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| Author: | TimberWolf [ Thu May 23, 2013 7:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | The journey starts now! |
Alright well some of you guys might have read my introduction in the relevant sub-forum. That was Tuesday and since then a few interesting things have happened. Firstly let me say that I am not new to the ideology that is preached, but that I am an AFC when it comes to applying it. I have intense AA and am working on breaking through the barriers I'm experiencing at the moment. I will use this thread to track my progress, so in a sense it is mostly for myself. However I would really like feedback and advice, and I really want to pick the collective conscious of the community. I psyched myself up today to at least approach one girl when I went to Uni for a lecture. Got all dressed up, nice cologne, and must say I felt good. So I seat myself in the lecture hall which is rather big, but it's quite empty for some reason today. Two rows in front of me an HB9 sits down. I get her attention and ask her about the coming exams, and the conversation picks up from there. I'm feeling really anxious, but the communication is reciprocal and she asks me about myself, what I am studying etc. The conversation goes for about 3-5mins with her having to sit sideways in order to talk to me behind her. Without saying anything I pick up my bag and jersey and go sit next to her- "before you get a stiff neck". So we talk about what we do and where we're from and it's mostly friendly banter. In my head I've got David DeAngelo going, phrases and ideas from the forum flash through my mind. But I just try and keep up with her and not to say anything stupid. At a stage I ask her "so what do you do, when you're not studying law?"- HB: "What do you mean, like...?" Me: "Well socially, what keeps you busy" HB: "Well I dance" blablabla Me: "Are you any good?" HB: "Well yeah, bla bla bla" Me: "So if I asked you to dance, you'd probably humiliate me?" (Obviously meant as joke, but was this displaying low value in myself?) She then turned it on me and asked me what I do and the first fucking thing that pops into my head is "WELL I PLAY DOTA 2". Fuck me, luckily it remained in my head. But I couldn't think of anything to say. "I like the outdoors, rock climbing, hiking" (which is true, but I fucked up here). The lecturer never pitched so she says "well this was a waste of time", and I reply, "well not really, at least I met you". We walk together for a while and talk about stuff I can't even recall. At the end I ask her, her name. It was quite a distance we would've walked together and I'm thinking to myself, "fuck I aint got shit to say, I need to get out of here ASAP before I fuck up", and I say "well my friends are waiting for me so we'll catch up later", she says "it was really nice to meet you, see you later". I wanted to number close but I choked! That last line of having to catch up with friends came out very unconvincing, I must've sounded like I just wanted out. What I've learnt: * I need to define myself internally, solidify the person I want to convey, otherwise I'd end up telling girls I play Dota 2 and stay in on Saturday evenings to masturbate (not really but you get the point). Inner game I guess. *Using situational props as openers = easy way in. *Need to learn some lines for certain questions/responses that are contradictory to what is expected. *Whatever I said today, I think I need to say the opposite, i.o.w, not spew out what every other AFC talks about. I need to make the conversation interesting, try and build rapport and attraction. *I can do this. When I say she was an HB9 I'm serious. I think what helped me was my looks (not being arrogant). Questions: 1: How do I go about talking to her the next time I see her? Should I use this as an experience to learn from and move on, or should i reengage and go for a number? What I am fearing is that the next time she'll be with her friends, and I don't think I'd be able to engage with more than one. 2: Was that line "at least I met you" lame? I think she just laughed and didn't say anything. (I might be over analyzing shit but that's just how I am. I need to know where I go wrong so I can change it). If you read this post thanks, and if you're replying thanks a lot. I know it's boring but like I said, I need to post this stuff so I can get feedback and also reflect on my engagements. |
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| Author: | TimberWolf [ Sun May 26, 2013 7:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The journey starts now! |
