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What's Wrong With This Early-Stage Game?
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Author:  Lieutenant Dan [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:34 am ]
Post subject:  What's Wrong With This Early-Stage Game?
Here's a set I opened tonight, trying some new techniques from "The Mystery Method", which is a fantastic guide to pick up by the way. I have some questions below for anyone interested in helping me develop my skills.

1) I went up to a girl in the bar with her girlfriends and pretend I thought she was some other girl I knew very well as an opener. She responded positively to this, asking me questions about who I thought she was. I then went into the C's vs. U's routine along with a time constraint, which she also seemed interested in and laughing at. I added in a neg telling her I liked her blonde hair, but asking if it was real knowing it was not and pretending that I was not as impressed when I found out it was bleached. We even began a little light Kino, but things quickly went south after that.

I began a story that was meant to DHV, but she seemed to lose interest fast, and I believe the story was too long to hold her interest. I then went on to try and initiate a roleplay with her and pretend that I was going to show her around New York because she had just moved here, and I have been here a long time. However, she didn't play along with it at all and started looking bored. She then looked at drink drink as if to suggest that she needed another one and an excuse to leave. At that point, things got awkward and we both separated.

I saw her later in the bar walking near me and lightly suggested that she was stalking me as a means of striking up conversation with me, but she just moved along.

1) What did I do well here?
2) Why do you think she started losing interest?
3) What do you think would have been a good way to quickly regain her interest and continue the conversation without seeming desperate?


P.S. Just out of curiosity, what do you think about this little aside?

"I opened another mixed set by opening on one of the guys who was taking a photo of this group of girls (one of which was the target). I tried a shotgun neg saying to the guy, "Are these girls always like this-stealing the spotlight and needed to be the center of sttention?" Perhaps, I may have telegraphed my statement too much at the target because she gave me a very sour response and was cold and unreceptive to me for the rest of the conversation before walking away."
Author:  JackBNimble [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:48 am ]
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When you say things quickly went south after you initiated kino, what exactly happened there?
While it seems to me you could've been a bit more agressive, you don't appear to have waited too too long, so I can't say for certain.
Author:  Lieutenant Dan [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:10 pm ]
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After thinking back on my post, I may have made it seem too much like the change in the direction of the sarge had to do with the Kino. I actually think the kino was fine, and I am very sure that it was not what changed her attitude towards me. I am more focused on greeting feedback on my routines and how they likely led to her becoming disinterested
Author:  pumpington [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What's Wrong With This Early-Stage Game?
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1) What did I do well here?
approached girls you were interested in and gave it your best
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2) Why do you think she started losing interest?
absolutely impossible to tell from a post, why don't you ask her
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3) What do you think would have been a good way to quickly regain her interest and continue the conversation without seeming desperate?
some girls are not interested at all, and it has nothing to do with game, give it your best shot, if a girl isn't investing when you're offering value then don't worry about it, find a different girl
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P.S. Just out of curiosity, what do you think about this little aside?
don't put people down before you raise them up, there is this thing called the halo effect, and based off your first impression people will tend to make a judgement that usually will stick and effect how they percieve you in future interactions, a strong positive first impression will carry momentum for you into the interaction, open and hook before you break rapport on anyone
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