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| Author: | Matthew_Shaw [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RSD HOTSEAT 2 REVIEW LONDON WITH JULIEN |
Hey Guys..!! Thought I'd post an RSD Hotseat 2 review for all those thinking about taking it. In simple words...if you can take it...take it...!! I've done a lot of "pick up" events before (like a bootcamp,RSD bootcamp, Charisma arts bootcamp, aswell as a host of others) and I can truly say that this was one of my most useful ones....ESPECIALLY FOR THE PRICE..!! $300 IS A FUCKING BARGAIN.. So a little bit about me....all of the guys at the event will know me instantly...i 26, sri lankan, in a wheelchair (yepp...you read that right), and been in game for about 2-3 years (read the game in 2009 and started going out regularly in 2010). I started off doing daygame only for one year (which gave me mixed but inconsistant results), to then doing bargame (for about 6-7 months now).My results so far have been around 20-30 makeouts, fingering, and sucking on a girls tits in brighton beach (which i think was my proudest moment...(wiping tears off eyes))...however...i have yet to take a girl back from or sleep with a girl from bargame. Im saying all this to let everyone know what someone in a very unique position like me came into hotseat from. Ever since I got into game I fell in love with it. I realised that pick up was where I truly belonged because I loved women and just being in their presence. However until i got into the community my results were pretty much non-existant. Lets put it this way, I'd never kissed a girl (let alone anything else)until I got into game. So I value game very highly in my life. I envision a very big part of my life being dedicated to game in the forseeable distant future like it has been in the last few years. Ive isolated friends, isolated family, because of game, and although i regret some of it, i dont ever regret being in game. One of my main aims is to get good at game, and then show the world (especially people with disabilities), that it don't mean shit when getting girls (There are some things I have to do differently, like bringing up the topic of the chair and talking about it, bringing up the topic of sex first because she sure as well wont, and there ARE some girls who wont sleep with me just because im in a wheelchair, just like there are some girls who just wont go home with a black/short/chinese/hairy guy...while there are some girls ( i shit you not), who are interested in you JUST because of the chair...i guess because your different and intruiging). I guess what Im trying to say is that in the end all of it doesnt really matter...you can get results if you just go out there and push yourself. Infact most of the times Ive totally fucked up the chance of getting laid, its always been because of a fuck up in my game (ie.girl talks to me and enjoys my company, we make out, the prospect of taking her home comes into play and then i get too needy and start approval seeking because i want it too badly and havent had any reference experiences of doing it from a cold approach...and many more other similar situation). In the end I want to show the world that if you really really want more women in your life and willing to do whatever it takes to get that...then you sure as hell can..!! Dont get me wrong, my journey so far hasnt been all flowers and roses, i cant tell you about the countless nights ive had driving home crying my eyes out...or even the nights ive had watching my friends do better than me and feeling that shitty, jealous, "look at him and look at you feeling"ive had swirling around in my body. But overall the journey so far, the journey of self transformation,has been totally worth it..!! So anyway onto Hotseat. Damn, that was a long introduction but i think it was worth me saying... I wrote like 20-30 pages of notes and was scribbling away frantically thoughout the two days, and here what sticks to my head the most... - a lot of the times tyler hardly says anything...he just sits there and says...."uhh huh....(she talks)...alright....(she talks)....oh your fashion student....(she talks)"...which shows you dont need to be so entertainly...unlessyou want to - when tyler talks, he talks about th most random things....but things HE IS ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN....like when he starts randomly talking about reacting, frames, and neediness to a girl he is talking to randomly and out of the blue. -tyler is extremely centred when he talks...he usually just stands there as a centre of gravity and the girl gets sucked into him (well actually...he usually grabs her and pulls her in) - which leads me onto my next point....BEING PHYSICAL...!!...both tyler and julien do that A LOT...with almost 8/10 sets thet approach...holding hands...the claw...pulling girls closer to them anyway they can..holding girls' hips...going in for the make out when the topic is not at all anything romantic...so where are you from...?? (pulls her in for a makout)...or juliens favourite...not a shitty american makeout...i want a proper makout.... - the importance of self amusement and doing things for the sake of doing it BECAUSE YOU THINK ITS FUN...and no other reason than that...which will probably result in a lot of girls thinking your drunk when your not...as what happened to tyler and julien when both dont drink...but deep down they love it....because its illogical and fun and nothing like what you normally get from guys in a club...remember....your doing it for your self for your own amusement...your doing it because you have fun doing it...and if your having fun...you'll feel good...then she'll feel good because she feels what your feeling... - again i'll repeat..doing things for your own amusement to pump up your own state which she will then feel herself... - coming from the buying frame rather than selling frame....im not here to sell myself to you...but to buy something...read julien's post on this to clarify further. Overall, i would say that this is more of a belief cultivated over time rather than something you "DO" suddenly when talking to a girl. I doubt your gonna pull a girl if your talking to her...and then say to yourself "be a buyer not a seller" and then shes totally into you...in my opinion whether your the buyer or the seller is determined as soon as you wake up in the morning and walk out that door, way before you even talk to the girl. Thats just my opinion however, not set in stone, i could be wrong. - push/pull....ok this is a tricky one.I noticed Julien does this a LOT, LOT, LOT,but tyler not so much at all.Juliens typical lines....i love you, no wait i hate you....go away from me you filthy whore....I'm just kidding I like you. Julien sometimes insults girls to a point where they are genuinely offended...but...he then apologises and brings her back on his side...all the while taking her on a full emotional rollercoaster. Now the point i want to make here is...i think its more a part of julien personality...rather than something you have to do to get laid, because