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| Author: | Bond-007 [ Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | It`s a new life for me, and I`m feeling good. |
This is a new journal I do. Why is that? Simply couse in other users words, I practically learned shit from my last one, and from my last years experiences. So this is a new way of facing life, a fresh start and a real one. My journey to become a real man, one that understands himself and lives his life fulfilling his desires. So let me begin with my last saturday night: 3/3/2012 The day was smooth, I went out surfing with my best friends, they kinda bringed me down discussing about why I didnt wanted to go to Punta del Este, best place for tourists my country has; but they were actually mad about some fights they both had with their girlfriends. So I just looked away and tolerated their attacks. The night is interesting, I drank a few beers with one of them and a friend of his, and right after we got into the dance club. The place is nice, lights and music are suited for a smooth pick up. I grab some girls hands but they wont agreed, so I opened a girl at the bar with something like: we are all over you and your friends (couse we were waiting for another beer coming). She laughed, said "I`ve noticed" and then we got are glases full and ejected. I had already opened, a poor opener with a poor reaction, but an opening and that counts. I`m in the mood with my friends, dancing and laughing, enjoying the place, when one of my friends points out one girl he knows, she smiles to him as if they were very close, and that smile really attracted me. Shes holding a champagne glass in her hand, Im holding my beer, so I see her approaching, my friend introduces us and I high five her. This is what surprises me, when she touches my hand, she actually grabs it as if staying for a bit too long. I`m smiling, she`s doing the same, I like her. We exchange drinks couse I asked her what she was having, Baileys turns out, I offer her my beer and we have a sip. Later that night she goes dancing with her friends, a really cool attitude dancing and enjoying herself. Long story short: she caught my eyes. Rest of the evening went boring, we went to outside, in a park we are heading to smoke some weed (wich I have to quit when picking up couse it brings me down everytime I smoke that shit, makes me wanna go to sleep ASAP). When we are heading to a bench, two girls are talking and we walk next to them while I was saying: we can`t sit here, place is a mess ( someone had vomited next somewhere near to the girls); so one of them says to us: well, hold on there. You can sit next to us. My reply was: well, are you going to make some room for us? She moves a bit and we start talking. This girl was all over my friend, a bit ugly but with a great character. The other girl was beautifull, but ended up dancing and kissing with my friends friend Last monday I asked my friend for that girl`s facebook; the one that caught my eyes. She immediately accepted me and started a convo. I was kinda in a hurry, never spected her to reply so fast, so we talked about music and she said to me she was very random all the time, also funny, and I could keep up with her. Tonight I started the convo, told her straight I was interested in her, that I was curious about her, and that if she was interested too we could meet this weekend and get to know each other a bit more over some drinks. Right after I asked her: too straight? Her reply: not at all, and yes, I`m free this weekend so drinks sounds great. Observations: I`m already having some illusion with this girl and I know that`s the wrong approach to do. So far I`m doing alright, but my ego wants to be exceptional, and that`s when I start to fuck things over. If allowed, I really want to know this girl and bring her into my life; share things with her, and all that just by high fiving her. How can I eliminate my connection with this feeling of fucking things up? How can I stay cool and understand, while going out with her, that this is only a great opportunity to practice my weak points like kino and sexual scalation? Thanks for reading. |
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| Author: | msqto242 [ Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:09 am ] |
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Quote: Right after I asked her: too straight?
Idk about asking that. I don't see anything too wrong with the straightforward approach, but I don't like asking 'too straight.' Feels a bit approval seeking.Quote: How can I eliminate my connection with this feeling of fucking things up? How can I stay cool and understand, while going out with her, that this is only a great opportunity to practice my weak points like kino and sexual scalation?
Seems to me that you're very interested in this girl -- and there's nothing wrong with that. The key is just to remember that there are other girls out there and that if things don't end well with her, it's not the end of the world. There will always be another girl. So have fun with it and don't stress.
