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| Author: | chrish [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Chrish's Journal |
This just happened. I was walking around Hollywood Blvd at Highland Ave very lost. I know the scene very well, but inside I was very upset with myself. Last night I stayed the night with a bi-sexual man I met at the local church. He is a porn reviewer and his pace is full of all things porn related. he kept telling me how attracted he was to me and about how he always attracts straight men "for some reason". I knew I wasn't going to do anything with this man, and I didn't feel too odd about the experience at all while I was there...but I was so upset with myself today because I was in a sexually charged situation with a man, yet I've never been in that kind of situation with a woman. I walked around and rode the metro around aimlessly for a 30 mins just trying to sort myself out. It's obvious to me that I'm not sexually attracted to guys; it's obvious to me that I am sexually attracted to girls: why do I not have the drive to get them when I have the confidence, the looks, and the will to learn? I've been to Project Hollywood twice now and still haven't got a girl's number. All this ran around my head until I decided to take a firm stance and support myself by getting to pick up the proper way; by putting boots on the ground and going after these women like they're begging me to. Decision made. I start going through the Highland mall now looking for a target and I find myself excluding girls because I say to myself "She's not hot enough." I stopped myself, realizing that's a slick way of bitching out of an approach; at this level the interaction isn't even about the girl. I then saw a girl a little shorter than me (maybe 5'10) with a slender frame, long blonde hair. She reminded me of a girl who used to play flute in my high school band. I say, "Excuse me; did you go to school in Arizona?" HB "No" looking engaged Me "Oh, you look just like this girl who used to play flute in my high school band" HB "Oh no I've never been to Arizona" Me "That's too bad 'cause I had a major crush on her" I saw the dazzle kind of evaporate while she assessed me HB "Oh I see. So is that what you do all day, walk around to random girls asking if they went to high school to you." Me "Actually you're close. But it's something different every time. Like if it's a girl who's wearing something cool I'll be like 'hey you look like...' or whatever. HB "Does it work?" Me "Of course, It's working right now." HB "Oh Really?" Me "Yeah, in a few minutes We'll be making out over there" I point over to a corner of the mall. She starts laughing keeping spirits light through the convo and I tell her my name. She tells me hers and extends her hand while I open my arms for a hug. She shrinks her hand back refusing a hug, "Come on, you're gonna refuse a hug?" HB "I'm not a hugging person bla bla. Are you famous? If so we'll hug right now and get the camera guy to take pictures bla bla." looking back on it now from a birds eye view, I should've just taken her to that guy and started hugging and making out or whatever. Instead I decided to talk more bullshit :/. she replies with more bullshit about her being famous. She's Austrian, came to L.A. to be a model and what not. At this point We've talked way too much I say, Me "Ok if you're just going to bullshit all day you can go, or you can be real." she kind of sobered up, but that also kind of killed the fun as well. I'm noticing here my desire for having deep conversation for the purpose of building a relationship overcame my desire to have fun and get laid Confused I did get her phone number though. The 'I can't believe I'm doing this' express ion was on her face after she started typing it in, but I just marched on with the conversation. Still denied the hug at the end when I parted ways...all in all still pretty decent for my first #close. I'm certainly going to keep things physical next time I go out, forgetting all about "trying" to get to know her, but If she's interesting I'll say something about it. The goal in a nutshell is to be genuine and physical. OK guys, tell me what you think. CH* |
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| Author: | chrish [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | ///Chrish's FR: 2_Quick Refusal |
Well, I'm not sure if this is the type of shit I'm supposed to be posting, but I have a few questions about this approach. I'm walking up Vine to Hollywood Blvd when beside me walks a cutie in a black leather jacket and blonde pixie hair with a Trader Joe's bag. I look at her for 1.5 seconds and take off my giant ass headphones. I say (full-on direct) "who are you?" she replies with her name and a sudden bright smile. I give my name and extend my hand; she shakes it and says something to the effect of "No-sorry" and off she goes. I say good-bye as she walks away and blow a kiss. Right here I thought to myself that I shouldn't have shook her hand; I should just go for a hug, or in this case....I just don't know. All I know is I'm going for a hug next time. anywhoo as I'm going home she banks left, which is where I'm going to go, so I go to the other side of the street. I don't want to follow her, but after two blocks she crosses over to my side of the street, so I decide to go to the other side. In the short term it probably doesn't mean anything, but I was thinking 'I already moved for her once, at this point I've been more than considerate' I don't think I should've moved. I'm not so sure the implications, but it's just a gut feeling. In short, was my thought process regarding the approach on the right track? Thanks all CH* |
