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| Author: | Radar01 [ Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:10 pm ] |
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After watching both seasons of the PUA recently and reading some basic theory i decided to give gaming a go. Here's how it went. Advice would be appreciated I'm an 18 yr old uni student in england btw. I also drank a bit too much (ruined it a bit possibly), not to overcome AA that doesn't rly bother me, but just because i was with friends. This was in a bar with one bit being fairly quiet the other as loud as a club. Set 1: HB 7/8 (single at first) I opened very well, over the shoulder used the "did you see the fight outside" good body language constant body rocking. She responded well gave IOIs like basically forcing me to stay with her, laughing, rly engaged in my stories etc. Held my hand out she took it and i lead her to dance floor. did basic kino (not enough?) touched shoulder a few games like spin, the hand mirror thing. She complied so i went straight for the K close. Failed don't rly no what happened ( loud dark and alcohol). Set 2: HB 5/6 with one friend Exactly the same as before except she had the friend who i made no effort to introduce myself to. The friend was dragging her away but she still tried to get me. Managed to isolate same kino as before. Asked are you impulsive. She said yes went for k close. Failed she said she was still wanted to dance but 'she was not that type of girl'. wasn't in the mood to play games so just left. Set 3: HB 7 I was already at dancefloor. so too loud to properly open. But tried saying stuff in her ear. she complied a bit took my hand etc mirror hand test thing asked how good a kisser she was, she said 9. for some reason i thought it would be a good neg to say 'your probably a 7' got the finger lol. Obviously i know what i did wrong in set 3 and i should have greeted the friend. but the other 2 how can i improve the bit after the opener and isolation? i can tell obviously i should drink less and take a bit slower maybe sit on the couch or something. Anything else. First attempt and was very impressed at how effective some of it was. thx |
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| Author: | Radar01 [ Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:53 am ] |
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Any advice at all? |
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| Author: | Radar01 [ Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:06 am ] |
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I'm back to the same bar in 2 days. Could anyone give any pointers. |
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| Author: | Seven777 [ Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:27 pm ] |
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Man, well done! I think for the first time that was awesome! After you open, try embedding some some DHV lines and some negs, but dont forget about the comfort too. Im not really good at this, but from what I can sense, is that you didn't work on the attraction, if ya did not include any DHV's, or comfort. Remember, if she is not comfortable with you, kissing is a hard thing to pull off. Instead of dancing I would have isolated her to a more quite place, then into games - 5 false questions (style), the cube ot ESP? + kino escalation. Dont forget that in comfort, you tan talk about shit like hobbies, likes etc. Overall, awesome work man, much better than I did ha ha Ps. try reading Mystery Method aka MM, I am reading it now and it is awesome! |
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| Author: | xZEROx [ Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:44 pm ] |
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Hey man, it sounds like you are going for the kiss close very early, leave it a bit until you have a decent level of attraction, and don't get drunk it ruins your game, it's not a good way of coping with AA. Good luck! |
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| Author: | Vice9011 [ Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:51 pm ] |
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Lot of potential here- you seem to have the stones for Pick-up and for a first-time sarge this is a pretty impressive field report. When you aren't 'in the mood to play games' it might be a good idea to install a filter- most efficiently done by playing around with your opening. For example, if you're doing a very indirect opener ("Did you see the fight outside?") and fail to make a clear statement of intent (show her that you're there because you like her, not to have a relatively meaningless conversation about fights and best friend tests) you might distance yourself too far from the more direct frame that ups the sexual tension- and lead to you and the girl having to 'play games'. Why do I call this a filter? Because if you open differently (e.g. very direct, or an indirect opener immediately followed by a statement of intend) you'll easily notice the girls that are only interested in 'playing games', and a "Nice to meet you, bye" will save you a lot of time- keep in mind the numbers game. -Vice |
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| Author: | Radar01 [ Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:35 pm ] |
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Quote: Lot of potential here- you seem to have the stones for Pick-up and for a first-time sarge this is a pretty impressive field report.
When you aren't 'in the mood to play games' it might be a good idea to install a filter- most efficiently done by playing around with your opening. For example, if you're doing a very indirect opener ("Did you see the fight outside?") and fail to make a clear statement of intent (show her that you're there because you like her, not to have a relatively meaningless conversation about fights and best friend tests) you might distance yourself too far from the more direct frame that ups the sexual tension- and lead to you and the girl having to 'play games'. Why do I call this a filter? Because if you open differently (e.g. very direct, or an indirect opener immediately followed by a statement of intend) you'll easily notice the girls that are only interested in 'playing games', and a "Nice to meet you, bye" will save you a lot of time- keep in mind the numbers game. -Vice Thx. What sort of statement of intent could I use that wouldn't get me blown out or make me seem needy? I think both replies are on the money i was building friendship and not attraction. then pulled the kissing gambit out of almost nowhere. I think i need more kino and more attraction. I'm going back tomorrow night and hopefully will be better. |
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| Author: | Vice9011 [ Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:02 pm ] |
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Quote: Thx. What sort of statement of intent could I use that wouldn't get me blown out or make me seem needy?
N4: "Did you see the fight outside?"I think both replies are on the money i was building friendship and not attraction. then pulled the kissing gambit out of almost nowhere. I think i need more kino and more attraction. I'm going back tomorrow night and hopefully will be better. HB10: blabla haha blabla N4: "Anyway, you seemed interesting so I wanted to come over and say hi." (You can also open with this) A pretty innocent little direct line- doesn't immediately set a sexual frame, but does tell her you're talking to her because she seems interesting, not because of the interesting routines/gambits you are running. Also, this 'label' of being interesting is something that she can quite easily lose, right? If she starts talking about the most boring standard stuff she'll no longer be interesting- and while she's physically attractive, tons of women are and that won't keep your interest for her. (The abundance mentality) Kind of adopting and vibing that idea should keep you away from seeming 'needy'. You can then start your kino escalation and go for the kiss if the interaction's right. PS. Forgot to work this in, but make sure that after the opener- even if she asks you- you don't go explaining why you think she's interesting, giving this list and throwing yourself into this negative spiral. A vague line followed by the idea that she has to prove herself to you, then move on, is best. Something like: HB10: Really? Why? N4: I'm not sure, you just give of this attractive vibe- does that come natural to you or were you just using your feminine wiles to lure me over here? I bet that's it. ... |
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