 25 - 45 mins 20% - 45+ mins As I mentioned in an above post I am seeing little to no correlation between time in set and how solid a number is. I would say out of all of the numbers around 10-15% of girls are responding. With the rest its just radio silence. lol. I have been trying to improve my text game and I have learnt a few tips after spending hours researching. Most I already did, but there were a few other good tips I picked up. I have only been able to successfully arrange one day two. With Smiley, who is being inducted into the harem. And as I mentioned before I spent about 5 minutes with her the whole night! Not even in isolation. I knew nothing about her and she knew nothing about me. But she still met up with me. I know why these people aren't messaging me. Its lack of attraction/interest. Simply because they don't know me. I am 100% confident if I can get them just on one date, the tables will be turned. On another note, of those girls that are responding, only about half or less say they would like to hang out sometime. But they don't arrange dates etc. So just flakey bullshit. My time is precious guys, so I don't fuck around with girls that wont be able to make the harem. All the women I'm messaging are mostly HB8's. With a fair few HB9's. And some HB7's. So I am curious, how does this compare to everyone else? How many numbers are people pulling that are translating into Day two's?? |
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| Author: | Snowsaiyan [ Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ascending to SnowSaiyan |
Monday 2nd June I went to the music pub in my local area (South London) with a couple of my housemates. The two of them have heard of game. One has the book but hasn't read it. They are afc to the max. When we get there we chill in the outside area on a bench next to some ladies. To be honest I wasn't even thinking about gaming. I only really went out just to chill with them as it beats sitting in doors. Some random guy sat down next to us at our bench for like 5 mins. After a little while he chimes into our convo. He slowly worms his way in. There is a book club inside. Where authors..published might I add go through extracts of their book. I went in to get a drink and just stayed in there. It was the first time I'd been to something like that. Pretty sick tbh. One guy did a poem about Gandalf and what it would be like if he lived in the east London ghetto. Funny as fuck. There was one chick that caught my eye. Dressed all in black. Leather jacket. Blonde. HB10. I was dressed all in black, so we matched. Yay! I saw her all night but I was too chicken shit to approach. She was an author and was on stage earlier. By proxy two girls join our table. Overspill from the one next to it. The author girl is with that group and joins. I open. The other 2 are hooked and are in our circle of friends. I spit some game at the HB10 author. She wasn't having it. God damn it! Guys this music pub is sooooo sick. Trust me. Hipsters and shit. In one corner you'll hear conversations about the unstable political position in Ukraine and in the other you'll hear conversations about old school hip hop and shit. This place has 'me' written all over it. The random guy that got talking to us came out on his own. Balls of steel. Seeing him and spending time with him inspired me slightly. But I'm still too afraid. He knew of game, but was not learned of game. It was cool talking to him about game. He idolised a UK pua called Steve Jabba. Other than that and a few random comments to girls, there was no game to be had. The problems I'm having with arranging day two's is fucking with my state. I'm proficient in pick up (Meet to phone number) but I'm struggling to go further. RsdTodd had a video on youtube where he mentioned some helpful tips on how to get into state. The best one was treat each open as a learning opportunity. I like Rsd Todd. In terms of pua's, Mystery is my number one and RsdTodd is a close second. He mentioned in the video how he played soccer to a decent level, was a tournament chess player and was a professional poker player. He mentions he's very goal oriented. Which is like me. I played soccer. For my 8th birthday got a chess board. And chess is probably the only game I play on my iPhone. With my friends I also am the self proclaimed chess master. Saying that Oz (a wing of mine) out of no where said this randomly about me. That I'm always thinking ahead. 3 steps ahead might I add. He is a good judge of character this boy. Also RsdTodd is a poker player. I work in gambling. And gamble a lot. I also watched some Rsd Alex. I didn't like him. His natural game sounded like bullshit to me. I don't really like anyone other than Rsd Todd. I tolerate Tyler. That's about it. I actually can't even be bothered to approach anymore to an extent. This day two's sticking point is the cause. What the fuck is the point in opening, gaming, k close/# closing, if I can't take it any further?!!! I'll probably take some time off game. Head home and shit. Clear my head, come back fresh. Over and out. |
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| Author: | valleyplaya [ Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ascending to SnowSaiyan |
Quote: Update - I am categorically unable to arrange a Day Two!
