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Author:  Eighty8 [ Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:54 am ]
Post subject:  Tell me where I went wrong

Hey Brado here,
Quick info, I'm a complete newbie on strategic sarging, and just had my eyes opened like most others by Neil Strauss' "The Game", now succeeding is an interaction I had with a bartender last night, which started well, but then somewhere went sour, if you can give me advice I will greatly appreciate it. Plus it is also very detailed, so if in the future I should use less detail please let me know that as well.

Last night I was in a bar in Cambodia during happy hour, with a group of 9. One of the travelling western bartenders comes up to our table and tries to sell us on some sort of party cruise they were having on the weekend, so being a salesman myself I decide to play a bit of cocky funny with her, and tease her on her awkward opening, and the way she felt nervous coming up to us. But then, explain to her seriously that no one was going to buy from her today, but we were all going to buy tomorrow, so if she just gave me her number I'd make sure to buy from her. Unsure if i was flirting or just going to buy, she blushed and scribbled her details down on a flyer. Then i asked her to leave us, so my friends and I could drink. Later in the night I am at the bar ordering a drink, while talking to a friend when she pops up behind me, and interrupts my conversation to start asking me questions, like where I'm from and how long Im travelling for. Politely I say hold on a minute, then finish my conversation with my friend. Which point I turn back around, and she asks me again, I answered, but then said, if we are going to talk can we at least have a less mundane discussion. So I pose the question, "If you could have any talent in the world, what would it be?" she laughs and says something about speaking every language, I then smile and say I like that answer, I've never heard it before. (as if i pull these moves all the time, is that good or not, thoughts? As well as the question?) After I say mine is boring but simple, to be able to sing (thats true, but I need a better answer for that, so thoughts on that as well?). My next question is then, "so if that is what you want, what do you have, what is your favourite possessed talent?" She says she is creative, but doesn't use it for anything. I say I could look at someone, and know them in an instant, see the truth about them. She laughs intrigued, So I grab her hand (forgetting to check if she squeezed back, IOI) and tell her she is very self-conscious, though confident on the inside. I tell her she is aspiring, but socially shy (like everyone in the goddamn world!!). She then blushes and starts getting excited asking me how I knew that. So i pull out some bull, like she is always occupying her hands, she looks impressed and then blushes again. She then grabs the seat next to me and orders us a few drinks on the house, we talk for a couple minutes more where she tries to understand me, but only says that her first impression is that I'm confident (thats good I suppose?), until she asks me again to show off my skill, by reading someone else, would-be-luckily she puts too a friend of mine and explains to him what I was gong to do, so I bullshit again, but my idiot of a friend says thats not true, not understanding his place. Anyways we go back to talking and she gets me a few more drinks, until I had to use the toilet. I then returned and whilst taking felt the fire gone. Now where did I go wrong, she I have asked her to go somewhere quiet just after i impressed her? She I have dismissed her again at some point, or flirted with someone else? Asked her to kiss? Though remember she was at work, or is there something else I missed? Please give me your opinions.

Author:  jacklei [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:06 am ]
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obviously the friend who ruined the trick was a bum, and the tables could have turned then and there to make your prediction NOT look untrue at that moment (i mean some damage repair tactics)

Doing some of these things would have built rapport, (i dont know if you did them though) --
1) Kino escalation (Palm reading, ring routine etc)
2) Teasing a little bit to have cocky funny, non-needy interactoin
3) Push and Pull compliments. (u give a compliment and immediately take it away) eg. you look prettier today .. (then after her response, take it away by -->) And you know what they say about pretty girls, they have small brains :D
4) Social Proof -- she HAS to realize that you got your own life set up and even the most beautiful girl would not distract you from your goals.. You may DESIRE them, but you DON'T NEED them.

If she feels you have social proof + abundance + cocky-funny vibe... she would not have any reason to get off the hook, unless you release her from the hook.

Next, i think preparing some better answer for your own talent (other than singing) could prove helpful, relating some DHV story with it. Make sure you feel the story while telling it, coz those reality vibes make them seem real, even if they are not. lol

While you are sitting there, you should constantly have your CALIBERATE-AND-ESCALATE radars onnnn... !! it helps a lottt...
-- Jack

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