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| Author: | kasabi [ Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It`s a new life for me, and I`m feeling good. |
You wrote that you'd like to be the 'beach girl's' boyfriend. You like her, you find her attractive, and you want to go out with her. Now you also like this girl from the club. You find her attractive, and you want to go out with her as well. So this is your trial. You need to convince these girls to go out with you. Here is the 'case' you made to the beach girl: Statement: Go to the beach with me. Reason: 1. I never saw you in a bikini. 2. I deserve to see you in the beach. 3. I am easy on the ears. (By the way, reading this stuff made my eyes hurt) Assumptions: 1. If you tell somebody that you never did something them, they will do it with you. 2. Everybody knows that everybody gets what they deserve. 3. Girls are attracted to mutes? Give me your thoughts. . . did you offer a convincing case? Would YOU go to the beach with YOU? Let's take a look at your next case. Statement: Quote: if she was interested too we could meet this weekend and get to know each other a bit more over some drinks.
Reason:Quote: told her straight I was interested in her, that I was curious about her
EVIDENCE!:You asked to get her facebook. You spoke about music with her. You conversed with her. (This is what people who like other people do with each other)Assumptions: People who like one another and demonstrate it by enjoying a conversation together are likely to continue and build upon this interaction. For which case did you follow a better trial procedure? For which case did you make a better argument? For which case did you provide EVIDENCE for your statements? You seem to continue to think that 'over thinking' is messing you up but it has nothing to do with that. Regardless of how you perceive it, you MUST have more respect for the power of words and how you present them. For God sakes, you're studying to be a lawyer! Quote: How can I stay cool and understand, while going out with her, that this is only a great opportunity to practice my weak points like kino and sexual scalation?
Wrong, this is not only a great opportunity to practice. . . This is a great opportunity to go out with a girl who might turn out to be your girlfriend! Can you understand the level of disconnect you have with your environment? What would you tell a guy who tells you that he got into surfing because he enjoys waxing his board? (Sure, it's a part of surfing but isn't he missing the big picture?) 1. Start/continue to engage deeper into all that is around you. 2. Practice your game. (Not with others but on your own. . . ) Learn to get creative with openers. Figure out a few routines of your own; how to get numbers, how to kino, etc . . . Think about things on your own so that when you are with a girl, you won't have to think . . . you'll just "DO" . . . |
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| Author: | Bond-007 [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:04 am ] |
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Done. Just talked with both girls via facebook. I invited the beach girl to a park and she answers she loves that place, this friday she can`t, but the next one is a big yes. The other girl agreed seeing us this saturday if she can`t go to the beach with her friends, couse those plans were already made, if not I`ll probably see her next sunday. I asked her to come to my city on saturday, get some drinks alone and then go out dacing where we can meet our mutual friends and some others. Now kasabi, correct me if I`m wrong, but I`m starting to think you are being a bit too harsh and that seems to be the way you express yourself. Maybe it`s just my ego defending itself, but you are pointing out some things that have a background. The beach girl was my friend for a whole year, in wich I made some jokes like asking her to marry me a lot of times and shit like that. That doesn`t justify the lame opener I used, but then again, I was bored on a sunday afternoon and the result for now is going the both of us to that park and getting inside attractions untill we both feel sick. All of the above can be easily disregarded, but please don`t make the art of pick up something comparable to law. You simply can`t, I study law; so what? I feel there are a lot more carreers that help even more the pick up than law does, so I don`t see how this could be relevant. I`m here for one thing only: to lear to have human relationships, to connect with others in a way I never did before. My carreer doesn`t teach me that. Thanks. |
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| Author: | kasabi [ Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:40 pm ] |
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Quote: The beach girl was my friend for a whole year, in wich I made some jokes like asking her to marry me a lot of times and shit like that. That doesn`t justify the lame opener I used, but then again, I was bored on a sunday afternoon and the result for now is going the both of us to that park and getting inside attractions untill we both feel sick.
