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| Author: | Roger_Swanson [ Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | The Importance of State and a 15 Second Kiss Close |
Lately I've been listening to some of Tyler's stuff about the importance of core confidence over situational confidence and natural game in general. Anyway I liked these ideas a lot and thought I'd put them to good use... So a few days ago I went to visit my friend in university for a night out. I recently made a firm decision to work on my core confidence after hearing Tyler talk about it and so I was practicing confidence as much as I could on my way to see him: talking to as many people as I could, smiling at girls, lots of eye contact. When I got to the house I was doing the same, big smile being as chatty and fun as I could. This 'priming' process did a lot to get me into state and by the time it got to going out I felt like a champ. Entry When we got the the club everyone went straight to the bar. We walked past two girls dancing on a bench. I was talking to someone so I didn't approach but I felt a tap on my shoulder as I walked past. I turned around and it was one of the girls, a HB8, brunette with a really nice tan and cute smile. So I turned and squinted at her inquisitively (thank you Mystery), and picked her up, spun her around and she says, "OH MY GOD YOU'RE SO STRONG!" I take this as an IOI and respond with something like "You know what, you're pretty cool in my book", making sure to ignore the compliment (not in a mean way; just so I didn't come off approval seeking. I tend to just reply with a smile usually). I probably could have k-closed pretty soon after that but I ejected so I didn't lose my friend and his housemates. Really regret not at least number closing but we all make mistakes. "SHE'S MINE!" So shortly after this we head to the dancefloor, which is packed, and make our way to the middle. I see a group of cute girls, spot the target (again a HB8 brunette) and walk straight through the circle with the cheekiest smile I could muster and just fucking hugged her, but like a huge 'holy-shit-that's-a-goddam-big-hug' hug. She hugs me back and all her friends are laughing. Her friends all come over and I start walking her away shouting "GET LOST!! SHE'S FUCKING MINE NOW, GET LOST!!!!" (still smiling and laughing). This went down even better still. It was a technique that I, again, learned from watching Tyler. I noticed that it makes them laugh and wins them over, but it also lets them know that you know what's going on and you're not just going to let them steal her away. Anyway, I push her away for a while and talk to her friends (all probably HB7-8's) as they're all really cool. I get a picture with one of them...then another...then another, and pretty soon I'm getting photos with the whole group (the last few taken by an AFC passer by (I remember thinking, "That was me not long ago")). Flashgame was doing wonders for my social status. So I decide that it's time to concentrate on the brunette HB8 again. I walk over and isolate her by hugging her and walking away a few feet. I engage her in some chat, I can't remember exactly what I said but then again...it's not what you say, it's how you say it, right? After a bit of this and some dancing I nudge her chin up with my hand and just go for it. We're making out for a while when one of her friends comes over and says, "We're going now". Instead of leaving me, she just says okay and carries on dancing (her friends don't leave, they hang around near us. I love human behaviour). Unfortunately this set didn't end perfectly. I fucked up and let her talk to her friends maybe half an hour after their first attempt and they convinced her to leave with them. I definitely should have fully isolated and bounced her to another room. They were an awesome group anyway and I had fun and spread some value. New tagline for PUAs "SPREAD VALUE, NOT STI'S"? We can team up with Trojan. Comments below! A Brief Encounter/the 15 Second Close So after this set left, I went to the bar to re-join my friends. As I got there, I saw this gorgeous blonde HB8 (I want to say HB9 but HB9 seems too extreme, especially as I don't really believe 10s exist. I also remember reading somewhere: "Everyone knows there is no such thing as a 1-10 scale, the only scale is 0-1. Everyone knows that." Food for thought. So anyway. I see this girl walking towards her friends and I just say "HEY YOU" as I'm pointing at her and walking towards her with a big grin on my face. I pick her up and spin her round. She's laughing and I say,"Who are you?" She replies with,"I'm [insert memory here]" I am awful with names. I push her chin up with my hand and she resists, she's looking down but smiling and she's still hugging me. I do it again and this time she goes with it and we make out. I stop kissing her after a while so I can say something and she's giggling, flustered. She says she's going to join her friends and I let her. Looking back on this now I want to slap myself for just letting her go. Twice in one night. Note to self: Be more dominant. In terms of game, nothing worth any note happened after that really. I struck out a few times but I guess that's inevitable. It was an awesome night, value giving and being the 'cool guy' is the best feeling ever. The Nadir of State A few days after this, I went to visit another friend who had organised a gathering of about 8 of his buddies, I only knew two other people including him. We were staying in a hotel and going out for two nights in the local clubs. So I went in with the same mentality as before, happy as fuck and smiley. We chatted for a while in the lobby of the hotel we were staying in and got to know each other. There was one guy who stood out. He was slightly older than everyone else and an AMOG. I guessed he'd make a good wingman...I've never been so fucking wrong. We got to a bar/club and I went to the bar to get a drink. There was a bit of a queue and I spotted my friend at the front who was about to get served, so I went to pass him some money to get me a drink. As I reached across, the AMOG I mentioned earlier pushed me back and said, "Stop trying to push in front of these girls!" and turned to a 6-set that was stood next to me, shook his head and mouthed 'Idiot'. I was raging. My state dropped like blue ice from an airplane toilet. I walked to the other side of the girls so I could avoid him and after maybe 30 seconds he blew himself out. I kept up the 'super-comfortable-in-himself' persona, which was now completely plastic and despite getting body language IOI's from a couple of the girls and other nearby sets, I couldn't bring myself to open. Looking back, all it would have taken was a laugh to brush him off and carry on what I was doing, but it just took me by total surprise that although he seemed like a fairly dominant guy, he still had to resort to belittling other guys to get a girls approval. I managed to K-Close a HB-6 later that night (who was actually quite pretty but slightly too big for my liking) but then it turned out that, although she sounded sober, she could barely stand up. So I left her with her friend. The rest of the weekend I was out of state a lot of the time due to a combination of fatigue (I've been doing the rounds visiting friends which has resulted in some good stories...but I'll save those for another post) and being with a slightly odd group who, under different circumstances, would probably never be friends. All in all, what I have taken from this experience is that the ideas of 'State' and 'Core Confidence' are very, very important for a solid game. Core confidence and value giving are things that should be worked on extremely hard. The second issue, and one that scared me, is alcohol. I currently drink when I go out, not to excess but enough to get a buzz. Now I sobered up one night and suddenly became self-conscious, which led me to question if my core confidence when I'm out is actually liquid confidence. I'm currently going to put my sudden self-consciousness down to being tired as it was really late and I'm not the self-conscious type, but some good clean day-game is definitely on the cards. I guess this FR highlights the idea of how one night you can be the King and the next night you can feel like someone just pissed on your cornflakes. It looks like the way to combat this inconsistency is rock hard core confidence and solid values. Let me know what you think. I'd also like to hear people's thoughts on natural game. I've been running it recently, it's working pretty well and I have fun doing it. I usually feel odd doing indirect, canned openers but I know this is a feeling I can push through. Keep Sarging. |
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