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Author:  VodkaHaze [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:48 pm ]
Post subject:  VodkaHaze's Journal of Awesome
Hey guys, I noticed most of the guys who seem good have or have had journals. I want to become awesome at this stuff and I'm a pretty big attention whore. So I think I fit all the criteria to get my own journal going.


I start right off the gate today, I'm supposed to go on a date with a girl I # closed a while ago. Solid 8+ russian girl (HBRussia from now on), but doesn't seem all too uppity for her hotness, actually kind of shy/coy.

I got the number a while ago, was a pretty weak # close, I had massive amounts of attraction but little qualification and no timebridge to build it on. I thought I lost it (really unresponsive to phone game), but she contacted me yesterday. I invited her to come along to hangout with me downtown and she said she can't but she wants to do something tommorow (which is today for you calendar impaired folks).

Logistically it's going to be pretty hard to go for the fuck. My house is out of question and I expect hers to be too. I'll get sexual comfort and make sure to kiss close early in the date and I'll see where it goes from there.

As you can all see from my essay above, I'm overthinking this massively. I'm just starting to get seriously into game and I'm pretty excited about getting some results in, even if it's just day 2s with hotties.

Will keep you guys updated.
Author:  VodkaHaze [ Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:07 pm ]
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Date report:

In summary, it went OK but I didn't nearly escalate kino enough. I got most of the "friendly" kino, and the playful stuff but no overtly romantic/sexual kino going. Which means no KC. My Date game is weaker than my cold approach game for sure; that was my biggest AFC sticking point. I actually missed a clutch while she put her hand out to walk "together" and I made a terrible joke about it instead of just taking it. Bad VodkaHaze. More than that I just had general problems going from playful to overtly sexual.

So now I have fairly deep comfort (about 5-6 hrs) with HBRussia without nearly enough kino going to match. I'll have to break some rapport hard or something next time I see her. Rather lose the girl than go to friendzone.

Moreover, I expect to need to bring my A game in escalation if I don't want to hit massive LMR with her. She said most guys are scared to approach her (believable; she is hot and has that kind of vibe. Also guys are pussies) and she thinks she's "hard to get" and a cockblock (her words).


Also: I need to find a way to set boundaries without creating awkwardness. I went to see a friend of mine who is the manager in a bar we walked past. When we were leaving she started walking out after saying bye which forced me to cut off conversation with my friend. She got really sad when I told her I found that rude and I didn't find a way to tell her I didn't appreciate that behavior without creating a plethora of negativity in the interaction.


Summary:
- escalate more, get to overtly romantic kino fast in dates
- learn how to set boundaries without creating awkwardness
- get some more dates!
Author:  *FlaiR* [ Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:11 pm ]
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You never punish with verbal words. That's why she got pissed. In order to set boundaries, you must telegraph what are your boundaries through emotions or actions. I'll explain to you the most effective way you can do this next time we meet eachother.

It's normal that you have fear of escalating with a hot girl, it happens to all of us. But you need to push yourself the most that you can. You've made some mistakes, but the game with this girl is not over. The worse thing that can happen is that she puts you in the LJBF zone. However, that's not even that bad. You can use her to introduce you to some of her friends or to meet other girls. So you have a win-win situation. Never focus on negativity. Acknowledge it...but don't focus on it. Once you discovered what errors you made, focus on what solution can you take to overcome these errors. Focusing on the problems or the things you missed out in your set/date are not going to make you improve.

It's good that you're going out and putting yourself on the line. Keep up the good work..short term period = long term pleasure :wink:
Author:  VodkaHaze [ Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:11 pm ]
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Thanks Valentyn, feedback is always appreciated. I have problems with setting boundaries so I'm interested with what you have to say on that.



Little FR:

At a friend's birthday party with a bunch of my frat brothers. A couple of sorority girls there, ran a bit of game but not all that much. I remember a 3 set with a guy, his girlfriend, and a hottie which as far as I'm concerned was single. I was mostly the entertainer of the set (as you have to be until you get to qualification I find), but the single was giving me a bit of resistance and I fucked it up. I lost energy within the set and the conversation kind of lulled. Never count on other people to be interesting or to keep an interaction going.

