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New pua: I have 6 plus months to get good at this. (Journal)
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Author:  hersh [ Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:10 pm ]
Post subject:  New pua: I have 6 plus months to get good at this. (Journal)
Who am I? The basics
Hi im Hersh. Im 18 years old and found out about the game about a year ago. I live in Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia).

Why I am starting
Despite reading the game a year ago, i never really put much of it into practise. This was because i landed a girlfriend shortly after and I am still with her. The reason i want to get good at pua is for two reasons. Firstly, i want to be sure shes the right one for me and not a case of one itis. Secondly, i think i will make a better boyfriend by working on this skillset and increasing my levels of confidence. I hope these new social skills will translate to making cool friends and contacts too.

My current skill level
Im currently slightly worse at social skills than an average afc i think. Im very interllectual and therefore perhaps quite lacking in social skills and emotional intelligence. I often struggle to hold conversations with most people and opening a stranger seems quite unnerving to me. Eye contact has always been a challenge for me and so has escalating an interaction. Im overweight by a fair ammount and average in terms of height, i believe im decent looking. If it matters, im quite well of financially and this is one of the reasons for my few sucsessess and girlfriends so far.

My goals:
-Be able to have more friends (male and female) than i can handle
-Be confident and have an aura that naturally draws in people
-Be able to go to a new country and go out without knowing anyone and have some great interactions
-Get many many many more women into my life
-Ultimately reaching the level where i can naturally be sexy to the girls

Shorter term goals:
-Be comfortable opening sets
-Using natural or routines game, get the opening and attraction phase of a pickup down
-Be able to hold atleast 5 minute conversations with anyone during the day or night
-Get confident body language and eye contact

Plan:
Starting from the 22nd of november till july next year i have a break from my studies. I only have two goals during this break.
1) Get good with women
2) Get into physical shape (for my health mainly)

I will be posting on this forum everyday i go out gaming and hopefully ill get some great advice from several people on these forums :)

Goal for now:
Use a stock opener and get comfortable using it.

A few im considering are:
1) Hey I like your clothes but it dosent match with that purse
2) Hey I love your shirt but im not really feeling that skirt
3) Hey, how does this shirt look on me?
4) Escusme, (shoulder touch) im looking for my friends, you havn't eaten them have you? (smile)
If she says yes then follow with: Oh dear now i have to settle for your company
5) Hey! are you stalking me? (smirk)
If she says no: Oh so now you are denying it? (smile)
6) Hey i like your style. But those shoes.....
7) Hey i like that top where have i seen it before?
Follow up with: Oh thats right, my grandma was wearing it (smile)

Critique my openers please :) thanks! I didnt invent them by the way :P

Finally questions that if you could awnser it would be really great:
1) I live in malaysia. Is the game universal if most people here speak english?
2) Day vs night vs both
3) If approaching a group can i straight away talk to the girl i like?
4) If not do i need to have an opener in store for groups?
5) Reccomendations and any changes you guys think i should make to my goals and ect.

Thanks guys will post again soon :) cheers
Author:  hersh [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Day 1
Goals for tonight:
-Open 12 sets with atleast one girl in each of them
-Use something simple like Hi for girl or Whats up guys for groups
-Stay in the set till i feel awkward

Worries:
-Getting beaten up....
-Getting humiliated
-Looking like a creep

What I hope to achieve:
-Losing some of my AA
-Get comfortable talking to girls
-Perhaps get some IOI's and taking the interaction further

Will post after my session tonight. Hope all goes to plan.
Author:  cameroon85 [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:40 pm ]
Post subject: 
Good luck mate!!

Post back later please
Author:  SmoothOp [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:49 pm ]
Post subject: 
Same reason I got into pickup.

Good luck, good goals. Trust me man, once you gain some confidence and social skills, you will get tempted. Don't be a pussy like I was and cheat on the GF. If you start having doubts about the girl, just be honest and let her go!
Author:  hersh [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:37 pm ]
Post subject:  18/11/11
Initial thoughts:
-Pua is not as easy at it seems :S
-I thought deep down I'd end up with a good # close tonight
-Ive realised how you say it is 100000 times more important than what you say.

What happened:
My goal was to approach 12 sets tonight. I did fail indeed. I ended up approaching one set. I got quite tipsy and my friend found this HB 6-7 hot. Opened them to help him out.

The good:
-I realised opening is actually quite natural and saying yo whats up guys! is simple yet quite effective.
-Opening is no big deal and i should practise getting good at it.

The bad:
-I opened only one set when i was meant to open 12. I need to stick to my goals and not get overpowered by negative emotions and AA.
-I had to get tipsy before opening my first set this is not good and i need to do it sober. Tomorrow night i willl. If no one then my readers on this forums will hold me accountable to it!!
-When i was chit chatting to a girl after a bit i fell into random boring chit chat for example whats your name, where are you from, what do you work as.

What i learned:
-Stick to my goals even if that means my friends will laugh at me.
-Opening is easy. Attraction is where the game really begins
-HB's are often quite social and fun to talk to. Enjoy talking to them and dont worry tooooo much about pua and closes for now.

For the future:
-My goal for tomorrow night is the same as last night except im gonna stick to it

Questions:
-I went to a very loud night club tonight. Could barely deliver my openers which added to my AA. Is it possible to PUA in very loud clubs?