This is a typical problem in PU, and I honestly don't think much can be done to really improve the numbers. I had over 475 girls' numbers (in my last phone, until it broke) that I've collected over the past eight months from mostly night game. Out of all those numbers, I have fucked 18 girls in the past eight months. I've probably day twoed a little over 30 and madeout with about 150. So the makeout rate is not bad--a little less than 33% while the day two and fuck rates are drastically lower. This is the biggest reason I currently advocate for extremely rapid approaches. I rarely spend more than two minutes in a set. I will admit that I haven't experimented with spending more time in sets recently, but, in the past, when I would spend maybe 20-30 minutes (if not entire nights) with girls, I would still end up with pretty much the same result: flakes. Both Roosh and Chris from Good-Looking Loser have said that, for about every 10 numbers you collect, you may hear back from three and maybe day two one. Of every 30 numbers you collect, you may be lucky if you bang one. I think this sounds almost ridiculous, but, from what I've witnessed in my own game and everyone else who games around me, it's pretty accurate. This is also one of the reasons I think taking each encounter as far as possible as quickly as possible is helpful. I think you stand the best chance at building up a rotation if you escalate quickly and build investment that way. One thing I have noticed--and this is weird to me--is that numbers seem to reply more often if you acknowledge the flake when you first meet the girl. Before you part from her, say something (in a funny, flirtatious manner) like, "You better not flake on me. If you do, I'm gonna throw my drink in your face the next time we run into each other." I'm still experimenting with different techniques myself. I hope we all can discover things that work for us to help solve this issue.
Ok. So I have been gaming for about 6 weeks or so. In that time I have managed to get around 50 numbers. Mystery said he goes for the number around the 25 - 45min mark. The below shows the percentage of the 50 numbers and the time spent in set before I got it and had to leave the interaction. 10% - 5 mins or less (Day game/closing a waitress etc.) 30% - 15 mins 40% - 25 - 45 mins 20% - 45+ mins As I mentioned in an above post I am seeing little to no correlation between time in set and how solid a number is. I would say out of all of the numbers around 10-15% of girls are responding. With the rest its just radio silence. lol. I have been trying to improve my text game and I have learnt a few tips after spending hours researching. Most I already did, but there were a few other good tips I picked up. I have only been able to successfully arrange one day two. With Smiley, who is being inducted into the harem. And as I mentioned before I spent about 5 minutes with her the whole night! Not even in isolation. I knew nothing about her and she knew nothing about me. But she still met up with me. I know why these people aren't messaging me. Its lack of attraction/interest. Simply because they don't know me. I am 100% confident if I can get them just on one date, the tables will be turned. On another note, of those girls that are responding, only about half or less say they would like to hang out sometime. But they don't arrange dates etc. So just flakey bullshit. My time is precious guys, so I don't fuck around with girls that wont be able to make the harem. All the women I'm messaging are mostly HB8's. With a fair few HB9's. And some HB7's. So I am curious, how does this compare to everyone else? How many numbers are people pulling that are translating into Day two's?? |
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| Author: | valleyplaya [ Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ascending to SnowSaiyan |
Quote: I actually can't even be bothered to approach anymore to an extent. This day two's sticking point is the cause. What the fuck is the point in opening, gaming, k close/# closing, if I can't take it any further?!!! I'll probably take some time off game. Head home and shit. Clear my head, come back fresh.
