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Author:	AFC Spinner [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:49 pm ]
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Day 0: Allow Me to Introduce Myself I’m Spinner, I’m 21 and in college. I recently broke up with my girlfriend of 5 years (on and off). We were together since we were both 16 years old. I broke up with her so that I could meet other people and grow on my own as a man. I felt like we were married at 21 and didn’t like it. Anyways, after a month apart she hooked up with someone else and I had made no progress whatsoever. I’m a decent enough looking guy, but I’m shy and have a tendency to make things awkward from time to time in conversation. I’m introverted but I’ve been able to be outgoing when I’ve pushed myself a little (or been tipsy). I’ve been a lurker on this forum for a while, and have picked up some things that have helped me in a few situations but I want to learn more and better understand what attracts women. Who I Want to Become: - More social, - Be able to own the room. - Attract the kind of women I find attractive. - More confident and secure within myself. - Less needy (being out of my LTR makes me feel so damn needy and weak). - Be all these things on my own, while sober. What I know now: By all definitions, I’m an AFC. Most of my luck with women has come when we were both drunk. I had luck in high school with a few HB 7’s before I met my ex GF, but my game has been non-existent in the 5 years we dated (minus a few drunk hookups with ugly girls when me and my GF took breaks from dating). To sum it up, I know next to nothing about game. Plan of Attack: I have roughly a semester left of my 3rd year in college. However, it will take me 5 years to graduate so I have 2 more years after this one. I want to get the most out of my remaining time here. I want to go out and approach women but I don’t even know where to start. What should I do and where should I go to practice? I’m not entirely afraid of rejection which I think is a plus, but then again I haven’t put myself out there in a while (while sober) so maybe it’s worse than I imagine. Either way I’m going to find out. Any advice or tips would be much appreciated and I will scan the forum in the meantime to develop a plan of attack for Day 1.

Author:	AFC Spinner [ Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:34 pm ]
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Day 1: Missed Opportunity I hadn't yet put together the plan of attack I mentioned in my first post. I have a big exam tomorrow, and today I was planning on just going to classes and studying afterwards all night. In one of my classes a girl (6.5,7) sat in front of me for a quiz. Last week she asked to borrow a pencil from me, and this week she forgot her calculator so she turned around and asked to borrow mine. I feel like I could have set something up with her but I really don't have any idea of how to go about it as of yet. Here's the conversation: Her: Hey sorry can I borrow your calculator? I forgot mine today. Me: Yeah sure, just give it back when you get to part D (calculator wasn't required past this point) Her: Ok here you go (hands it back). Thank you so much! I'm so sorry! Me: No problem don't worry about it. (should I have teased her? It felt like a bad time as we were in the middle of a test). Her: Hey can I see it again real quick, so sorry! Me: Smiled- yeah no problem Her: Hands it back...super sorry! blah blah Me: Smiled- Haha are you sure this is the last time? Her: Yeah thanks so much! Typing this conversation makes me realize how little was actually said and how much was just repeated. I felt like since she asked me to borrow a pencil last class, and a calculator this time I could have teased her after class about being unprepared/needy, and start a conversation/get her name but I really didn't know how to go about doing this! What I Learned I didn't learn much other than I'm really unprepared and need to be ready for when opportunities present themselves. I wasn't sure if it would be weird to wait for her after class outside the room (would it make me seem needy?), so I just handed in my paper and left. She wasn't done yet when I left so maybe I'll talk to her next class or something. Am I making Excuses? Am I making it harder than it seems to just start conversation? Maybe my inner game is weak or I'm so focused subconsciously on meeting a girl and fucking her to get back at my ex, that I don't look to people for just casual conversation. I realize my ex didn't do anything wrong considering I broke up with her, so I can honestly say I'm not knowingly trying to seek revenge. I feel like naturally social people aren't nearly as over analytical when it comes to making conversation. I really did have a lot of excuses flooding my brain, and looking back it seems stupid that I couldn't just start a conversation with her after class. It will be different next time. Tomorrow Night I'll be going out to celebrate getting this exam out of the way. I plan on looking up a few openers and visualize/rehearse opening sets before I go out (is it bad to do this?). I just don't feel like I can rely on spontaneity to open sets right now. I'll give a full report. Any advice would be great!

