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| Author: | applesauce22 [ Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Coffee date, opinions please |
So I originally got this girls contact info last week, it was pretty random i just complimented her on her coat and found myself in a set. Asked her to hangout she had mentioned earlier she lost her phone so I got her email. Fast forward to today, I showed up to the place and she was already waiting there. Long brown haired HB8. So i sit down and we start chatting. I know this was a bad venue now, we were in interveiw mode pretty much, too much rapport and i could harldy escalate kino from across the table, though when she complained about how she burnt her chest tanning i was able to place the back of my hand on it to feel how hot it was (not making a big deal but it was something). Anyways, more talking, im making her laugh while holding good eye contact but i cant stand this idle chit chat. At one point she spontaneously mentions how surprised she was that she just met me at the library and how brave i was asking her out (taking this as a compliment). I respond by saying im just a social person and i think she was cute and wanted to get to know her. I then suggest we go for a walk after we finished our coffee. As were walking im finally able to build kino, just putting my hand on her shoulder but better then before. She keeps wanting to know what im doing the rest of the evening (fuck huge mistake i shouldve planned this out more), i suggest we play darts but the bar was back the way we came. This walk were on turns into walking her home, strange thing is she lost track of were she lived, dont know what to make of that one. We hug and i suggest we hang out this weekend, she said shes going home which is an hour drive from this city. So we agree to keep in touch and figure out another time during exams. Ok im gonna point out my cons: -Bad venue, interveiw mode. Too much rapport -Wasnt able to build attraction, still dont know how to do this. -No K close, then again i didnt feel any indicators that she wanted a kiss so i didnt look like a dork going in for one. Pros: -Got her laughing -Strong eye contact during conversation -Didnt feel like she was totally bored with me. Keep in mind this is my first real date with PUA method i still fell way short of what i wanted, but considering how bad my method was atleast i didnt get a big fuck you from her. Any advice guys? |
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| Author: | doclift [ Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:06 am ] |
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For your first "day two" (dates are for women you're already sleeping with), it sounds like you did pretty well. Let's jump into some suggestions. Coffee shops make a fairly secure beginner's day two. Props on not taking her to dinner or a movie. You were able to talk and as long as you can do that, you're golden. Your mistake in that particular venue, was that it sounds like you chose to sit at a table. The benefit to coffee houses is that they have a homey feel to them. From here on out, sit on a couch or in lounge chairs that are relatively facing each other. This will allow you to sit more comfortably, maintain eye contact, and will make kino escalation far easier. It also allows you to easily freeze her out if the circumstances deem so. As you progress in the game, you'll start to get the hang of day two's and will adapt small habits. I suggest thinking of a few more places that are out of the ordinary (art museums, tea gardens, mini golf, etc). It's crucial that you check the place out before she gets there. Also, the protocol is to have her meet you at your house prior to going wherever. This allows her to get comfortable with your place and enables you to run some home game. A clean home that's nicely decorated is a huge DHV. Give her the tour and then you drive the two of you to the venue. This also provides a valuable reason for her to come home with you after the outing (she has to get her car doesn't she lol). Always always always always always plan to have sex with her at the end of day two. Did I stress this enough? If she showed up for a day two, then the attraction is already there. The next step after comfort is seduction. It's equally important to kiss her prior to the end of interaction. This has to be the most common mistake guys make when they start off in this. Kiss the girl. The earlier, the better. Fight off the friend zone before it's even a possibility. A kiss during a day two gets her emotionally invested in the interaction and clearly demonstrates that you're sexually attracted to her. Get some IOIs, escalate kino, and then kiss her. If you take control of the situation, she'll follow suit. This should ideally happen in the middle of the day two. If you kissed her on day one, then you open day two with a kiss when you greet her. There is no excuse for not kissing her during your walk. If she's there, smiling, and laughing... then she's begging for a kiss. Hell, she probably wanted it more than you did. When you don't kiss a girl by the 4 hour mark you begin to do damage. She walks away from the situation either thinking that you're not attracted to her or thinking that you lacked the confidence to go for it. Since the thought of not being attractive is painful, many women will instead backwards rationalize it and conclude that the kiss didn't happen because she wasn't into you. This is a death sentence. Kiss the girl. When you plan a day three, never be vague. "Let's hang out sometime" is something PUAs say to a girl who the plan on never seeing again. Be specific. "I'm going to (this place) on (this day), come with." If she logistically can't then give her room to invite you to do something. Tell her that if you don't see her soon, she runs the risk of you winning the lottery between now and then and skipping town on your yacht. It's silly but gets the point across. You should be able to pull this together. Run some solid text game and remember that the phone is a tool whose primary purpose is to bridge the gap between time together. Be fun and charismatic and you'll be alright. |
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| Author: | Telemachus2112 [ Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:15 pm ] |
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Great advice, doclift. Well said. |
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