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Author:  darkcrusher84 [ Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:33 pm ]
Post subject:  From Chump to Champ: A Journey

I'm 27 and when It comes to game... I admit that at this point in time.. I really suck!
I came to this conclusion by not having a single make-out or lay for over a year. The weird thing however is that I've bedded 40+ chicks (prostitutes not included ) during my life so far. The way I got pussy back then was by working at a bar to pay for university. At the bar, chicks were opening me... It was peace of cake and I was enjoying myself back then. When I finished uni and finally got my engineering degree in electronics... the party(working at the bar) was over. Real life started and a lot of social connections eventually dropped dead. Besides that I'm not enjoying my current job and I cant tell if its my current job, engineering in general or the fact that I simply have to work. This stuff all leaded to a downwards spiral. I'm currently not happy with my life and I've made a commitment to myself to fucking CHANGE my life!

I will update this journal on a regular basis and hope to get feedback from u guyz. I also hope that (over time) it will inspire others.

Author:  darkcrusher84 [ Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:08 pm ]
Post subject:  bootcamp

I took my first bootcamp in Amsterdam. Opened 50+ girls. Had a nice weekend and learned alot. Approuch anxienty is far less :)

Author:  LyricalDream [ Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:14 am ]
Post subject: 

Dark, since you've contacted me to hang out and stuff regarding PU, I assume that you can put a bit more effort in getting better.

Analyze your last weekend, thoroughly, write it down and summurize your findings.

I'll help you futher when you've done that.

≠ LD

Author:  darkcrusher84 [ Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:35 pm ]
Post subject:  bootcamp revieuw

Quote:
Dark, since you've contacted me to hang out and stuff regarding PU, I assume that you can put a bit more effort in getting better.

Analyze your last weekend, thoroughly, write it down and summurize your findings.

I'll help you futher when you've done that.

≠ LD
Okay, here's my attempt...

NIGHTGAME
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When I'm out to a club I have the habbit of walking in, buying a drink and next looking around to a see what kind of hot chicks there are out there and then thinking of something I can say and overanalyzing what could go wrong. This leads to nerveousness and me not approuching at all and regretting it afterwards. During the bootcamp I had a coach which gave an opening line and he pushed me into approuching. It was out of my confort zone but I did it. I cant remember all opening lines but here are few:

- "Hey, are those glasses real or are you trying to be sexy ?"
- "Do you think men know what women need and want" ?
- "What do you think about women on motorcycles ?"
- "Hey, you're not dancing on the beat!"
- " Hi, I need to tell u something... you're fucking sexy! "

Mostly they responded OK but my problem after that is holding a conversation. Mostly they were dead after the opener or like 2 mins. There was 1 set which lasted longer and I was able to Nr close that one. I forgot which opener I've used on them. I was also able to dance with a hot MILF :p.


There were also a few cases which I a got rejected after opening. They were either looking at me as if I was a freak or just making fun of me. At a certain point I also got that anxious that I was sweating so much that a girl said: "you smell like sweat". I think that was the most painfull one lol.

My coach also told me I should also work on to talk more passionately about something and to talk slower. I saw him opening with with the topic "grass" which is something boring but he spoke really passionate about it. I learned that the topic itself is less important than the way you talk about it. Other stuff I need to work on is not leaning in during the convo.

DAYGAME
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I've never done a single approuch in my life others than asking for directions during the day. This stuff was quite new for me. My coach pushed me into this:
- Walk and look around and see if I can spot HB
- Let her pass by, turn around and follow her
- Walk past her , turn around and say "stop" with a smile :)
- "I need to tell you something You're cute" (smiling)

So in essence this was very direct and felt very ackward. Nevertheless I did it an I was surprised by the number of positive reactions. Most of them were smiling and saying thank you. Again I ran out of things to say. But I'm glad I was able to approuch during the day. I noticed that I have more AA in daygame vs club game.

This is what I learned and need to work on:
-Approuch as much as I can cause its a numbers game (need to eliminate more AA fear)
-Surround myself with ppl who are into PU (find PU buddies)
- Use more deodarant (smell better)
- Dont lean in
- Talk more passionate about something (need to find out about what stuff I'm passionate about)

Author:  darkcrusher84 [ Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:23 pm ]
Post subject:  club weekend

Friday and saturday evening I went clubbing with my friends. I did arround 20 approuches and found that my approuch anxienty is far less than before the bootcamp. It however sometimes kicks in. It's like on off on off on off.

I also noted I have less AA when one of my buddies also was into approuching.

I nr closed 1 HB but it turned into a flake. Which I expected as there was only very little conversation.

It's still a long road....

Author:  darkcrusher84 [ Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:29 pm ]
Post subject:  sarging alone

This weekend I tried clubbing alone on friday evening and saturday evening. In total I did around 25 approuches. On Friday it felt very unconfortable and I was not getting past opening... After 10 approuches I went home like a loser.

I was doubting to go again sarging alone on saturday. I decided to give it one more try and I'm glad I did. I did around 15 approuches and had some longer conversations with around 3 girls. I noticed that opinion openers and openers about her (her glasses or how tall she is) work very well. I facebook closed 1 HB7 and I'm sure this time she wont flake since she showed interest. I think the main reason was that I (after opening) said that I'm not into tall girls and was just curious about her. Seems it really helps to disqualify yourself as a potential suitor!

There was also a 2 set and they were opening me:
HB's: How can I get rid of this guy ?
Me: Kick him in the nuts or say you 2 are lesbians
HB's: (laughing) Okay from now on we're lesbians, are you in for a threesome ?

I was doubting if they were serious so I responded with...
Me: Sorry I'm gay

Then they left and opened up other guys and I saw them leaving the venue shortly afterwards... damnit!! So close to an f-close!! Damnit!

Author:  darkcrusher84 [ Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:14 pm ]
Post subject:  eye opener

This week I went under hypnosis to boost my confidence.. I'm not sure if it really helped.. but it cant be bad :)

I've finally also met some local guys (through forum) who are into the game and saw them in action.. I really couldnt believe my eyes! These dudes are awesome!

First PUA: He get layed 30 times a year, lives with hot twins, and the girls he's out with open for him! He doesnt go the gym and has almost no money.

2nd PUA: I asked him to PU a HB9 in a mixed set during clubbing. He opened the guys, befriended them, owned the set and found out one of these guys was her boyfriend. Then he talked to the girl and holded his phone under the table.. she putted her number in it and few mins later they were texting very naughty..unbelievable!

3d PUA: A natural, he opened EVERY HB, its like he owns the club.. I saw him in action and he was extremely charismatic, out of 100 times opening he didnt get a single rejection.. He was like a machine.. always talking...always approuching.. always smiling.

Februari will be the month I will try to meet as much of these awesome guyz as possible!

Author:  darkcrusher84 [ Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:58 pm ]
Post subject:  internet dating

Strange stuff can happen... I've changed my profile pics on an online dating site and next thing I know some chick was extremely interested. She's black and has insane big boobs:). Lets call her lola. I was able to set up a date with her very easly and k-close very fast. When she was in my car I tried to go for her pants but I got rejected. I tried the same on the second date... she asks me why I'm in such a hurry...
She made clear she only wanted a serious relationship. Since I didn't want to loose the opportunity to bang her I said I want this too. I'm not sure if this was wise to do.
How do you PUA's handle this situation ?


For the rest of the weekend I again met some ppl who are into game. The most amazing stuff I saw was during daygame... There was a guy going direct and he had an instant date... great stuff

But for some reason I again had massive AA and didnt do alot of approuches

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