Get out of the habit of making excuses for yourself. (You are imagining things that have nothing to do with the conversation.) If you are thinking about the conversation, then think about the conversation. If you are thinking about the interaction, then think about the interaction. Whether you knew her for a year or you were bored on a weekend has NOTHING to do with putting words together in a confusing, non-engaging manner. Stick to the issue (what to say, how to say it, how to behave), figure out how to improve it, then do it. Quote: All of the above can be easily disregarded, but please don`t make the art of pick up something comparable to law. You simply can`t, I study law; so what?
I thought that perhaps logic and the 'trial method' could be your way into understanding the communication process. If you were studying math, I would have used math references. If you were an athlete, I would have used sports references. If you were a musician, I would have used music references. Regardless of how you tend to learn, it would suit you to find your EASY WAY IN to understanding the communication process. Quote: I`m here for one thing only: to lear to have human relationships, to connect with others in a way I never did before.
I'm not sure what type of law you are studying but if you cannot effectively communicate your intentions, offer reasons, evidence, and convince others of your point of view, you won't do well with either human relationships or any kind of 'people related' profession. Learning to genuinely engage others will benefit many facets of your life.
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| Author: | Dros [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:57 am ] |
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It's good to see that you've been following Kasabi's advice. Your interaction with the beach girl sounds good to me, so I think you only need to adjust a few things in order to achieve success. Also you've got an A+ coach so you're ready to win! |
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| Author: | Bond-007 [ Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:42 pm ] |
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10/3/2012 I have already went out the night before, so I`m not really that motivated. Still I have some friends comming over to have some drinks before we hit the venue. As you can see, I`m posting a lot of nightgame field reports, thou it`s getting a bit boring, it`s a lot of the interactions I have with women. So I`m fresh from a nap I took at 21:00 pm since I was tired of going out surfing, and had a nice meal to be full of energy to enjoy the venue. My first friend arrives at 00:30 and we go to a stripclub at one block from my apartment. The place is a mess, chicks won`t dance nor talk to us, a few other guys enter, have a beer same as us, and get the hell out of there. The night is really hot, I understand the girls not wanting to move a lot. Two girls engage us after those guys heading off, I ask the name and age of the one that is talking to me, she asks me to buy her a drink. I don`t go for that test, and ask her where does she study. Right after that she invites me to go up, I say to her we are heading our way to a nightclub, and thank her. We are out and meet the others. I bring a scotch from my place and start drinking at a park. After getting a bit in the mood, the first friend who arrived to my place decided to throw ice at my head from real near. I got mad and it wasn`t good for the night, this asshole thinks that`s a good thing to do, a bit neanderthal. After that chapter we get inside the club. I start talking to women. A lot dances with me, some say no, I`m having a good time and it`s reflecting on my face. First approach is with a wing, a 2 set and one of the guys have already pulled a girl; I go and take the other one hand. We start dancing. I ask for her name, tell her mine and ask her if she takes salsa lessons: this girl have some moves. She laughs and says she don`t, she looks around and I ask her if her friend is gone. She says noup, and asks me if I want to stop dancing, I say to her that I`m ejoying that dance, I only asked couse I saw her wondering around. After a while dancing I kiss her on the cheek goodbye and move on. I didn`t close her in any way, but I`m getting started, building momentum. I`m going to skip to the part where the same situation presents, 2 girls and my friend taking one for a dance, when the other girl seems reluctant to dance. So I started talking: Hi there! I promise you that you won`t even notice it. Notice what? She says. My friend there gaming your girl, and since I`m such a cool guy you won`t even notice it. She laughs, I`m in. Now she`s dancing with me, this girl likes to talk with guys before she does anything or so it seems. I ask some silly questions I don`t remember, she didn`t say a thing when I asked her name, and that was fine with me, I thought she maybe was there to k- close guys. But since we got chatty, she says to me: The name`s Fiorela. Oh, hi Fio! Mine`s Martin. You