Author:	AFC Spinner [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:45 pm ]
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Getting Over Her: My ex gf isn't completely out of my life. In fact, we hang out like 4 days a week. I'm scared that if I don't hang out with her, she will go out and do something with another guy. I feel so weak, I hate it. I don't want to date her. I really just don't want to care about what she does or who she hangs around. She's a good friend as well but I know I can't improve and move forward unless she's out of my life for a while. I also feel that because she went out and fucked some guy while we weren't dating, that I'm rushed in my approach toward interacting with women because I feel the need to catch up or get back at her. I'm not sure what to do, today I've hit a pretty low point. Wednesday: I didn't go out Wednesday. Instead, I hung out with my roommate and the two girls in the apartment next door. They both have boyfriends but it was good to interact with them positively. So often I feel like I just sit in my room and get pissed at how I'm so bad with women or how it seems impossible to talk or connect. But then I push myself to talk and it never goes as poorly as I think it will. Tonight: I'm going out tonight. My friend is coming to town for the night and we'll go to a few local bars. I'll use this as my first legitimate attempt to do something significant/ pick up related. Here is my goal: 1. Open at least 5 sets I'd like to make bigger/more elaborate goals but I feel like I'd be getting ahead of myself. I just need to approach women. Period.

Author:	tkercher [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:14 pm ]
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If you're approaching girls on the street talk to them with your back turned looking over your shoulder. It communicates attraction without saying anything. You can do it man! Pretty soon you'll materialize some relationships out of thin air. And, I know this is easier to say, but try not to compete with the girl. It's not a race, right?

Author:	AFC Spinner [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:52 pm ]
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Last Night: It's honestly not even worth writing about. I got drunk, my ex gf showed up and we got into a fight. I said/ texted some of the meanest things. I can't believe I said shit like that to her and today she told me she hated me so suffice to say I won't be seeing her any time soon. Pick Up is so hard for me. Every time I sit down and write on this forum I feel empowered, like I could go right out and have success. However, as soon as I'm "out there" I remember how hard it is and all my old fears come back to me. There is so much information on this site, it's difficult to know what's the best advice to adhere to. I just read a thread on college game that said most of the success you could have with women in college relies on your social circles. I honestly have the smallest social circle of anyone I know. Freshman year I was on the track team and was around my teammates for 20 hours or so a week and didn't go out on the weekends. I didn't live in a freshman dorm, and being that I'm far from outgoing, I didn't meet anyone outside of the team. The next year, I just hung out with my girlfriend and tried to lose all the weight I gained from track. It makes me mad just thinking about it, because it highlights just how socially retarded I am. There are 3 weeks left in my 3rd year, and I'm not sure if that is enough time to infiltrate an existing social circle and meet girls or people in general. I'm not sure where to go from here, I know I haven't completely dedicated myself to this cause (pick up). If I was completely dedicated for a significant amount of time, and still had no success, then I'd give up. However, that's not been the case. My situation is that I'm not trying hard enough. Reading over my journal, it feels like a waste of space on this site but it really does help me put things into perspective and visualize what I need to do, so I'm going to keep writing in it.

Author:	AFC Spinner [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:55 pm ]
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Quote: If you're approaching girls on the street talk to them with your back turned looking over your shoulder. It communicates attraction without saying anything. That's good advice, it reminds me of something I read in the game. Quote: You can do it man! Pretty soon you'll materialize some relationships out of thin air. And, I know this is easier to say, but try not to compete with the girl. It's not a race, right? Thanks man I needed to hear that. And you're right, it really isn't a race and I hope I can change my mindset accordingly.

