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| Author: | Gamble49 [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Report and doubts about the PUA journey |
I will call my friend HBF for sakes of privacy. I just got back from “hanging out” with HBF today. I have to say it was a fucking eye opener, I realized I actually don’t know how to behave around her or any women in that matter when we are just hanging out as friends. Everything was going “according to plan” when I got out of the house and went to her place. I had in my mind I had to be the dominant person so as soon as I got to her place I said “hi! grab your keys and lets go” she hesitated for a moment but then put on some sweat pants and gave me the keys of her car. We went to smoke some cigars close to school and everything seemed right, I mean the energy was good, the vibe was great, I used routines and gave her a hard time, all in a playful manner. I fooled myself to believe that she was DTF since we cracked some sexually charged jokes on our way to hookah, yes I tried that shit for the first time! Anyways, the game was on or so I thought. We started smoking and I tried to kept the same energy level that we had in the car. I think the energy wasn’t as good as it was in the car but still good enough to build some rapport. I started kino escalation and she responded good the 1st time (kind of cuddled), then she started texting or some shit I can’t remember what it was so I took my arm off her and said “you are losing me”. She said “okay” and was siting normally again like nothing happened. Since I’m obviously still an AFC, I tried to cuddle again because I liked the feeling, although this time it felt like the cuddling was forced (bad on my part). I ran the cube and she seemed to be into it but it really didn’t have the response I was expecting like with chicks you just meet. We moved to a more comfortable place in the bar and we talk for a while, I noticed she started to lose interest again because she started texting another guy. I took her phone away and told her “you have to focus on me” and so she did and the vibe was a bit better. I thought I built enough rapport to start a more aggressive kino escalation so I started biting her ear. I believe at some point she was into it because she just went with it while giggling. After a few minutes like this I pull her closer to me to go for the kiss-close but she says “Stop it!” I thought it was some kind of LMR for the kiss so said “What? We’re not doing anything” and keep doing it, again she seems to be into it until she hits a point where she got pissed, her entire face changed as well as her body language and said “Stop it! I don’t want to do it. It can’t happen again” I said “I’m not going to apologize for how I feel but we are both adults and can figure out what we want” HBF got really mad and said “I want to leave” and she went on on how I’m still the same, that we cannot hang out as normal friends because I always have my hands all over her, that I disrespected her and stuff like that. I obviously didn’t feel bad at all, I was actually trying to win over the argument and break her just so I can hook up with her. I consider HBF a really good friend, and I don’t have romantic feelings for her anymore (yes, we used to date). It does feel good to have her around as when we used to date (cuddling, playing, etc) when she said I disrespected her that made me think if I took this PUA thing too far. I mean am I going to run out of female friends (I mean true friends not friends that you hook up with) just because all I have in my head is pick up girls? I apologized for how I made her feel and told her that I would not contact her in any way until she has digested my apology and everything I said, and if she wants to contact when she’s over it she can. I love this PUA stuff, its great but I don’t know how far I should take it. I went out with her with the mentality of just hanging out was friends, but suddenly an “auto-pilot” kicked in and I started using the lines and routines from the community to get her. Would you think this “auto-pilot” kicked in because somehow I still have feelings for her even though I claim not to? or would it be because PUA is an addiction and I want to try it on everyone? or because I straight don’t know how to behave around female friends (again real friends)? What advice does the community has for me? What should I do to get better as a PUA and as a person? Is this something I should expect as a PUA? -Gamble |
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