see, I feel we are making some progress here lady, now we know each other! Keeps laughing and I know this is a good time to do something. As usual I forgot about kino besides dancing with her really near, so a kiss is not a go right now. Why not use words? Actually: the kiss close routine of mystery (every rights reserved for the man or the creator). Excuse me. Do you want to kiss me? No, she says. I`m drunk but that wasn`t on my mind. At this point she`s using a weird face, like being sarcastic. She`s lying and showing it to me. Before all of you asks; I didn`t capitalize on it. I laughed, replyied: oh, not that drunk? She laughs back and I tell her I`m leaving. That she should give me a link to her facebook and we can continue over there. She agrees, adds a last name to the one she gave me, and I`m taking my time before adding her. We have a mutual friend, a co worker lady I have. Sticky points: I keep focusing so much in words in the wrong way, if kasabi is right, is not talking to a girl the wrong thing to do at a danceclub, it`s the kind of lame questions I`m asking. But since I was in such a good mood and my body was reflecting it, she was very open to me. Conclusions: -Now I know from my own experience that it`s not what you say, but rather HOW you say it. And I`m loving it. - I have to learn some dance moves before going out next time, I feel like I can bring so much game but my lack of knowledge is limiting myself. - Gotta be more open at building momentum, more girls being talked to by this user, and trying to close every single one of them, as if they were the last girls I will ever meet. Thanks for reading, next time I think it`s going to be a daygame update. Bond. |
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| Author: | Bond-007 [ Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:27 pm ] |
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14/3/2012 It took me a while to write this, but I`m thinking about a proper way of telling you guys how I did while also getting something in return by reading me. I don`t want to write anymore showing off, or simply describing things as they were; now I`m here to get something clean out of this journal and if I`m lucky sharing some wisedom with you too. So I decided to go out with this girl I previously layed a while back. Turns out last monday was her birthday and I didn`d knew it, so she told me she was mad. I take her to a nice place for coffee and sandwiches, and we start talking a lot about the whole summer, since we didn`t saw each other for like 3 months. While she`s talking about her last relationship and how they broke up, and that she had in mind being my gf, I started noticing her ego and my own. Girls have a crazy way of making my ego burst, but now that I noticed it, I could tell the difference and be humble. I asked her nicely to drop the acting, I wanted to talk to the real Flavia now. She couldn`t. Here comes a major conclusion: we are so attached to our egos that it`s hard to imagine us talking to each other without the egos taking control. As I was asking deeper questions, it was a bit boring the whole ego act, who has more power over the other, she wanted to control me. Kind of a control freak. I told her that she lacks experience and that she has good technique, but in order to have real control you need to be flexible. It felt GOOD to be the one asking the other to drop the ego, but that might be my own ego thinking it`s wiser now. Thing is, the power game is now looking boring to me; it really doesn`t give that much of a result. While talking I use some sexual phrases like: what`s that? You`d love to have sex with me? Ok. And she asking me: what? I don`t want to have sex with you. Her eyes are giving her away, still I toke her to a hotel door and she wouldn`t get in. That was interesting, last time we slept it was the other way around, she was the one dragging me inside the hotel. So we end up in a park, kissing and touching each other, she asking me to give her a relationship. Me telling her that I`m not so sure about life anymore, I don`t know if tomorrow I`d live to see another day, and that she shouldn`t plan such ahead in the future. We have trust issues, she slept with me while being with another guy in a relationship, and I`m the kind of guy who goes out with his friends every single weekend. Questions: Is this really my ego taking a huge control over me, or is it just that I`m finally starting to drop it? Is it a waste of time seeing with a girl who always has some excuse in order to explain why she wont sleep with me without having a full relationship? Even thou she already did. I feel like there are a lot of steps in order to become an attractive man yet, in kasabi`s words: what I think is attractive is a girls repelent. How can I learn to give those steps? Bond. |
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| Author: | Bond-007 [ Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:37 am ] |