=> still need to practice mixed sets; not very good at that

On the other hand, a frat brother of mine who is kind of a natural but reads up on community stuff all the time has shown some really good game. We were 3 guys and a girl in a set. I don't think he had that much more attraction with her than me, but as soon as my focus is on the third dude to chat a bit, he is in heavy kino mode and going for the KC. Gets rejected a couple of times but ends up getting it, obv.
Author:  VodkaHaze [ Sun Apr 22, 2012 5:34 pm ]
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Yesterday was meh, I was going to go clubbing with Valentyn for his birthday but I fucked up on my oil change and ended stranded in the west island. Pretty sure the night would have been epic over there at 737. Oh well, we'll catch up soon bro.

Ended up at some bar and drunk as hell (hurray for not driving!), I vaguely remember opening a bunch of sets. It's good I'm making this a habit when I'm out in bars even with AFCs; I need to implement that in daygame too.

Even though I easily open and transition, I always seem to bail at some point to go do some other stuff. Probably some inner game leak (gaming drunk is a pretty good test of your inner game), I'll find out what.
Author:  VodkaHaze [ Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:46 pm ]
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Day Game


So went to a day game workshop, had a little talk with a couple of guys then went out sarging the mall with Swinths. The emphasis was that direct game is where it's at and that everything is about being direct and honest with yourself and others.

I had never "gone out sarging" day game before, but Swinths had and opened a set right away, which did a nice job breaking the ice. The theme of the day was direct game (which I never really tried before) and all of Swinths' approaches were direct.

I tried some direct approaches, first one was a smoking hot girl who walked by us. I did the opener but didn't stop her from walking so the set went off in about 12 seconds.

=> note to self: stop girls; can't have a set walking

Did a couple more which were so and so, mostly blowouts, and also got into a 30ish min 3 way conversation with a girl and swinths about why chicks like foreign guys better (got a number out of that but meh, indirect approach and not that much chemistry).

After, Swinths got a solid number from a hot girl sitting around (direct, as usual) and told me I still had to do an approach or two more. I did pretty much right away, had a direct opener for this chick sitting down, got into a a 5-10 minute conversation with her and ended up with the number after I gave her some false time constraint (coulda stayed longer I guess). She had a boyfriend apparently, but we'll see how that turns out.

Anyway, this was more about learning direct game and it's definitely going to be a staple of mine from now on. Good to have successes on the first day trying this stuff out, too.
Author:  VodkaHaze [ Wed May 09, 2012 6:24 pm ]
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So I've been pretty inactive lately, kind of fell into a rut of non approaching for the last 4 or 5 days. It's not the end of the world, but I need to realize when those happen and act on it. Mostly because I hung out with guys who don't cold approach and I fell into the habit of not approaching.

Think I'll make it a rule of doing at least a certain number of direct approaches a week while I go about my daily life, to pick up good habits.
Author:  VodkaHaze [ Sun May 13, 2012 8:01 pm ]
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Had a pretty fun frat party this weekend, bro/ho ratio was meh (like 3-1 -_-), but I went out there with the goal of enjoying myself, not actively sarge.

Started right away saying random hilarious things at strangers in the streets (protip: if you say the hook line of a rap song out of context to someone it will be hilarious most of the time). Got into social mode pretty fast and I was pretty comfortable at being naturally touchy with at the party (which is a major leak in my game).

Now that doesn't mean I got any closes, and closes get you laid (which from what I've heard feels good or something). So from now on, I want to install a rule that I must make 3-5 direct approaches a week while going about my daily life. I'll report how those go.
Author:  VodkaHaze [ Sat May 19, 2012 11:00 pm ]
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Went out with Jdragon at a party this weekend, did a lot of approaches, hooked, brought good vibes but didn't close much. Think a consistent problem of mine is that I spread myself out too thin when I go out. I'll try to go in depth in sets with girls now more than just messing around left, right and center and then bouncing from place to place.

