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Author:  xxlovebitexx [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:52 am ]
Post subject:  My Journey from AFC to PUA

I'm relatively new to this forum, but not so much to pickup. It's been about a year and a half since I read The Game, and since then I've been switching from practicing PUA to being in relationships. Usually I would just stick with the first girl who I successfully kissed or f-closed since I get attached very easily, then after we broke up I would go find a new one. I've been meaning to fix this since it's very needy, which is why I'm starting this journal.

I'm currently doing the Stylelife challenge to get back on my feet since I'm pretty shy. I've never made it past Day 4 without closing a girl and deciding to quit the challenge. I want to finish all 30 days of the challenge without losing my motivation like I so often do... and what better way to do that than to have other people help you out?

My style is pretty much a mix of mystery method and just being cocky-funny, but I read a lot about direct game on this forum which is really different. I really want other people's opinions of which styles have worked for them in the situations I'm about to put myself in and some constructive criticism too. Don't be afraid to be blunt with me if I do something really AFC too.

There is one other person on this forum who lives near me, his name is Spairert. We're going to be winging once we get the chance so you'll be criticizing both of us, not just me.

I'm about to go out to a bar to do Mission 4: Ask 3 girls for a clothing outlet recommendation and get at least 2. The bar isn't particularly my favorite since it's full of douchebags from the college here, but tonight they're sponsoring a Victoria's Secret "pajama party" for the fashion show which is perfect for this mission.

Wish me luck

Author:  xxlovebitexx [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:40 pm ]
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Okay, so, bad news. Not only wasn't there a single girl in Victoria's Secret pajamas last night, but the bar music was so loud that you could scream, "I HAVE A BOMB!!!" and nobody would have heard you.

How do you game at a place where you can't hear yourself think? I'm not really bold enough to randomly start grinding on some girls

Author:  xxlovebitexx [ Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:05 pm ]
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So it's been awhile and a lot has happened since my last post. I meant to write everything down as I went along, but my computer kept overheating so I couldn't make a post without it shutting down.

Before I say what happened, I want you guys to know that I did not come here to be lectured about morality, so please keep your thoughts about my moral compass to yourself.

Anyway, here's a basic rundown of what happened. I was in a tag football game and my teammates were talking about this girl on the sidelines who was supposedly crazy. Later that day one of my teammates jokingly asked if I wanted her number since she was a virgin (I have a track record of mostly virgins) so I accepted, since I saw it as a good way to test out my phone game. She never met me and doesn't even know what I look like, but after about 15 minutes of texting her I built enough interest in her that she was willing to go on a blind date with me in about 2 days. Within those 2 days I texted her enough that I would remain mysterious as to keep her looking forward to our blind enough, but not so much that I appeared needy.

When the day came, we just chilled at an indie coffee place and talking for a few hours. I was paying attention to everything she said, but I was also thinking about kissing her the whole time. I tried building rapport and I did one or two routines on her just to be sure she was having fun. I noticed some IOI's (both physical and vocal) from her that indicated that she might want me to kiss her, but also showed conflicting body language indicating she didn't. For instance, she would touch me on the shoulder briefly but then back away from me. I have good hygiene so I know it wasn't because I smelled or anything like that lol. She also had trouble maintaining eye contact with me which I thought was kind of weird. Now even though I planned to kiss her, I didn't because of how conflicting she was being. I didn't feel any chemistry and I didn't know if she did so we just parted ways.

The next day she texts me saying I'm a great guy, but that she doesn't want to be dating because of *insert typical BS excuse for not wanting to go on another date*. She basically LJBF'd me. She said if I never wanted to hear from her again that would be fine, but I decided that if I couldn't close her then I could use her to help me close with other girls. I could use more friends. Besides, I have to learn to take rejection sooner or later. So I tell her it's ok. The next day I have to take my car to the mechanic, and she texts me asking what I'm doing. I told her that I was at the mechanic and she asks if I want to hang out. I had an hour to kill so I hung out with her. We hang out at a different coffee place for awhile. Now since she LJBF'd me, I obviously acted different than when we went on our date (more liberal about teasing her). That might have been what triggered this, but we were in my car talking and she was giving me a lot of kino. It went from simple taps on the shoulder to rubbing my leg. Then she asked me if she could kiss me so see if she felt anything. So she kiss closed me. She asked if I felt anything and I said no (probably a bad move, but I didn't) and she said she felt something.

Anyway I g2g something just came out. I'll finish out this post later.[/b]

Author:  Fruz [ Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:35 pm ]
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Once i heard good thing dont game the girls that you dont want to close...

Author:  xxlovebitexx [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:26 am ]
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Alright so continuing from my last post...