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24/3/2012 I haven`t seen my friends in a while, so we decided to do some more surfing in the afternoon and then going out. The night started late, we have a few drinks at 2:30 am and entered the club at 3:00. One of the guys goes home before entering, we might be messing up entering the club if we are in the same mood that he does. We still get inside. The music is good as usual, this place is called "UP" and it`s the club that intimidates me a bit, simply becouse the women in there are the kind I`d like to get in a relationship with, you know, fashion and have a sense of style I do like a lot. Also they are wealthy and they show so, it`s an expensive place to go, and when I think about it, doesn`t give me that much of good nights of sarging. So I open a set, I see clearly a pattern here. None of my friend likes to enter the set; I ask `em if they would like to approach some girls and they responde: go ahead, I follow. So I`m the one taking the bullets, no problem. I can manage to gather the balls. Like I was saying, I enter the set of 2 girls, grab one of the girls hand and say to her: let`s dance, with a smile on my face. She says she`s with her friend, but on the other hand, she`s not letting go of my hand. I know she wants me to dance and talk to her. No problem. I reply. She can dance with my friend, Gian =) When I look behind me, my best friend is looking from a distance, lots of ppl passing by between the set and me, and my friend. And worst thing is that he`s not even trying to get near when I send the signal. I stand like an asshole and say to the girl, give me a minute, he will come here and I`ll introduce you one another. She laughs, I know I lost my chances. I eject. That`s my first step in the venue. A bit of a bring down. Aproach anxiety is inside me once again, I can`t talk to the girls as easily as I`ve been doing lately. Still there are some other opportunities to act on. Honestly I`m beginning to get inside my own head now, and we all know what happens after doing so. The other sets I approach simply wont accept me, I get rejected for trying in such a mood. You couldn`t say you didn`t saw that one comming. A few questions pop up in my mind, and are the kind of questions I don`t think are so irrelevant, or at least that may be helpfull for a future to come. But then again, the best place to ask these questions is not a dancefloor. Some of the mentioned are: What am I doing here? Am I enjoying this night as much as I imagined before? Does all of my friends are having a good time? What are we sharing with each other? Do I have to do this? Is this the right mindset to go out with your fellas and say you did had one hell of a weekend? As you can see, this is way too inside of my head, so after that I knew I was going home alone. Conclusions: It`s been a while since I asked myself those questions, and the more I do go out with no purpose, meaningless night outs, the more I realize I have to stop doing those things. Or at least shift the mindset I`m used to. I`m not really there to pick up, who am I fooling beside me? I`m no PUA nor I feel I want to be. This is a major insight that it`s growing inside me: I don`t think this pick up stuff is the right thing for me. I might be delusional, but after 3 years of going out and getting no results are giving me the answer that, if I`d trully wanted it, I`d have it by now. It`s not a fever, the importance I gave to reading these arts it was clearly a mistake, if I can`t get results by my own now thats becouse most of the time I don`t feel like it. The kiss closes have less importance, and by having so little meaning makes me wonder what am I doing there? They really are so meaningless? Or am I holding back untill I find one person who actually deserves one of those? I guess that, at the end of the day or my day at least, the kisses that matter the most are those I`m not giving. Thought there was something wrong with me, might be a pathology, but now the approach is a bit different. Perhaps I`m not doing the things I naturally want to do in order to connect with others, and therefore being the best man I can be. I`ve decided not to go out for a while, a long while, and get my shit together. Starting therapy with a psychologist and understand those feelings that rule me in my subconcious mind. Untill the next time, maybe a long later one. Thanks. Bond. |
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| Author: | Bond-007 [ Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:45 pm ] |
