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Author:  Duece [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:49 am ]
Post subject:  What the f is going on?
Hello community,

I'm still new to this and trying to figure it out but I got my first in field experience :shock: .

So Friday I invited a girl over to my place we hung out, watched a movie (although we just talked). During that time I got some IOI's like staring at me or my lips or squeezing my hand etc.
But I couldn't bring myself to kiss her. I was thinking "what if she says no and awkwardness consumes the room".

Then we waited for her bus to arrive and I rested with my head on her thighs, but when I wanted to get up she wanted me to rest longer (seems like an IOI to me). Then her bus came and I still couldn't do it so I just pointed at my cheek so she could give me a kiss and said goodnight.

Now I'm trying say nothing to her because she texted a few cold responses and let her work (if not I still got some experience :P)

I'm here for advice pua community, what could I do better in the future and what did I do wrong?

Regards :)
Author:  Hunter_Foxe [ Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:14 pm ]
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Go in for the kiss. Forget about IOI's they're unreliable and in your case they are completely useless if you don't dare make a move even when the opportunity presents itself.

Get used to rejection and be comfortable with it or you'll never get laid. Imagine if a girl you liked as a person but didn't find attractive tried to kiss you. You would just avoid the kiss but you wouldn't think badly of her. Rejection is very rarely a smack in the face or a humiliation. It's normally a girl politely declining, which is nothing.
Author:  Duece [ Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:51 am ]
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Go in for the kiss. Forget about IOI's they're unreliable and in your case they are completely useless if you don't dare make a move even when the opportunity presents itself.

Get used to rejection and be comfortable with it or you'll never get laid. Imagine if a girl you liked as a person but didn't find attractive tried to kiss you. You would just avoid the kiss but you wouldn't think badly of her. Rejection is very rarely a smack in the face or a humiliation. It's normally a girl politely declining, which is nothing.
Sorry for the late reply I just got home from my holiday and after reading 2 books my game improved so I found out that I wasn't building enough comfort :D. It worked. Thanks for your reply!
Author:  alan fall [ Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:15 pm ]
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What you did wrong is that you think about it too much, you're afraid of rejection and that's a very bad thing.
Don't ever give a fuck if she rejects you, she is the one who lose anyway. You're the treat.

You should just kiss her when you were still in your house. Next time Just get close to her-find a good reason without showing your intentions- and go for the kiss!

I usually when i'm close to them i build some tension and when the time is right i just grab their head and kiss them, but becareful with that cause if you don't know how and when, you're really gonna look like a creep. You can even ask her if you want, that's really cool and honest.
Author:  Hunter_Foxe [ Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:57 am ]
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^^ Don't listen to the bad advice above. NEVER ask a girl permission to kiss her.
Author:  alan fall [ Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:58 am ]
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Said the drunk pirate.
Author:  Duece [ Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:01 am ]
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Thanks for the replies guys. Lol I think he meant like "would you like to kiss me?" Sort of question right?
Author:  alan fall [ Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:08 am ]
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Exactly..Again, you should know when to ask and when to act, timing is crucial, you can't just ask her out of the blue. If you're more experienced you should do what i suggested first and just grab her -that's what i do-.
Author:  Hunter_Foxe [ Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:28 pm ]
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There's never a situation when you would need to let the girl take the lead. If asking a girl has worked in the past, it would've worked anyway, without needing to ask.

And for the record, drunk pirates get laid by hot wenches regularly. They shiver me timbers!
Author:  alan fall [ Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:40 pm ]
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I wouldn't reply BUT..I thing that's a very important shit.. You're not giving her the lead, you're giving her the illusion of lead to make her comfortable, there's a huge different between the two. If she's negative, snap! Punish her..
Author:  Duece [ Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:07 pm ]
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Ahh alright thanks guys. And how could I punish her neg her or freeze her out?
Author:  .Sage. [ Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:14 pm ]
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And for the record, drunk pirates get laid by hot wenches regularly. They shiver me timbers!
I lol'd.

Let me add this. Girl coming over to your house for a movie, she will expect you're going to make a move. It's you, her, and a couch. It's not rocket science and girls are not oblivious to the way things work. The 'movie'? Just a cover up so that the two of you can get together while she pleases her Madonna syndrome.
Author:  .Sage. [ Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:18 pm ]
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Ahh alright thanks guys. And how could I punish her neg her or freeze her out?
Punish her? For what? Being too scary for you to make a move on?

You reward when she does something you like (Coming over to your place for a movie) and Punish her for doing things you don't like (Flaking, resistance, etc.)

There's nothing to punish her for, It seems as if she wanted you but she didn't get rewarded for it.
Author:  Duece [ Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:23 pm ]
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Ahh alright thanks guys. And how could I punish her neg her or freeze her out?
Punish her? For what? Being too scary for you to make a move on?

You reward when she does something you like (Coming over to your place for a movie) and Punish her for doing things you don't like (Flaking, resistance, etc.)

There's nothing to punish her for, It seems as if she wanted you but she didn't get rewarded for it.
Yes I know I fucked up that day but I got better while I was gone. And I meant if she was negative. I let her go anyway because she was way too cold after but hey I don't blame her lmao.
Author:  Hunter_Foxe [ Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:27 pm ]
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You don't build comfort or rapport by asking her permission to kiss her. It just makes you look awkward as fuck and destroys any spontaneous passion and tension you may have built up to that point. Any successes you may have had with this beta mode method will have been in spite of this error, not because of it.

Asking permission puts you into beta mode, elevates the woman onto a pedestal when she hasn't earned it and will turn her off you sexually. The purpose of pickup is to get laid and have the option to date who you want, not make friends with girls. You get the girl by making her horny, not by asking permission. The alpha male does what he wants, says what he wants and take what he wants. Women get wet thinking about guys like this, by asking her this question, you are instantly giving her the message "I am not a leader, I am not alpha, I don't dare make a move until I'm sure I won't be rejected" and her vagina will be dryer than the Sahara desert.
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