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| Author: | chrish [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | ///Chrish's Fr: 3_Industry |
I was at a lame ass house warming party for some past house mates. My roomie John sends me a text "Do you want to go to an industry party?" John is an Actor/Model so I was like "Fuck This Noise" and hopped over to where he was. We made our way to a Restaurant/Club thing in West Hollywood called Lola's. We went inside to find it packed with models and industry big wigs. We meet john's agent and another person as we make our way to the back of the club. I'm just following John at this point seeing as I know no one, but he stopped in front of the DJ booth and began to get nervous. I go into action gaining a small circle. I bring in Two guys with Hair like Justin Guarini, and a young German Model named Klaus, all nice agreeable dudes. Here I see 5 men standing in a circle in the middle of a jumpin' club; we need girls. I turn around and see a little hottie we'll call Katy Perry. "You, come here" I wave her over through the flow of traffic. She comes over and I introduce the Makeshift Entourage, "This is John, That's Klaus...". She was happy to meet us all; the crew cluelessly ask how Katy Perry and I met. Katy: "We Just met" said with a British accent. Me: "We go way back"--Deploy The Claw--It's Super Effective! She hangs on to me for a sec, then goes to get her friend into the fold, we'll call her Robyn (if you don't get these references, Google search is God). Robyn does the whole Kiss-The-Cheek thing when we're introduced; I think it was obvious I'd never done that before by how direct the cheek kisses I planted were. But fuck it, it was cool. after a while the Justin Guarinis talk among themselves and john talks to Katy + Klaus talks to Robyn. I spend 10 seconds choding it up with no one to talk to before I go back into the fray. I run past a set of 3 and go back to introduce myself. " Oh Pardon me, I can't just brush by you without saying hi. I'm Chris" they all introduce themselves. I'm still keeping my who-Gives-A-Shit attitude while being polite, but they don't give much at all to the conversation; I decide to split. I go back to the crew, clap Klaus on the shoulder and deploy the claw on Robyn. Turns out the girls are in a band together Me: "How cool I play sax yada yada" and so forth. things are looking serious between Johnny and Katy, but the girls leave for the moment, and the guys go to the front bar for some free drinks. They ask me again how I made those girls magically appear, and I show them again by turning around and attempting to get a girl over, but only her boyfriend answers me, we have a cool little talk about how awesome it is to just talk to randos. at this point both her and the 3 set we're not feelin' me. It seems to me like if I'm with a group there's no problem, but I need to be able to hook sets alone. More homework for me. The boys go upfront and get Starfuckers while I sit down realizing that for my first shot at proper night game things have gone pretty well (aside from the fact that I let two girls go away without any numbers, but I'll get back to that). I suddenly remember that my birthday was the 4th, and this makes a great substitute (albeit late as fuck) birthday party. I get back up and see Klaus talking with some dude near the bathroom. Dude's name is Nick. Then comes Skylar into the fold. I turn around, find a chick who looked a little mouse-ish, introduce her to the posse, and chat for a few mins with her. Just the normal "Are you With the Agency?" bullshit, but I was pretty cool with it. I tell her this is my Make-shift birthday party, and she assumed it was my birthday. She screams Happy Birthday, I deploy claw. I give her a mission. Get me Three People to come and sing me Happy Birthday, I say the same to Nick + Skylar. within one Minute there are 10 people around me, all hotties and Big wigs singing me Happy Birthday. to be honest it was kind of weird, I mean they sang well enough, but it's kind of strange that I could just get people to do that. They All paused when it came to "Happy Birthday Dear..." when Mouse remembered my name and they all came back with "Chris". Crazy weird, but kinda cool. Mouse introduced me to a chick we'll call Brandy (I.E. Moesha). She was told me she was the owner of the place, we had a good back and forth. When john came over I introduces her as the owner, then she told me she was just lying. Looking back....problem. Anyway I talk to her more, no real PUA DHV kinda shit, just regular shit. Then I'm like "Hey, you're cool as shit. Put your number in my phone, I'll text you when I'm doing something cool." She puts number in phone, all is good, then I go to see where my friends are....this is where I'm kicking myself. I think at this point I should have brought her along and used her to gain an even larger circle to pick from than just taking her number and leaving her. I mean I'm glad I did that much, but I can do so much more. So..Many...People. I go back to my guys all talking about the night so far. John is bitching about how he can't find Katy Perry when she walk up to us all. John gets her number + isolates, Robyn is having some super important dinner in the dining room. I'm choding it up with all the guys, and all the hot chicks have left the club. There were some left over, but they had big wigs hovering over them at tables and I'd have no Idea how to take them. Best part of the night for me was