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Hi therereaders! And future me. If you are reading this it`s because you`ve felt the need to express something outta your system so remember that feeling. It`s healthy. 7/7/2012 I woke up at 3 p.m. Last night was exhausting; my best friend`s birthday took all of us an effort and energy to make the best out of the party. He calls me, we talk about the other night and he says that has 2 girls waiting for us at a park. "Excellent" I reply, let`s go. He comes pick me up and we head off. Turns out there are these chicks with such a casual look I can relax with. They are chilling at a park sharing some cookies and having a good time with extrangers. We start talking about things we like and don`t, I notice myself being a cool relaxed guy, a strange feeling around women since I`m used to tense up. Maybe is because I`m not into any of the girls. All of a sudden comes up the subject of getting together at night to have some pizzas our other best friend does, and we invite the girls. They say yes, so we take em home and pick em up later, after they changed clothes. One of the girls shocked me, she was totally a hottie after putting some make up and wearing a skirt. I noticed how my feelings changed about her, this wasn`t the same relaxed Bond I was in the afternoon. The thing I`ve learned yesterday was that it doesn`t matter how hot the girls look on the venue; makeup was designed just for that reason. To make girls look like they are hot when, after the night passes, when we are natural, they are all humans. To me this is an insight, a principle, that can help me stop putting pussys in a pedestal. They are the same as me, the same as the next guy. Nothing special about clothes and makeup. We`ve had some pizza, it was really good, and the headed to the venue. My friend the one that made dinner entered the bar with both girls, the other guys didn`t. I headed home, wasn`t in the mood for entering a club. Actually after all this time I haven`t learned how to love the clubs or having a really good time there. Only happens if I`m drunk and that`s not the point of going out for me. Still haven`t find my answers, this should be rooted inside me in some place I still can`t reach, but something tells me that being the relaxed guy I was in the afternoon is the right call to make. That`s all PUA is about, being chill and getting girls to do the same activities you do, it`s about sharing with the other person and connecting your interests in life. |
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| Author: | Bond-007 [ Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:11 pm ] |
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13/ 10/ 1012 It`s been a while, but last night I felt the urge to sit down a few minutes and write this stuff down and sharing with the forum. Here`s the deal: when I study for an exam I don`t go out, I sit my ass all day and read untill my hair pops outta my head. So I recently approved one of this tests, wich means I haven`t went out dancing for a while ( a month or so). It was such a nice sunny day I decided I should go out that night, it`ll be worm and fun so tonight is the night. Got a phone call from a friend having his birthday dinner at a bar, asking me to join and I said yes. This part was boring so I wont write much about it, just a nice meal with a few guys I enjoy spending time with from time to time. So I texted a lot of friends, a lot of them were falking, already had plans, until one said we could do something, that he`s in for a night out. Perfect. I knew it was going to be him and me, no problem at all with that, I felt confident being just two guys in the dancefloor. So all starts at his place, he has two beers, I`m in with a bottle of vodka and sprite, we start drinking and talking. All of a sudden, this guy starts talking me about PUA concepts that he studyied in his carrer, fitness professor. And I said to him: whoooa! Stop there. Where the fuck have you learned this things? My friend starts talking to me about personality, how some personas communicate with each other and why there is chemistry between some ppl. Very enlightning. This guy is always shut, like he won`t tell you what`s on his mind, but yesterday was more open. I told him I had some issues with my character interacting with girls; that I`m that way too cocky guy who ends up being a jerk. Basically that I don`t know how to be humble. So this guy asks me a very important question: what do you have to be such a dick? Do you own a sport car? Do you have a dream job? Do you own a nice apartment? To all of wich I answered: no, I don`t. It kinda hit me, this guy`s right; since when I`m such a high price for women? Now this doesn`t mean I should put women on a pedestal, we are equal; but doesn`t mean I should treat em like shit either. Now I`m aware enough to accept I do this because I`m intimidated by girls, this is the shape of my anxiety, if she tests me I spit her some cruel words, and this is WRONG. Let`s place ourselves in the night club. I`m drunk by now, and still drinking. This was my plan, I`m really having fun being this drunk since I haven`t had a beer for more then a month. When some girls come next to us, I try to grab one girls hand, she looks at me, lose the grip and keeps walking. Not a rejection face like: get out of here dude; but she won`t stay with me either. I have tryied this more than enough times to be aware that is leaving me with no results. Either I`m pulling girls in the wrong way, or this simply is not effective. I know some guys can pull like mad men, but for some reason I`m not that type. At least not at this moment. After moving from one place to another, a girl stops