Sorry to hear about this, brah. I was certainly in the same position when I started game a year ago. It took me a breakup to realize the power of game and how it can make your life awesome as shit. From reading your FRs, it sounds like you have a decent amount of game tbh, more so than some other authors on the forum (all the authors of the FR threads I don't comment in) so I hope you continue to hit game hard. I think it's important to find your niche in game so as to maximize the amount of fun you get out of it. Like Enso, for instance, recently has been running a tad bit of day game. Or my wing Guru who swears by day game. They enjoy that setting and find it more natural for their personalities. Whereas my other wings Consistency and Smith, and I, love the nighttime. It comes down somewhat to preference and what you find fun/enjoy. I game not to purely rack up numbers but because I seriously find nothing as fun as gaming (the numbers are just a consequence of my enjoying the hell out of it). Game is truly my biggest hobby. I think it's best to experiment with different settings. If the numbers haven't been working the way you want them to in night game, try day. Try Tinder. Facebook. Social circle. Convo game. Strip club game. Grocery store game. Anything. Or get wasted as FUCK the next time you go out and make a complete ass out of yourself, but find fun in doing it. One thing that keeps me going, and that works for me, is my absolute desire to be the biggest manwhore I can be. It sounds weird, but I truly yearn to build that reputation up as much as I can. I just think it sounds cool, and the reputation itself doesn't hurt when picking up girls. Be the cocky asshole who gets away with saying whatever is on his mind because you just don't care about the girl or what she's going to say back to you. Be the swagged-out player who is known among his crew as the one who's not afraid to do anything. Make game as fun as you can and not only will it begin to become very enjoyable, but it will make your life so much better as well. Happy playing, my dude. |
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| Author: | Snowsaiyan [ Fri Jun 06, 2014 1:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ascending to SnowSaiyan |
Wednesday 4th June I have a wing that doesn't want to be named in the FR's. So from here on out he shall be known as the wing who must not be named. So I get a message from the wing who must not be named. I thought we were going speed dating. When I get there instead of a group of females, I rock up to a table of guys. Wtf!? I assumed they were other guys speed dating. I soon find out this is not the case. They are some other London pua's. hhhmmmmm I'm outside with the wing who shall not be named and a hot girl walks past. Strong HB7, maybe HB8. He points out her ass. It's off the chain! She's like 100m away and increasingly leaving my reality. I think fuck it! I run up to her. Spit some game. # close. She was in a rush and offered it to me. We duck out of that bar and head to another. It's raining. Really bad. I see a girl grabbing shelter. I run up to her. She's a dancer. Spit some game. #close. At the next bar I clock a HB10. I approach with some encouragement from one of the new wings. She's Swedish. Studies fashion, lives in sloane square. . Silver spoon and mouth come to mind. An interupt her sis comes back so I get up and leave. After 10mins, I think fuck it. I must push it, force it. I am destiny!Shes at some reserved table, theres another group of girls. I literally head in and sit down in the middle of the table. Fuck social norms. Spit some more game. # number. God Damn! When it comes to spitting game I have more bars than Soho. I clock a HB8 walk in. 3 set. She's at the bar. I walk behind her but her friend is in the way. I ask her friend to do me a favour. I ask if she can stand 'there' and point to a foot away. She's giving me anime eyes. Little ho doesn't know I only want her friend. I spit game. Hard. I go to #close the HB8. She gives the b/f objection. I then turn to the HB7 I asked to move. lol. She was having none of it. She refused to have her friends sloppy seconds. We head to another bar. The pua's tapped out that place hard. No more game to be had. Takeaways: - Was cool to meet some more people in pick up. With such a large 'pride' we need bigger venues to game. - Try and find out if a girl has b/f before I close. This will allow me to better identify targets. - Tr@veller said some words of advice the other day. The phrase 'you are enough'. It's taken me a while but slowly I am starting to believe it. |
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| Author: | Snowsaiyan [ Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ascending to SnowSaiyan |
