PUA Forum :: FR: Humbleness

I believe that bold honesty can be very appreciated by the woman if done correctly. There was no attempt to disqualify, neg or bring her down in any kind of way. I honestly just don't buy strangers drinks and the fact that she has a vagina doesn't really affect my decision about it this time either.

I think the guys that buy girls drinks are genuinely scared they will LOSE her if they don't buy her a drink (which translates into buying some more 'time' with her) and is generally rooted from scarcity.

Terrible mindset nevertheless . . .

HB8: . . . Well he said you should kiss me. Do you know him??

Well I really like your interaction with that girl but why didn't you kiss her? I think you could of done that earlier. And this is a question in general. Do you always not kiss her on purpose to generate sexual tension while escalating but not kissing her?

Really enjoyed reading this post, mainly because you do genuinely fault yourself and don't mind it. I read a lot of posts where people seem to want feedback but then when criticized, defend themselves.
I like your honesty. And your game!

Also the fact that you were genuinely having fun, and forgot your 'game' at points due to this. I'm only just getting into it (and am currently at information overload level!) but enjoyed your how genuine and natural your interaction seemed. You liked her, and didn't seem to be ticking boxes and working out when to escalate etc.

That thing about the guy who comes and whispers in a girls ears reminds me of me. I always do that if i see sparks between girl and a boy interacting with each other which have resulted in some friendships and social proof in the clubs.

Author:	Little Panda [ Wed May 02, 2012 1:37 am ]
Post subject:	FR: Humbleness
People in story: American Wing HB8 (my target) Professor X (the professor of the students. There was about 30 of them) My wing and I were in a random Irish Pub, where we spotted a group of people from the Netherlands. They were apparently there on some kind of 'school-trip' doing some research about Bosnians. I just love foreigners, so I had a legitimate reason to approach. I talk to the HB8 . . . ME: You're not from here, are you? In fact, I can tell you're Swedish. HB8: Haha no, I'm actually from the Netherlands. ME: The Netherlands? No you're not. You got blonde hair and blue eyes. You're Swedish. HB8: Haha not all people that are blonde are Swedish. ME: Yes . . . Yes they are (I don't know, I was just spewing some bullshit). HB8: Haha what?? What's your name? Some random conversation went on. I actually thought she was interesting because we had a lot of things in common to talk about, so I didn't rush for any close or anything at this point. HB8: How old are you? ME: Take a guess. HB8: 23? ME: Close. I'm 15. HB8: No you're not! ME: Alright alright, you got me. I'm actually 12. HB8: No seriously! How old are you? ME: I'm 20, and you? HB8: That's really young! I'm 24. ME: Well if you don't like it, you might as well walk away HB8: No, no, I don't mind it. Some random talk, can't remember. HB8: You know, you should buy me a beer. ME: What makes you say that? HB8: Because I've been really nice to you and I think I deserve one. ME: I don't buy strangers beers, sorry. In fact, you should buy me a beer and I'll take the next round. That should make it fair. HB8: Omg, you're such an asshole (playful hit). ME: That's really nice of you, because mostly I'm known as 'The Antichrist'. HB8: (laughs) - Well I'm no angel myself to be honest. ME: Good, let's be assholes together then. We'll conquer the world together. HB8: Deal! My American Wingman appears and starts talking to HB8 (it was his set initially, when we first walked in to the Pub, but she blew him off very early on). He starts dancing with her. I know my wing is no threat and that this chick is more into me than him, so I simply turn around and start talking to some other girl. HB8 gets really jealous, lets go of my friend and turns me around. HB8: It's really weird, your friend tried kissing me. ME: Oh did he now? (smiles) Well he's a really nice guy, you should kiss him back (disqualifier). HB8: No! I think he actually might be gay (this made my night). Some random talk about whether or not my wingman is gay. LOL. An 80 year old appears and whispers something in HB8's ear (wtf?). She opens her mouth in shock. The old man disappears. ME: What did he tell you? HB8: You don't wanna know . . . ME: Come on now, I'm really curious. HB8: . . . Well he said you should kiss me. Do you know him?? ME: No idea who he is. But he does have a point though. I should definitely kiss you. I pull her in and we start making out. I then attempt to go for the lay, but her professor come up to me. Professor X: (leaned in, whispering in my ear) You like this girl? ME: Yes, I think she's adorable. Professor X: Yeah well she seems to really be into you. However, we're leaving early in the morning, we gotta catch the flight. ME: (fuck fuck fuck) Oh . . . When are you guys done for the night? Professor X: I'm gathering up the students right now actually, we're leaving. Sorry bro. I didn't even care because ^that right there is the demonstration of an AWESOME PROFESSOR. Seriously, I wish I had professors like that. He was actually apologetic about the fact that I couldn't bang one of his students. Unbelievable. Went home and made love to my right hand instead. Point of story: * Not sure how much it was shown in this story, but BEING HUMBLE IS KEY. No matter what shit test she throws at you, you agree and you play along. In fact, you exaggerate it to the point it's funny. If she calls you an asshole, then fine - you're an asshole. And you're not just an asshole. You're the fucking antichrist. What's she gonna do about it? It shows humbleness and it's very attractive. * Your age doesn't matter. Don't hide it, don't avoid giving it away. SHOW PRIDE IN IT. If she doesn't like it, she can walk away. In fact, tell her this openly. * Choose your wingmen wisely. My wingman decided to betray me. Yes, yes, the set WAS initially HIS, but she blew him off so I took over. Fair and square. If your wingman then tries to interfer AGAIN - simply let him. It was already game over for him a long time ago. In fact, SUPPORT his second approach. She will only be MORE attracted to you if you push her in the direction of another man.