me and asks me if she knew me from somewhere. I asked her if she was a friend of my sister, since my sister is in the same place having her birthday. She told me she didn`t, but that she was also having her birthday (she had a nice hat on wich I pointed out and said I liked). I congratulated her and asked if she wanted me to kiss her for her birhtday. She told me ok, so I kissed both her cheecks, and asked if she wanted one in the mouth. She gave me an "I dont mind" expression, so I kissed her very poorly on the lips. We didn`t make out, simply out lips together for a second. After that I kept on asking girls to dance, but some were shy and I didn`t insist long enough. Conclussion: I know I can be the life of the party if I have a good night out, but the most important thing that`s keeping me up is this strange form of anxiety I developed over the years. It`s not approach anxiety, but rather that douchebag attitude towards girls I have whenever I feel threatened. Wich is most of the times if I`m interested in a girl. So far what I got is: If I like a girl and we are talking, I will be in any second a dick by saying something, just because I feel threatened by her beauty. This calls for a fix. |
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| Author: | Bond-007 [ Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:51 pm ] |
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15/ 10/ 2012 First date. It`s been a while since the last time. So I got in touch via facebook with some highschool friends, and I had the idea to re unite the whole group. I was talking about this with the girl Im interested in, and she agreed, awesome. Since she started talking to me a lot I thought the two of us could catch up before the meeting, and she agreed again. We met yesterday near the sea. It was a bit awkward since it has been almost 10 years since the last time we saw each other, but we were both there to get to know each other, and that`s the main reason why we could overcome the awkward silences. I tolde her I`m in law school, she told me she`s studying at the science school and working there, she`s specially engaged with the subject of cancer and I could tell she was passionate about it, so I asked her a lot about her passion. This made me realize I was getting a bit bored, I thought I should become a better conversationalist. That`s one of my conclussions; I gotta get better at talking to women. I can compare it this way: this girl is no hottie, I like her, she likes me, but I`m not that into her. This is becoming a problem right now, because I can`t find a girl who is good looking and interesting to me. But then again, I can`t be this judgy from the first date, so I`m deffinitely seeing her again. While engaging in the convo I push- pulled a bit and she went for it, a bit of a struggle of power. This is a very rigid girl, she has one goal in life and you can`t go against it. Bit of a control freak, those are the traits I find negative. What comes clear from that brief moment we interacted (almost two hours), I come to realize that she was getting comfortable with the light kino I applyied, getting more open to me and my thoughts, she`s in for a second date so I`m assuming that she must have some interest in me. But the downside is that, if this were the kind of girl I`m mad for, well groomed, dressed, not so much of a nerdy, I would have BORED THE SHIT OUTTA THE GIRL. My game must deffinitely suck, I can`t comform with having this girl, for the same reason I know this won`t last long, or I guess that won`t: this is because I`m not that into this chick. |
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| Author: | Bond-007 [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:35 pm ] |
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04/11/2012 I thought about making two FR for separate, because I had two going outs; but in a practical way I rather write this all together. This starts at 7 p.m., I`m just arriving from the beach wich I went with all my friends; I had to meet a lot of guys from highschool. It was a reunion. There she was, this girl I met 2 weeks ago alone, the one I`m trying to seduce. So I arrive, she gives me a hug wich we already planned via msn, and I laugh and tell her I`m a bit messy, with sand all over my body and such. She says it`s ok, I know it`s on. So for now it`s just the two of us, we go inside a bowling that has a lot of games and we start playing tejo. I lose the first one, she enjoys that, and assures me she`s gonna win again. So I told her that since she`s so sure of herself we should bet; if she loses must give me a kiss on the cheek, very near to my mouth. I won. Right after claming my price, I put my arm around her neck, claw style, and go for the k- close. Nailed it. We kept on changing games and kissing each other untill a friend comes to the place, we were merely 3 the whole evening. After playing a pool I head off to my place to prepare for the night. This would be chapter two: I met with one of my friends from the beach, we both ready to go to a nightclub. First