Thursday 5th June I #closed a HB9 in day game a couple of weeks back. She was up for meeting. She lives really far. It's like over 1 and half hours for her to get to London. Most people would of arranged a date in central London where her train gets in. I was sure to get her to South London where I live. She agreed. Always, always arrange it near either yours or her house guys. Highly recommended. I see her a the tube station. I kiss her on the cheek and I'm touchy feely from the start. I think a lot of kino straight of the bat sets the right mood. She had the tightest body I think I have EVER felt! Seriously. No joke ting. We head to a bar near by. She was a bit older than me. From the stories she was telling I would guess 2-6years. She seemed shy to tell me, so I didn't push it. Her age is irrelevant to me. The only thing that concerns me is if she will let me play with her couchie. I planned the date early at like 6:30 because I knew she'd have to get a train home and trains stop at like 12 or so. But she arrived late like 8pm. She talked a lot. Which made my job easy. After about an hour or just over that I know I have to kiss close. She was talking. I stop her and say in London its rude not to give good eye contact. I show her good eye contact. As we are looking at each other I then head in. We kiss. Now I hadn't really gotten any 'vibes' from her. Her leg was touching my leg and she asked me a question about the most adventurous place I'd had sex. That was it in the whole hour and a half. I heard some advice, if your unsure just proceed like its on. I'm glad I did. I then go for the pull as its getting late. So much later than I wanted. I tell her we are going to get coffee. She is reluctant but is willing to come. But she didn't have money on her oyster. I live like 15mins (walking) away from the pub we were at. In the end it doesn't happen. I could understand how she felt. She did have missions to go to get back home. I walk her back to the tube station. I asked to see her tongue piercing. She sticks out her tongue. I then say I want to taste it. lol. A sloppy ass kiss proceeds. It tasted metallic...just if your curious.  I head home, no more game to be had. Takeaways: - I knew beforehand the pub was far from my house. I planned a drink in that pub, then bouncing her to an intermediate pub half way. Then from that pub I live like a 5min walk. But as it got sooooo late, I knew I had to go for the pull then and there and deviate from the original plan. Next time I may head straight to the intermediate pub. - I will also buy another oyster card, a spare. With enough money on it to get to and from my house. |
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| Author: | Snowsaiyan [ Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ascending to SnowSaiyan |
Friday 6th June I link up with Rida in central London. We head to one of our go to bars. Rida is a little afraid of the approach. Me, less so. The approach is becoming meaningless to me now. To put it simply, you won't remember that girl a few days from now, or a week, or a year from now. If she blows you out, who fucking cares!? And if she doesn't she'll probably just flake anyway. Thats the attitude I have now. As soon as I get in there I open a 2 set. I'm overly touchy feely from the start. After about 15mins her friend said I was too touchy feely. lol. Maybe that ho was just jealous. Anyways we bounce. Both had b/f's. I open another set and go to # close. Again, b/f objection. We...I opened some more sets. The fish just were not biting. In the whole club there was probably only two girls I actually wanted. One was a strong HB9. She passed with a friend. I open. I go to # close as we are about to leave. She says she'll add me on Facebook if I give her my name. Running through my mind was like fuck you are gonna add me. Anyways I bounce after giving it to her. N.B - She did add me on Facebook. No doubt she'll flake though. There was another girl, probably a HB10. She was in a party group. It was hard to get to her. 5/6 of them head out to smoke. I head out. Open. She's with her b/f that night. I didn't try and # close or anything and left. Her friend cockblocked me saying I had said the same line to another girl outside. That was true. lol. Just before we leave I see the 2 set we originally opened. She had a b/f. I go up to her. I think I went for 3 kisses. Got 'an extended' kiss on the lips but no tongue. We duck out. We head to another bar. It was dead as fuck. like 4 girls in the whole place. I see a cougar (HB7) downstairs who says she's leaving. I stop her, hug her and spit game. I go for the k close, she isn't having it. I tell her to stick out her tongue, she does. I say I want to play with it. I lick her tongue with mine then k close. She leaves the club. I see an absolute stunner walk in HB9. Brunette. Beautiful. I walk straight up to her, open. We talk a bit. I go to # close she declines and says I should see her again if I want it. Errr...ok. I leave. I open a 2 set. # close. They were african. White african. From Zimbabwe or some shit. I remember she was reluctant to give it to me. I said something along the lines of ok, well I don't have much time and a lot of women in my life but I am always looking for special girls that can make the cut and if you don't want me to have your number that is fine, but you would be the one missing out. Strangely after this she willing and like excitedly gave it to me. Strange. I see the HB9 brunette outside with a male friend. She was only out with males btw. We chat. She heads in and I stay with the guy. He tells me that they are part of the elite special forces. He seemed to have a lot of knowledge that seemed legit so I doubt he was telling porkies. We head in. I then see them again outside. It looks like he's trying to get close to her. Not on my watch. I rush out to interrupt. I basically isolate her. I can't remember how, but I kiss close. She was aggressive as fuck in the make out. I liked it. I bounce from her. I game inside. I latch on to one girl. She has a b/f. I isolate. And k close. God damn! Since I have been gaming these last couple of months I have actually been shocked at how unfaithful girls are to their b/f's. Honestly. It's nuts! I head back out to the HB9. I go to make out. She isn't on it though. I tell her to stick out her tongue. She had her tongue pierced. I say I want to taste it. Make out again. I go for the pull. I say I want to take her home. She gives me like a soft no. I should of been more forceful and just pulled her by the hand. She heads in, I don't see her again. We leave and are running some hail mary game. We get in a taxi with two chicks. We head back to south London. The girls flake. Can't say I 'm surprised or bothered. They weren't hot. Takeaways: - Be more aggressive in the pull. I need to be the Ted Bundy of game! |