when an older lady, say in her forties, came to table Skylar and I were sitting at to rest; it had been a long day and she'd talked to a lot of people. I felt the exact same so I decided not to really chat, I just sat back and listened to the cool back and forth. She turned out to be some kind of important person, and when her friend came up to take her home she introduced Skylar then looked at me and smiled. Me: "I'm Chris. I know, I've been speaking with everyone tonight, I'm so wiped out." Her: "And you still have a beautiful energy about you." I gave a big thankful smile. I know I've done a great job, and it was great to receive an amazing compliment like that. good times over all. For some reason though John decided not to lay Katy Perry, like he didn't want to 'do it on the first night'. I kind of cringed...but regardless that was one of the best nights I've ever had. We couldn't stop laughing the entire way home, and I got swamped with compliments by all of the guys about how much I owned the club that night. It was good, but I know I can do better. I have a few main questions for you guys though. How can I better approach sets while I'm alone? Am I right about insta-dating right after getting her number? is my thought process on point? Again, Thank you guys for reading and commenting. CH* |
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| Author: | Slip n Slide [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Chrish's Journal |
Quote: I was in a sexually charged situation with a man, yet I've never been in that kind of situation with a woman.
Really? You seem cool as fuck, man. I'm younger, but I'd chill with you if I met you at a party. Keep doing your thing, you're on a great track. |
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| Author: | chrish [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Slip n Slide |
Quote: Quote: I was in a sexually charged situation with a man, yet I've never been in that kind of situation with a woman.
Really?
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| Author: | chrish [ Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | ///Chrish's Fr: 4_Don, Aman |
Went to Tru in Hollywood for a fashion after party. the club was so damn cliche cool that I spent the first two minutes laughing my ass off thinking what did I just walk into. opened one set of note. We danced the single ladies dance, then she gave me two shit test I ran right into. She was throwing shit at me to see how I would react and I pretty much ignored her and pulled away a little, she pulled closer into me than asked how old I was with a be honest. I told her her I am 22. She said something like I'll be her little brother (more shit I could care less about), and I just kept dancing with the group. than she asked me how gay I am with an other be honest. I spend two second and ask If she has a penis. HB "Maybe" ME "Than we'll see how gay I am" By this time we pretty much hasn't let go of my waist. she kept saying some other mess I don't remember exactly what, but she asked me to compare something between her and me, some form of shit test. I lust looked at her and she tried to cut the tension by saying something; so I went right in for a kiss. she pulled away with a cute little scream and squirmed off of me to her friend. I had no Idea how to get back into set, and decided to go find someone else to open. I didn't open anyone else though, I felt unworthy to open any sets, so after a few minutes of dancing and being lost I just left for the walk home. Although I was upset that I let my hunt for approval get the best of me, I still smiled the entire way home knowing that that night was a necessary part of the process. Going out has to become normalcy for me. meeting new people has to become normalcy for me. I have more FR backlogs coming. Thanks for everything, all the advice I get from you guys means a lot and helps a ton. CH* |
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| Author: | chrish [ Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | ///Chris' FR: 5_No Homo, but really gay |
Rasputin in West Hollywood. Lots of gay men and a decent selection of women. I was with three of my house mates, tow women and one gay man. I went to work just dancing and having fun, then began to get into the groove of pulling women I wanted in to dance with me. I've never felt up so many women in my life, that was very nice. after dancing I would kiss them on the cheek. with on I had a full on make out on the dance floor, that being my first spontaneous make out (dope). I tried to get her over too the seats but she said she couldn't leave her friends. funny enough that I forgot she only said that as ASD, but even looking back I'm kind of at a los as to how to respond. I just let her go, I was on some abundance shit. The primary purpose of the night was to have some fun, that probably helped a lot. Thanks Guys! CH* |
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| Author: | chrish [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | ///Chris' FR_6: PUA Feeding Frenzy |