tyler in all honesty (although he does tease/banter a lot and gives shit back to the girl if she gives him shit)...didnt do much of this at all. My advice to everyone however is.....EXPERIMENT WITH IT...go out and be a total douche (while apologising after she is genuinely offended) for a week or two and slowly ingrain a new part into yourself. ..ill talk about this more at the end.. - This leads me onto another point....CALIBRATE AFTERWARDS AND NOT BEFORE...ITS EASIER TO APOLOGISE AFTERWARDS THAN ASK FOR PERMISSION BEFORE...this was a big one for me...you can get away with soooo much shit as long as you playfully apologise afterwards...but if your asking for permission before your sure as hell won't get shit....for those who werent at hotseat...imagine a guy asking a girl..."hey will you kiss me..." and waiting for the response...and then another guy saying....."hey will you kiss me"....pulling her in to kiss her before she says anything...then she says.."omg i cant believe you did that"...to which he responds with..."im so sorry...that wasnt me...that was my lips...here lemme give you a kiss to say sorry"....then he goes to make out with her again... - NOT BEING ATTACHED TO THE OUTCOME...i cant really say much here...except that i think this is again similar to the buyer/seller dynamic...it is cultivated slowly over time....the more you go out, the more reference experiences you get the more you become outcome detached..im certainly a lot more outcome detached now than i was say a year ago or even 3 months ago...but im still certainly not a zen buddhist monk... - NOT FILTERING ANYTHING...again, this is big, say what you want to say without feeling like you need to say more/less things to her to get her to like/want you... your doing it for you, because you want to... - ACTING OUT OF YOUR OWN INTENT....if you want to pull her in pull her in, if you want to make out with her go for the makeout, if you want to just relax and talk, relax and talk...doing things as and when you want to do them rather than doing things because you think its right and will "get you the right result/her to like you" - DOMINANCE...this again is quite trickly to explain in words but something you get a feel for once you've done it a while...examples include....whats your name, tell me your name. Me, you, outside now, come on. I wanna call my friend...no, no, we're going outside now...come with me now or lose me forever. Then physical dominace, as talked about before...grabbing and holding hands, pulling her in, pulling her face into your own face... - lastly...out of all the concepts i can think about on the top of my head...TAKING ONE CONCEPT AT A TIME AND WORKING ON IT (even if you dont think that it is quite "you")...ie... work on dominance for a while until you get that sorted and then maybe take a week or two or three to work on finding your own humour and just bantering and teasing for a while.... you might think that a particular concept is not "quite you"...for example i certainly dont think that a guy who teases/banters a lot is me at all...however...i think its really important that i explore that part of me,, because having that extra skillset in my arsenal can be extremely usefull...also...saying it isn't "you" means nothing anyway...because "you" are just a compilation of your experiences upto a moment in time anyway...so if you havent tried something...how can you know anything about it...for those who havent yet...read a book called Prometeus Rising by Robert Anton Wilson...he explains this concept really well... - Very lastly, i wanted to add something which wasn;t really talked about in the seminar...and that was about having a life where you feel like you have value. What i mean by this is that you are doing things (especially outside of pickup i feel) where you feel like you are giving and getting value in some way. For example when I am doing stand up comedy gigs (check me out here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaUc50kboSM ), or poetry jams, or just going swimming/running and keeping fit in my spare time....ie..i feel as though i am giving myself SOME sort of value BEFORE i even go in to talk to the girl or enter the venue...and my results are a lot lot better. I think the problem with someone who does nothing but going out 24/7 will have is that his whole sense of value will come from the girl and the responses she gives him...and so he will become very approval seeking/outcome dependant...however....paradoxically aswell i guess...i think if a guy goes out nothing but 24/7 gaming and starts getting results even if really flukilly (im sure that word doesnt exist...)...he then get less attached to it from the fact that he has reference experiences from it now...so i guess it could work that way aswell... although in my humble opinion...you are likely to progress much faster...again ironically enough...if say you do something in the daytime that gives value to you...like maybe even volunteering somewhere to help people...and then game at night...you can still game 5-6 nights a week and i would totally still recommend that.. So that's all guys. Like i said i have a fuck load of notes I have yet to write up. If anyone wants the notes, PM me and I'll send them to you, regardless of whether you went to Hotseat 2 or not (as long as RSD approve). HOWEVER, and trust me when i say this, my notes will in no way, shape, or form, substitute the experience you will get from ACTUALLY GOING TO HOTSEAT AND EXPERIENCING IT ALL...trust me. the two are completely and totally different and i would a million % recommended anyone seriously interested in improving their game to go to hotseat...ask yourself two questions... 1) do i have the money (borrow if you have to...) 2) do i want to improve my game. If your answers to both are yes, then sign up right away....!! For those of you who are thinking..."ill read his notes and then decide"...please dont...my notes will not in any real way reflect actually seeing the videos...if your thinking about going..,stop thinking and go. However for those of you who GENUINELY really want to go but cannot afford the $300 then do PM me and i'll send you my notes once i've typed it all up (gimme a couple of weeks please). I do think having notes is better than not going at all, but going is a million times better. Well thats all guys, thanks a million Julien, you were a great presenter and a great public speaker too (let alone your skills in game), Goran, was great seeing you again bro so long after the bootcamp (even though i couldn't notice the difference between you and your brother)... and everyone at the event....was great being with you all.... On one last note, if anyone is serious about going out 4-6 nights a week in london (central), then PM or text me (07947 892 962) and we'll hit the bars... peace, |
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| Author: | Selah [ Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RSD HOTSEAT 2 REVIEW LONDON WITH JULIEN |
Great notes, real informative. |
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