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| Author: | Snowsaiyan [ Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ascending to SnowSaiyan |
Thursday 12th June I've had just under a week off game. Lord knows I've thought of it. Lord know's it consumes my every thought. But I hadn't sarged in a while. I hook up with my pua clan Uboat, Livesimply, JD and of course {queue benevolent voice} the wing who must not be named. I feel a bit of approach anxiety. I open a girl that I knew through a friend (Rida). She's with her b/f. We chit chat. Nothing more. I head downstairs. Livesimply opens a set. I approach a friend of theirs at the bar. We speak. She has a b/f. She seems keen on the conversation. Aaaahhh, I let out a sigh of relief. It wasn't that hard. Once you open one set (and it goes well) you really do get the buzz. You get into state quick as fuck. I hit a few more approaches. There was one girl, a solid HB8 with a quirky dress sense. I don't know what it is but I find a well dressed girl just soooooo much more attractive. She was definitively hipster and lived in a place in London renowned for homing all of the artsy crowd. Its funny now though, when I go out, there is only really two or three girls in a whole venue I actually want. She was one of them. I opened. She was on her way to the toilet. I let her go. She comes back, lol, I mean past. And I grab her again. She is in a 2 set. I palm her AB mate of with my wing. She has the anime eyes, so things are going good. One thing I am and have been doing is showing intent. RsdTodd said this. And that's what I did. It was reveled she had a b/f. I cut the convo shortly after I found out. This set showed me the power of showing intent. We head to one of our go to bars. The wing who must not be named opened a two set. I dive straight in. The one I had looked cute. Definitely a HB7 but then she opened her mouth. Bitch looked like Mr. Ed. This brought her down to a HB6. I pretend that I am psychic. She's skeptical. I say I'll prove it. I tap her friend and tell her I know her favorite fruit. I confidently say its a pear. She loves it. I am right. I look at my HB6 and say when I look at you I see a pub. I name a pub, well a chain. I say she must like to go there a lot. She says she hates that pub but she used to work there for years. God damn, I'm on a roll. She's still skeptical though. I say ok, pick a number between one and ten. I look longingly into her eyes. I guess 7. Her number was 7. She wanted more parlour tricks but I refused. Mainly as I would probably of fucked up any other guesses. I show intent early as well. I say something along the lines of 'I'm enjoying this, the banter, but don't get any idea's, I'm not that easy'. We stay with them about 20/30mins. I know its time to escalate physically. I take her hand and get her to follow me. I take her round the corner and get touchy feely. I pull the Vitaly 3 questions. She says she only finds me 'kind of' attractive. I think she was 'kind of' fibbing. But whatever. She doesn't kiss me. Or number close. I cut the bullshit and the game now and genuinely just ask for feedback. She gives it to me. She said I was very charismatic. Which I liked. But she said I should of been more straight with her. It was good to get feedback. I open a 2 set sitting down. I join them. Opposite both of them. We spoke for a while, like 20/30 mins. There was an oriental HB8 and a solid blonde HB9. She was dressed all in black. Sadly I wasn't. Well I had blue jeans on. Black T and converse. But not in my preferred all black. It gets late and I say I have to leave. I wasn't sure which one to close. I contemplated getting both numbers but didn't. I went for the HB9. She declined. I felt sad. Perhaps if I had been in all black, things would have been different. lol. Bitch fucked my state. I should of asked for feedback as well. They both were loving it. Perhaps I didn't show intent clearly. Intent helps avoid sets like this. There's no point talking this long with them if they have no romantic intentions. Takeaways: - I'm trying to enjoy game more. Get less hooked up on the outcome. But a big part of me only gets happy if I'm getting the adulation of a hot girl or closing. Essentially that is winning. I find I really only enjoy game when I'm winning in that sense. But I will try and disassociate myself from the end result. The outcome and just enjoy the interaction more. We'll see how that goes. - With girls I will never see again it could be a good idea to get feedback from them. - The wing who must not be named, is a good wing. I enjoy being in set with him. We work in tandem. It reminds me a lot of when I'm in set with Rida. Not to that level but I have no doubt over the coming months we could get that. We are even finessing the nuances of how we like to wing. This could be a good partnership playa's. Watch this space. |
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