On another note, I'm starting the direct game self challenge; I'll report here how each approaches went every week. That way, even if everyone is busy I'll still get some practice and motivation in.
Author:  VodkaHaze [ Sun May 20, 2012 5:29 pm ]
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Went out with Flair and a few other guys yesterday, good times, really chill guys. Flair's game is definitely tighter than mine, always good to go out with those guys. On my end, I went about my usual stuff, missed a # close with a really hot girl off the street before even meeting with the guys. She was into me, got dragged off by her friends and I missed the clutch to get her number so we could meet up later the same night. I need to pick up the habit of getting numbers down whenever I can; pickups off the street like this feels more like daygame (even on st-laurent at 11pm a saturday) so it would have been a fairly solid number.

After that, went about having a good time in the club.

Got to the same "lack of depth" sticking point I get in clubs most of the time; Flair told me he usually stays 20+ minutes with a girl in a club before he gets a number. This is good, I REALLY need to focus more on qualifying and screening/getting to know the girl if my plan is to get a number and day2. Most of my sets that night were between 2 and 10 minutes, much too short to get any depth.

After that they went to some other club, by that point I was dead tired and pretty hungry, too out of state to be productive. I guess that's what routines are for; never bothered to learn any so my game straight sucks when I'm out of it.
Author:  VodkaHaze [ Tue May 22, 2012 3:09 pm ]
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Went doing day (?) game with riddler yesterday. Was more like nightgame in the daytime, since we went to piknik electronique, a huge daytime party every weekend in Montreal.

Was a fun day, a LOT of opening, not much closing though. I don't feel like I'm ironing out my sticking points.

Need to make a conscious effort to:

1) Qualify more, ask more questions instead of carrying the conversation

2) Take phone numbers down no matter what/who

3) Ask girls "Cool. Can I motorboat you now?" more often (it's hilarious)

4) Bounce girls! I need to move my sets from dancefloor to "chill" locations if I want to go deeper.
Author:  *FlaiR* [ Wed May 23, 2012 12:47 am ]
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You can qualify by making statements also and see if she's investing in getting to know you / your interaction. Don't ask too many questions, in my opinion. You'll look like a news reporter doing an interview to them. People who know each other talk in statements. Just don't false eject. Stay in set as long as you can, if you want to go deeper in your sets. You can basically talk about any topic whatsoever. The actual content is not important, as long as your sexually escalating when a window of opportunity pops out, you're comfortable around women and you're not seeking any approval from them.
Author:  VodkaHaze [ Thu May 24, 2012 9:46 pm ]
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Yeah, I still false eject from sets, I need to get that to stop.

As for the question thing, I have the opposite problem of "interview mode"; I take charge of the interactions too much instead of having them go back and forth. I do need to ask more questions and take more interest in people I'm talking to in general.


I went out with StickyFingers yesterday after St-Sulpice; not really sarging as much as chilling. My car was stuck right in the heart of the protests, and I pretty much had to spend some more time downtown. Sticky gamed harder than I did and got 2 numbers that night from girls I could have basically NC'ed if I was more clutch. Just goes to show the good habits he picked up that I need to get on to Smile.

So basically, same sticking points as I stated last post; NC'ing everyone, making girls invest more in the interactions and bouncing girls around. Also, the motorboat thing (obviously).
Author:  Brotein [ Thu May 24, 2012 10:11 pm ]
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reduce flaking and increase receptiveness to numbers:

signal with body language that you are about to leave but notice something interesting about her

find out 3-5 cool unique things about her and use that as reasoning to call her

screen for negative traits that you don't like in women

dhv indirectly


but keep it up man. i'm not claiming to be a good pua but sure have read alot of shit to have the strategy haha.
Author:  *FlaiR* [ Fri May 25, 2012 1:41 am ]
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Quote:
reduce flaking and increase receptiveness to numbers:

signal with body language that you are about to leave but notice something interesting about her

find out 3-5 cool unique things about her and use that as reasoning to call her

screen for negative traits that you don't like in women

dhv indirectly


but keep it up man. i'm not claiming to be a good pua but sure have read alot of shit to have the strategy haha.
:lol: Yeah you sure know what you're talking about
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