three set on the move arm in arm, skin tight black pants and skimpy tops. I walk up to them all in booming voice "I have to know, do you three ever not get hit on walking down the street." They look at each other checking to decide how to react. they all say no while still walking and giggling. pretty nice, simply getting talkative. An other three set. Two girls and one guy, one cutie held eye contact with me. "What is it?" I ask, she laughs and stops. at this point we've passed each other. I walk towards her and say, "There are consequences to giving that look" (Thanks Hypnotica) I completely forget the response, but I believe her friends pull her away. In this way I realize that I don't need permission to speak to girls; I think I deeply believe that now. in the W girl looks like woman I approached earlier and I approach her like, were you the one I saw earlier? she totally ignores me. The place was packed with PUAs from Tyler Durden to David Shade. I go outside to a blonde sitting alone, I tell her she looks like....I totally forget who, and she picks up with talking about all the people she looks like. Shortly into set she's complimenting me on my openness to approach. She started to have me fix my posture a little bit and explain why. She knew a lot about PU without using the exact terms, but she sounded like a community person. he told me shit I knew with such authority that I shut up and listened too her, specially since she appreciated it so much. I was totally knocked into the exact wrong frame. When her friends came into the set she introduced me as her friend. Long story short I wanted more approval and never left the set in hopes of gaining more, which is of course the exact opposite of why I gained her approval primarily. |
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| Author: | chrish [ Thu May 24, 2012 7:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | ///Tone's FRs_7:Standing on the Threshold |
With all the guys last night at Rock'n Rielies. I go in feelin' great (useless anecdote). I begin too officially open sets very lazily. I roll into a set with mavin, two women and Mavin and I and a live-in go in. The live in is on fire being super sociable with the set. I find myself watching the it all happen. Mark was arguing with one of the girls about southern accents. I was mindful while leaving the set that I didn't leave awkwardly. "Well guys, I'll let this argument continue and go inside. I'll see you" Every opener I used that night was something randomly weird from the last set. For me I am getting used to transitioning from random shit into actual conversations. The more into myself, and the more I relate my randomness to their lives, the better I hook the set. I legitimately had a fun night, which led to truly whacky openers. from not hugging properly, to bunnies fucking on ecstasy. Going out through the bar I trip over some tall black girl's shoes. We hit it off very well, in fact it's pretty much on between us; and It never registered in my mind that right at the bar where we were talking was the perfect spot to make out. she introduced me to her friend, who I met earlier, then to a group at a table. I told her I'll be out back for a moment to see my friends. I spent four or five minutes out back. Right here is the same position I've been hanging up on for three nights in a row; where a girl expresses interest, and I'm completely unsure how to act. I texted the guys and they were already on their way to red rock, so I went back to her and invited her to come to Red Rock with me. She and her friends we're going later, but when I met the guys at Red Rock we left soon after and never caught up with her. I keep trying different paths with this stumbling block, getting more adventurous each time, but this was interesting. I've got to react properly when I get clear go signals like she was giving me. Any thoughts are appreciated guys. Thanks. Tone* |
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| Author: | Brotein [ Thu May 24, 2012 10:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ///Chrish's Fr: 4_Don, Aman |
Quote: second and ask If she has a penis.
haha I like the opener i might use that for my night game.HB "Maybe" ME "Than we'll see how gay I am" By this time we pretty much hasn't let go of my waist. she kept saying some other mess I don't remember exactly what, but she asked me to compare something between her and me, some form of shit test. I lust looked at her and she tried to cut the tension by saying something; so I went right in for a kiss. she pulled away with a cute little scream and squirmed off of me to her friend. I had no Idea how to get back into set, and decided to go find someone else to open. I didn't open anyone else though, I felt unworthy to open any sets, so after a few minutes of dancing and being lost I just left for the walk home. Although I was upset that I let my hunt for approval get the best of me, I still smiled the entire way home knowing that that night was a necessary part of the process. Going out has to become normalcy for me. meeting new people has to become normalcy for me. I have more FR backlogs coming. Thanks for everything, all the advice I get from you guys means a lot and helps a ton. CH* I am not going to claim to be a pua expert because i'm still struggling to approach myself but i've read enough to maybe see what the problem is. you are going in for the kiss without qualifying her. so to her.. you must do this to every girl .. so to her you must not get a lot girls thus being low value. What you should do is respond to her shit tests with your own shit tests. screen her as if you are suspicious of her. and that she has to respond with the correct answer to win you over. if she sees that you are selective then she will asssume you have value thus feeling more comfortable. also apply push and pull. i learned that dealing with night sets that i isolate. I've had makeouts not end in sex because i didn't push/pull and qualify enough. but keep it up man. I'm from arizona too, if thats where you are actually from. |
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