Author:	skills360 [ Wed May 02, 2012 4:27 pm ]
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panda, strong performance, i love what you did with the drink request...

Author:	Little Panda [ Wed May 02, 2012 4:58 pm ]
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I believe that bold honesty can be very appreciated by the woman if done correctly. There was no attempt to disqualify, neg or bring her down in any kind of way. I honestly just don't buy strangers drinks and the fact that she has a vagina doesn't really affect my decision about it this time either. I think the guys that buy girls drinks are genuinely scared they will LOSE her if they don't buy her a drink (which translates into buying some more 'time' with her) and is generally rooted from scarcity. Terrible mindset nevertheless . . .

Author:	skills360 [ Wed May 02, 2012 5:47 pm ]
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Quote: I believe that bold honesty can be very appreciated by the woman if done correctly. There was no attempt to disqualify, neg or bring her down in any kind of way. I honestly just don't buy strangers drinks and the fact that she has a vagina doesn't really affect my decision about it this time either. I think the guys that buy girls drinks are genuinely scared they will LOSE her if they don't buy her a drink (which translates into buying some more 'time' with her) and is generally rooted from scarcity. Terrible mindset nevertheless . . . i bought a girl water this weekend, she was into me and i made out with her, sometimes is ok, women do not like a cheap guy, but they do not like guys that give them what they want either, is good to calibrate, in your case, you handle it perfectly... if it was not because of logistic that was a perfect snl, opportunity, out of town about to leave, i would have game the professor to let her stay with you and you take her back, but maybe that could not happen.

Author:	Little Panda [ Wed May 02, 2012 5:50 pm ]
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^I didn't add this part in the FR, but after she went to the bathroom I had a drink with the professor and really tried connecting with him. We got along great and the guy loved me. But he simply can't let one of his students wander of with a stranger like that, when they have an early flight to catch. But oh well, can't score every night.

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Author:	Heywood Jablowme [ Wed May 02, 2012 5:55 pm ]
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Nice job!

Author:	NikAFC [ Wed May 02, 2012 6:01 pm ]
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Quote: HB8: . . . Well he said you should kiss me. Do you know him?? Well I really like your interaction with that girl but why didn't you kiss her? I think you could of done that earlier. And this is a question in general. Do you always not kiss her on purpose to generate sexual tension while escalating but not kissing her? That thing about the guy who comes and whispers in a girls ears reminds me of me. I always do that if i see sparks between girl and a boy interacting with each other which have resulted in some friendships and social proof in the clubs.