Author:	AFC Spinner [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:08 pm ]
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Official Day 1: Rejection Isn't So Bad At the first bar: 8:00pm Girl 1 (HB6) - I asked about her bar crawl shirt and realized I knew her (she was a grade above me in high school). Me: I didn't recognize you at first, you're Girl 1 right (I only said her first name) Her: Yes! And you're AFC Spinner! (she said my first and last name) Me: Made fun of her for being a potential stalker on account of knowing my full name Her: Haha I know that was kinda creepy...it's good to see you tho! Me: You too blah blah Her: Blah blah She said she liked my glasses and I told her to try them on. I laughed when she did. She asked how she looked and I said "usually dark rimmed glasses make girls look like a naughty librarian off the bat, but they just make you look like you spend a lot of time in the library." I said this with a smile and she laughed a lot. We talked about mutual friends and laughed about this kid we know who only posts depressing ass facebook statuses Played 5 lies game, she lost but said she was too poor to buy me a drink. Told her that I was going to go back with my friend and she said she’d be back around to see me if her group didn't leave soon. (group left shortly thereafter) Her best quotes were “haha you are so funny!”, “you have always been one of my favorites!”- the seconds quote is funny to me because this is the first time I’ve talked to her Bartender (HB7)- She had a slushie from Speedway, I asked if she mixed a bunch of flavors together like I do. She laughed and said she mixed blue raspberry with cherry and I said “ohh that’s called a cat in the hat where I'm from (smiling)” she laughed at this. I asked if being a bartender made her a skilled slushie mixer and she said “haha yes I make sure it’s the optimum mix of flavors”. This conversation is extremely lame upon reflection but I was going to open as many people as possible. Engineering Girl (HB 7)- approached with a tap on the shoulder? Idk why I tapped her, but I know that put her on her guard/turned her off immediately. I asked what her shirt said and what the bar crawl was for. She gave me short answers like Me:whats the occasion? Her: it’s a bar crawl Me: right, but for what group? Her: engineering Me: oh you’re an engineering major? You must be really smart, probably high maintenance too. Her: yeah Me:I’m taking one engineering class right now, it’s really hard, I don’t know how you do it. Her: yeah it’s hard… I ejected after this Surprisingly her extreme disinterest didn't phase me. Went to another bar At this point I was well past the whole "doing this sober" effort. I had been drinking since 6 and it was now 10:30 and I was pretty drunk. Sign Girl (HB 7)- Girl was on the dance floor holding a sign that said “I see what you did there”, with an arrow pointing to the left. Like a big sign. It didn't make sense to me but made for an easy opener. I opened her asking what the sign meant and I don’t remember her explanation. I tried to transition her to the bar by making her lose the 5 lies game but she said she was a bad liar haha. I took this for disinterest. I definitely rushed the interaction. I ejected and went back to sit with my friends for a bit. Nicki HB8- She came up next to me at the bar to order a drink. She gave me a good vibe off the bat. Me: What drink are you about to get? Her: I'm not sure...what's a good shot? Me: Try a kamikaze, they are pretty good here. Her: Ok let me ask my friend. Me: My name is AFC Spinner by the way (smiling) Her: My name is Nicki (smiling) I introduced myself to her friend and they said we should all take a shot together. I told them sure but I was only buying one for me and they looked disappointed but maintained the good vibe. She said she was going to go dance and I told her I was going to hang by the bar for a while. Note: My friend and his girlfriend were really drunk. He knows im out of a LTR and he wants to see me have success with a girl. Early in the night he was fine but as he got more drunk he kind of put pressure on me to do more and his girlfriend was literally trying to drag me to the dance floor (she was drunk too) to dance with her and other girls. Well, I really didn’t want to dance and I kind of wanted to take a break from opening sets as it was getting exhausting. She was making a scene pulling on me to dance and I felt like it made me look like a bitch for not dancing but I really wasn't in the mood. HB 7.5- Girl was a few stools away from me at the bar. It looked like she had a water and I said “you’re already onto water? Its only 10:30 (smiling). Bad opener in retrospect. She said it was vodka and soda and looked away. Haha, no big deal on to the next one. Later in the night I finally danced with my friends gf (he was cool with this otherwise I was very clear that I wouldn’t want to). We ran into Sign Girl and she still had the sign and came and held it by me while I danced. I rememdered her name and she liked that but I ignored her and danced with my friends gf. While dancing, I ran into Nicki and started dancing with her. We chatted for a bit and I told her that we might be leaving the bar soon and asked where she was gonna end up. She told me she was planning on going to a different bar in a little bit and I handed her my phone and said put your number in here and I’ll text you later. She put her number in my phone and I left the dance floor (I didn’t know what to do after this), and headed to the bar for a break. ^I wish I could give a better play by play of the number close, I said more than I can remember though. Shy Girl HB6- Asked her about her shirt and what group she was barcrawling with (there were like 6 different bar crawls going on at the time). She was either drunk or shy as hell but we got a shot together. I bought mine and she bought hers. I got a weird vibe from her so I said ejected after we took a shot. She wasn’t interested at all. Last girl HB 6- Asked about shirt etc...she seemed interested but I was exhausted mentally at this point. Most people out that night were education majors of some kind and were celebrating having just taken their teachers certification exam or some such test. I think I actually shook this girls hand after I introduced myself, let her tell me what she was doing teaching wise etc… and ejected. We left the bar after this. Damn that was a lot of writing. I was mentally drained from going so far out of my comfort zone. I really don't care about my batting percentage right now, and my AA definitely subsided after the first few approaches. Last night I didn't set a goal. I just wanted to open a lot of sets and come up with situational openers. I would deem it a successful night from the standpoint of putting myself out there. I have so much to work on it's overwhelming at the moment. Still happy I #closed that girl, she was a light skinned black girl and those are my favorite (I'm white btw). I might go out today where there are a lot of people and just sit and brainstorm/jot down situation openers I'd use on the various sets. I think this is an exercise recommended by kasabi.

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