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| Author: | E_R0CK [ Sat May 05, 2012 10:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Soloing a club/question on a 4-set |
So last night I was out at a local country club (lots of single women and I get in for free since I am military). I was running solo and was just there to practice. I opened up as many sets as I could (I think too many, I am sure the females were catching on). The cougars are always the easiest, one took my kino and one upped me telling me to grab her ass, I told her how is mine too (she was all over me, her friend was there though so she backed off, and she smoked like a cowboy so I wasn't interested). I tottaly bombed a few sets but its all good. I left the stage after about 1.5 hours, I was tired and did what I came to achieve. The main question I have is about this 4-set. It was HB7, HB7, HB3, HB4. I opened with an opinion opener, and did some group kino (high fives I believe). I flirted with the ugly ones a little at first, to confuse the cute ones (good or bad?), then moved to the cute ones. I did some banter, sexual innduendo, the usual. They came back saying they are lesbians. I figure it was a shit test so I just said I am gay too. They laughed. I then flipped flopped and said just playing, but we both like women, so we have a lot in common (good or poor choice?). I could tell my time was running short, so I threw a time contsraint and ejected. I later saw the group at the bar, and ran some C&F. Me - You guys must be nervous Them - Why, blah blah Me - You're standing next to me and are trying to work up the courage to buy me a drink (this is where I get thrown off) HB3 - Thats not the way it works, you can buy me a shot of tequila though I just laugh and eject, I had no idea how to handle this, my goal was either of HB7. Do you guys have any suggestions? I do not prep at all, I just open and let whatever comes to my head first out. Sometimes its horrible, sometimes its good. I figure this will build my competence faster. What I learned was: You have to be more selective in opening sets if you are actually seeking a close. There was no way they were not catching on, it is a medium place, but lots of field of views. Soloing sets is hard, a wing would be nice. Fat girls in Vegas think they are hot. |
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| Author: | OutOfController [ Sun May 06, 2012 3:09 am ] |
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You say you did some kino, but not sure exactly what... (high fives)... we all like a drink, but you may have had too much, I'm just saying. We've all been there, so don't take offence. A group of 4 women are pretty intimidating to most loser guys, and even then most guys will give up at the first sign of an objection. You would think that this group would be grateful for the attention, but I think with the split of them, the 3 and the 4 would have got jealous and tried to steal some of then attention. Did you notice any of that, or the nasty looking ones taking control, whispering or trying to influence the nice ones? You never mentioned it in your report, and I think it could be an important factor. I wouldn't have said I was gay. I think it was a nice idea, and like you said, it got a laugh, but I'm a predator, and I pursue the things I want agressively. I'm sure they saw it as funny, but you say something like that and, in the eyes of the woman, you're not the caveman predator that they want to be chased by, in my opinion. Just my thoughts, but your own sexuality isn't something you should joke about, unless you're after a real kinky girl. Anyway, especially not chasing a group of 4, where group opinion rules. Anyway, other things. Time constraint should have been brought in way earlier. If you're blathering away for a while and then talk about jetting, especially after encountering objections etc.. it makes it look like you're cutting your losses. I'm new to this whole 'game' thing, and certainly not a 'PUA', but seriously, if a '3' had told me that I could buy her a shot, I would have laughed in her face. That's exactly the way it does work, although I'm sure she had plenty of other targets. It's often the case I have found, where you have a group and there is a big disparity between the top girls of the gro and the bottom, the bigger the case of latent jealous, and therefore sabotage... A group of 4 girls who are all shit hot looking is a whole lot easier than a group of 4 with 2 lookers and 2 ogres... as crazy as it sounds, I tend to avoid that combination. |
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