Just to keep this thread alive. Not much has happened since my encounter with EnglishGirl (the hb9 in my English class) which was on Thursday. I had gone to University on Friday with the hope that another girl, which I've been eyeing for a long time now, will be there. However once again no lecturer showed up so there was no class, and she also didn't show. Now this girl looks really sweet. She wears glasses and has curly brown hair. She looks like the intellectual type (I've seen those sticky note things in her books) and I just get this good vibe from her. For a while this thing turned into a oneitis but I've changed my perception on the whole thing. I just want to meet her and take it from there. Any case, Friday and Saturday I felt like snake shit on a hot rock. I have depression and anxiety, which I manage, but sometimes I fall into this vicious cycle of letting my emotions get out of hand and leading me further down into despair. I poured myself a nice warm bath last night (Saturday) and had a good long talk with myself, lol, after which I felt a lot better. The thing that is lacking in my life at the moment is routine and short (small) goals. I realized that my only goal at the moment is to graduate at the end of the year. That's not enough! I need weekly goals. I need to enforce my life with more structure through a stricter routine. I realized I spend countless hours sitting at home during the week. I don't have that many classes, and I don't work, so I'll go to a lecture and come home and sit here, then go back later if I have another lecture. So I have decided to stay at University longer. Work in the library and eat in the cafeteria if I can afford it. Luckily I'm strict when it comes to gym, which I do 5 times per week, so this does lend some structure to my life. But overall everything needs to improve. One thing I learnt doing the 12-steps was that small achievable goals are what contribute to self-esteem. Thus, in conclusion, I want to focus on inner game for a while. I'm going to continue approaching girls and and playing the field, but my focus will be on self-improvement. You guys will kick me in the nuts if I tell you this, but I have psychology as a major and I don't go to the classes (purely because the lecturer basically reads us the textbook). BUT, and now this is a big but, the female to male ration in class is probably 80% girls and the rest guys. Fuck. I need to attend these lectures. But with so many girls, where do I fall in? Do I introduce myself to those that give IOIs and sit next to them. There are so many, where do I start?? In any case I'm looking forward tot he upcoming week and will do my best to keep this thread alive and updated. (If anyone can help me with what to do in my Psych class I'd appreciate it! If I don't have a plan then I'll end up sitting at the back on my own, like usual, and I don't want to!). |
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| Author: | TimberWolf [ Thu May 30, 2013 7:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The journey starts now! |
Alright let's get to this, whoever reads this and to my future self. This week had been one of so much frustration. I think it's that place one goes to when there's a clash between your old self, and the person you are trying to become. I've been listening to David D audio tapes everyday and internalizing a lot of stuff. I've been working on inner game and one thing that definitely has improved is the way I carry myself. I'm a fairly muscular guy but in the past I used to look at the ground when walking with shoulders slouched. My interpersonal interaction has never really been a problem though, I'm good with eye contact and maintaining confident posture etc. At University I've been carrying myself with a lot more confidence and IoI's are coming in, but I still struggle to approach girls. In any case, with what I mentioned earlier, I wanted to give up this week. I just felt so fucking drained because of the energy I've been putting into improving myself. Pretty much nothing happened from Monday till Thursday. Thursday I wanted to approach the other girl (not hb9) in my English class, but it's such a big class that at the end of the lecture people just disappear into the masses. In any case, today was the day. I arrived at class a bit early, and eventually she arrives (let's call her 'Glasses') and she sits way up in the front. Fuck me... so I'm sitting there thinking to myself, "either you fucking do this now, or it's done and it's not gonna happen". Today was the last day of lectures till after July (exams) so I literally was either today or sitting for another 2 months like a fucking AFC obsessing about my inaction I thought initially I would approach her after class. But this plan had been a failure on a few occasions. I sat there like and AFC for 10 minutes choking on my own anxiety. Eventually I decided fuck it, packed up my stuff and go sit next to her and introduce myself. Long story short, got a number close and a big ego boost. So that's been my week so far. One number close. Will update after day 2 or if anything else important happens. If anyone could give some advice please. This girl is the intellectual type. She's fucking smart thought I doubt street smart. Also she has, as it would seem, a bit of a low self-esteem or I am misinterpreting pure shyness. What I struggle to do is be the Alpha with a girl like this. She's rather quiet and a bit awkward, which in a sense pulls me down to normal afc behaviour (I guess in a sense because I know it's not necessary to be too much of an alpha. Anyone have experience with these types of girls, or know what I'm talking about? Just some advise for day 2 would be awesome. |
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