We kissed and she told me she felt something, even though I didn't. About 2 days later we were at school (we go to the same college) and she wanted to see me. So we saw eachother then she invited me to her house since her parents weren't home. She showed me around, we had a heavy make out session, then she tells me she really wants to have sex with me but doesn't know if she should. Seeing as this was LMR and that she was a virgin, I simply said "I don't want you to do anything you might regret". I know that sounds waaaaaay off from what some PUA's might say, but in my experience it works very well on virgins since they don't want to think of their first time as simply a hookup or that they were easy. She said, "yeah, you're right". If you do what I do, expect them to always agree with you the first time you say that. It's ok though, because they always ask you about it again later as long as you don't pressure her verbally. Physically however, you should keep teasing her. About 10 minutes later she asked again if we could have sex. So it only took 4 days for me to deflower her, which is a couple steps up from the 2 months I needed for the last virgin I had sex with. And again, I resisted, to make her the one who wants it and me the one who decides whether she's going to get it or not. Third time she asked immediately after I resisted, and I finally said yes but without being too eager. We had sex, and her mom came home almost immediately after we were done. So I had to meet her mom before I left. I had to meet her dad as well, which kind of sucked. After a few more dates with her, we both decided that we would date, but that we weren't officially girlfriend and boyfriend.

Now here is where the trouble began. The same week I spent meeting and closing this new girl, is the same week that I began noticing major IOI's from this girl I work with. I admit this was probably not a good move, but I told her I had something to tell her. I intentionally built it up over a period of 3 days so that on the third day I would tell her I liked her, and she reciprocated very positively. Now, normally I have a rule against doing anything with coworkers. But I was very curious about this girl because I've suspected that she liked me for about 2 months now. We both agreed that we would keep things with us quiet, and she knew that I wasn't exclusive. The other girl however, didn't know I wasn't exclusive and she was already taking things really fast with me. By this time I had found out that the first girl has some serious emotional baggage, and she would from time to time ask me in a worried way if I was about to break up with her. Not only did I feel bad about it, but I have what some people call a "white knight complex". I have a need to fix girls who are broken, which is why I have never had a one night stand; I can't just leave a girl once I've found her.

Back to the second girl. Since I work with her, we would each give eachother a certain look since we both knew we were attracted to eachother, but that nobody else can find out. The weird thing was that over text she would be more affectionate, but in real life it was as though nothing happened. She still acted the same. At work she never mentioned attraction, never talked to me about going on a date or anything... so I decided to take initiative. One day, while my boss was at work might I add, I took her by the arm and said "c'mon, I have to show you something". I brought her into the back where the cameras couldn't see us, and I kissed her before she even knew what happened. She simply looked at me and said, "you're still on the clock", as if nothing happened. When I left however, she texted me saying how much she liked the kiss, how much it made her day, and how she wants more. So it seemed she had trouble expressing emotion in real life which I actually thought was adorable.

I didn't think it was ever going to get sexual with her... that is, until Christmas Eve arrived. She heard from my other coworkers that I have abs, and she asked me for a pic of them. I told her I would give her a pic if she gave me one too. When she said, top for top?" Since I was only sending her a pic of my abs, at most I was expecting a pic of her showing her stomach with her bra on. What she sent me was a frontal full body pic of her in just her panties. It wasn't the last nude pic she sent me either. Even though she was sending me nudes, she was still hesitant about talking about sex. So 2 days ago I played a game with her where I would text a pun with a harry potter reference, which eventually led to sexual innuendos that made a harry potter reference. By the time we both ran out of sexy things to say, she told me she was really turned on and I broke through the sexual text barrier. The only barrier I need to break through now is in real life, which should be easy. Our relationship just keeps getting more sexual and it would be obvious to anyone who is in my situation that we're going to have sex in the near future. She's starting to call me nicknames like "babe" and we promised to go skinny dipping together once it gets warmer or once we find a hot tub. Just like the last girl, this girl is starting to act like a girlfriend too.

Since then, the first girl considers herself my girlfriend and she introduced me that way to her family (most of which whom I've met at this point), even though we both agreed we'd take it slow. I feel like I can't break up with her until either I "fix" her mental state or until she goes off to a different college and we can have a mutual breakup. As for the other girl, she knows about my "girlfriend" and she seems to be ok with it because when she asked about her, I told her maybe we shouldn't get to know eachother anymore. She still wanted to though, and I think she's waiting until I break up with the first girl because I told her I was going to do that eventually. Girl A doesn't know about anything I did with girl B, but girl B knows what I've been doing with girl A. I don't feel the same way about girl A that she feels for me, and I only feel a spark with girl B but that could get bad since I work with her.

So what was supposed to be a journal to becoming a pua somehow turned into a crappy soap opera episode. Hopefully I can get back on track once this is over.

Author:  xxlovebitexx [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:27 am ]
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Quote:
Once i heard good thing dont game the girls that you dont want to close...
But I did want to close her lol

Author:  40 year old virgins broth [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:36 am ]
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one succes doesnt make u a pua, actually the more u fail the more likely u are to be a good pua.

find another hobby though, obsessing about picking up women will do nothing for your life in general.

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