we head to a really cool bar with hot chicks; my friend has a girl in other bar that`s texting him and he`s hoping to lay her. He wants me and another friend who just arrived to go with him. We agreed since the girl has 2 friends; basically turned out that the girl was testing my friend to see if he really wanted to lay her via text messege and that she couldn`t believe it; also that she had one friend and that girl has a boyfriend. Not much of a start. By now I made a few openers on girls, got a kiss on the cheek and not much. All superficial. Here comes the worst part; the three of us finally head to a nightclub, we got in, had a beer, and started sarging. Now I started pulling hands from girls who would reject me, talking to girls asking them if they were always this shy, and only getting some giggles for an answer and not engaging in a convo. This nightmare is rejection after rejection, simply because the best answer I got was from a girl who was really drunk and I wasn`t that into her. At 5 a.m. I realize I`m bored, nightclubs that reject me get me really bored, and this is something my ego has to handle; but what I`m saying is that I`m beggining to think that nightclubs are not the best place for me to meet women. Night game might not be suited for me, and the idea scares me. |
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| Author: | Bond-007 [ Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: It`s a new life for me, and I`m feeling good. |
January, 19th of 2013 I met this guy in my law school that found out about pua and he saw my name at one of the forums; he asked about it and we started going out sarging. Last night we went to do dancefloor game, and this time it was a really good night for me: I knew two different girls who were going to the same club and one of those girls was into me. My friend and I decided to smoke some weed at the front line and then enter the club, not our best idea. So we are having a beer, ppl keeps coming in so we are still relaxed. All of a sudden this girl that`s into me comes in my face and says hi to me. She has a very possitive attitude, I love that. I ask her to introduce her friends after I introduced mine, we follow her to her friends who were a total downer. One of those girls were texting and won`t even say hi to us ( I don`t waste time with girls who are rude, I would have sended her to fuck off if I weren`t interested in my girl), and the other is like a bit down, depressive, sitting on a chair. Not so good for my friend, I knew he was getting nothing from those two. So I eject from the set saying Im going for a beer to my girl. I head out with my buddy and have that beer. After I finish it I come back for the girl and isolated her from her group to dance. The interaction is good, I like how she dances and she seems to enjoy my stupid moves; so I start talking to her. I know a few stuff about her so I asked how did it went. After some good respondes and some spins I use the mystery move on asking if she were thinking about kissing me. She puts this playfull face and says: me? nah, I wasnt thinking about that. I say to her that must have been my imagination and spin her again. After a few minutes I told her that I liked her style, that I found her sweet. Now this is were I blew it. The girl stops and asks to me: sweet? Are you serious? With this ugly shame face that blow me out. I reacted badly and told her we would see each other in the venue. Thoughts after leaving her: I talk too much. Why the hell don`t I just fucking shut up? Then I meet with girl number 2; now this girl havent show any interest for me but she could be seduced, Im confident. So we meet at a bar, I was having a beer, she says hi to me and asks for the bartender for some whiskys. The interaction went cold, my friend was next to me, her friends were next to her; and I left the interaction die. Not even moved a finger. After that I did some approaches on the dancefloor and all 6 or 7 rejected my hand for a dance. While having those interactions I had a few conclusions that are good: Conclusions 1. I talk too much on a place were you are not supposed to, this makes you look bad, needy, not comfortable with the venue. 2. I`ve recognized I pretty much copy another friend`s style of pick up; since I watched it work for him I must have thought that it would work for me. Big mistake, I`m a different kind of guy, his cockyness makes me look bad. What servers for one man blows another man`s game. 3. For some deeper reason I can`t realize I forget about girls name`s right after they told me, like I don`t even care to listen. This is a huge mistake if you start to build rapport with her and at some point you ask for her name again. This one happened to me a lot on the venues, not only yesterday. 4. I can`t help to admit that I`m over analyzing stuff in a place were you are supposed to have fun and just chill, I head the venues using my everyday brain that can`t stop thinking; and this is what kills all of my game and life. Overthinking. |
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