Author:	Little Panda [ Wed May 02, 2012 6:11 pm ]
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Quote: Well I really like your interaction with that girl but why didn't you kiss her? I think you could of done that earlier. And this is a question in general. Do you always not kiss her on purpose to generate sexual tension while escalating but not kissing her? I'm glad you picked up on this. Yes, I could have kissed her earlier. MUCH earlier actually. But I genuinely had a great time with her and enjoyed myself. The moment I realized that 'Oh, I can probably go ahead and kiss her now . . . ' was the moment when I thought 'Ah, I'll just do it whenever I feel like it.' It had nothing to do with sexual tension. In fact, I wouldn't recommend holding it back for so long. I made a mistake there and then completely forgot how long time had passed from the moment we started talking. When the professor then whispered in her ear and she told me what he said . . . I felt stupid. So . . . kiss early on. State intentions. No reason to waste time. Because if she had rejected me by the time I decided to kiss her - I just wasted all that time on this one girl for no reason at all. Total mistake, not recommended.

Author:	skills360 [ Fri May 04, 2012 4:16 pm ]
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I think little panda is one of the few posters, who has game and he is only 20, i wish you would contribute more, instead of all the mental masturbation that is mostly posted in the forum...Little panda who influence your game, seduction school?

Author:	Little Panda [ Sun May 06, 2012 7:36 am ]
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I was initially learning everything I knew about women through books (seduction community, yes) and it took me around a whole year to 'logically' understand how women work. It then took me another year of experimenting and trying out what works and what doesn't. And another year later (basically a few months ago) my game skyrocketed because I started to truly internalize everything I've learned and apply it 'correctly'. I'm still learning though, there is no 'mastery' in me yet. I'm therefore starting a journal today to really see where I'm at and what I can become in time.

Author:	v.y.b.e [ Fri May 11, 2012 8:59 pm ]
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Really enjoyed reading this post, mainly because you do genuinely fault yourself and don't mind it. I read a lot of posts where people seem to want feedback but then when criticized, defend themselves. I like your honesty. And your game! Also the fact that you were genuinely having fun, and forgot your 'game' at points due to this. I'm only just getting into it (and am currently at information overload level!) but enjoyed your how genuine and natural your interaction seemed. You liked her, and didn't seem to be ticking boxes and working out when to escalate etc.

Author:	Little Panda [ Fri May 11, 2012 10:57 pm ]
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Quote: Really enjoyed reading this post, mainly because you do genuinely fault yourself and don't mind it. I read a lot of posts where people seem to want feedback but then when criticized, defend themselves. I like your honesty. And your game! Also the fact that you were genuinely having fun, and forgot your 'game' at points due to this. I'm only just getting into it (and am currently at information overload level!) but enjoyed your how genuine and natural your interaction seemed. You liked her, and didn't seem to be ticking boxes and working out when to escalate etc. This is exactly what I'm trying to project to people. Being honest with yourself and accepting the level you're at is the only way you'll ever progress properly.

Author:	NaturesFoulChild [ Wed May 16, 2012 4:28 pm ]
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Loving the FR, Little Panda. Also, this Quote: That thing about the guy who comes and whispers in a girls ears reminds me of me. I always do that if i see sparks between girl and a boy interacting with each other which have resulted in some friendships and social proof in the clubs. seems to be a fun idea.

Author:	cruisecontrol [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:44 pm ]
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Quote: Really enjoyed reading this post, mainly because you do genuinely fault yourself and don't mind it. I read a lot of posts where people seem to want feedback but then when criticized, defend themselves. I like your honesty. And your game! Also the fact that you were genuinely having fun, and forgot your 'game' at points due to this. I'm only just getting into it (and am currently at information overload level!) but enjoyed your how genuine and natural your interaction seemed. You liked her, and didn't seem to be ticking boxes and working out when to escalate etc. yeah i am 4 or so months into reading and know about overload. I am now re-reading MM and making some notes to speed read before going out to help remind me. It's also provoking memories of all my own similar past stories and writing them up and tweaking to help recite them with the right pointers. Panda it's great to read this episode, very natural and I am sure we all have or will have stories like this and we just get better with experience.

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Author:	Fredsman [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:28 am ]
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Absolute gold. Where are you from Panda?