Summary:
I did indeed figure out opening is the simplest yet most nessasary step in pickup. I need to work on opening in a manner with solid body language and eye contact. The opener I think really does not matter. It is how it is delivered that matters. I should realise what went wrong tonight (me not sticking to my game plan) and make sure tomorrow I do indeed open 12 sets. Who gives a shit if i get blown out right homies? :P Practise is practise :)
Author:  hersh [ Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:43 pm ]
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Quote:
Same reason I got into pickup.

Good luck, good goals. Trust me man, once you gain some confidence and social skills, you will get tempted. Don't be a pussy like I was and cheat on the GF. If you start having doubts about the girl, just be honest and let her go!
You have a good point and what you say is something that has held me back for quite sometime.....i always worried id get to the stage where having so many HB's i could be with would cause me to cheat. Id say honestly my GF is a HB 6.5 or 7 maybe. I do truly love her and she does not know about my puaing. If I ever get to the stage where i feel like im gonna cheat on her i will respect her enough to dump her. However, this will really hurt me as it would be very sad to break things off with her. Tonight was a bad night for me but tomorrow I will do better :) cheers!
Author:  Glade [ Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:16 am ]
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Hey dude, here's some quick advice.

I was looking over your openers. You don't need to open with a neg, just throw one in there early.

The girlfriend is gone, you're learning the game. Once you get good, your whole world changed. There is no room for a 6.5. Sorry to be so blunt about it.

Loud nightclubs = body language and physical touching early and often. It doesn't matter what you say. When you're ready to talk to her, pull her away from the noise.

Change your goals from opening 12 sets w/ girls in them, to just opening 12 sets a day. Men, women, young, and old...just open EVERYBODY. You'll get good at talking with people. Learn some 1 liner jokes.

Glade
Author:  hersh [ Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:06 pm ]
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Quote:
Hey dude, here's some quick advice.

I was looking over your openers. You don't need to open with a neg, just throw one in there early.

The girlfriend is gone, you're learning the game. Once you get good, your whole world changed. There is no room for a 6.5. Sorry to be so blunt about it.

Loud nightclubs = body language and physical touching early and often. It doesn't matter what you say. When you're ready to talk to her, pull her away from the noise.

Change your goals from opening 12 sets w/ girls in them, to just opening 12 sets a day. Men, women, young, and old...just open EVERYBODY. You'll get good at talking with people. Learn some 1 liner jokes.

Glade
Hey whats up man. I like your advise in general and see some truth to it. Firstly, what openers should I start off by using for day game (something low risk please im very shy) and night game (dont mind something a bit more adventerous but perhaps shorter as most clubs are loud here)

Appretiate your bluntness/honesty on this one. I definately plan on getting good at game and therefore would you reccomend breaking it up with her now? or after i reach the level where i can get a K close or F close?

Loud clubs - Got it will do :)

Yeah that sounds okay i think im too worried about just talking to HB's when infact i should focus on becoming a better conversationalist. Whats an easy low risk opener that i can use on anyone at malls or the street? Yeah ill get 12 a day atleast but if i feel i can go for more, i will :)

Okay ill try google 1 liners and memorize the ones i feel i can deliver well. Im guessing these are to be used when the convo is dieing to spike buying temperature?

1 liners I like:
The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list. - I like it, cocky funny, congruent with my personality :P

If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong. -Funny, a neg, easy to deliver and could be used in various scenarios.

If God is watching us, the least we can do is be entertaining. -Shows im fun cool and witty, also non-conformist.

Any feedback for these would be great mate. After I get the delivary of these down, ill probably go look for more :).

Cheers mate, Hersh
Author:  hersh [ Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:45 am ]
Post subject:  Goal setting/ The journey begins
I read up alot on motivation and inner game yesterday and have decided to set a plan that i can stick to, to track my progress.

What will happen to me if i dont get into pickup:
Ill end up dumped by my gf, desperate and not knowing when the next girl will like me. Perhaps ill end up far below the level of girl i dream of having and i may get slowed down in my career due to lack of social skills.

If I do put in the effort and learn game:
I will be able to ultimately have one or many amazing relationships with HB 9s and 10s. I will be admired by my friends and will be very very happy about my social life.

My goals will be set up like this, My ultimate goal is to get to the level where i have a social circle full of HB's, I can go to a club alone and leave with a ONS, I can have a relationship/s with many HB 9s/10s or find that one special girl.

Stage 1: Opening and AA
Part 1: Ask 12 people a day (anyone really) for the time/directions. Focus on solid body language and eye contact. Also speak loud!
Part 2: Ask 12 average and better HB 6+ women a day for time/directions.
Part 3: Run 12 opinion openers a day and eject. Must be a group with atleast one girl.
Part 4: Run 12 direct openers a day. Must be a group with atleast one girl.

Stage 2: Transitioning into normal convo
Part 1: After opening however i feel is best, continue talking for aslong as possible (12 sets a day till i feel i can atleast get a bit into normal convo)
Part 2: Learn to hold a decent fairly interesting convo with anyone for around 5mins (12 sets a day till i get this handled)

Stage 3: Attraction
Part 1: After opening, practise some DHV story telling (12 sets a day)
Part 2: After opening, practise some 1 liners and negs (12 sets a day)
Part 3: After opening, focus on getting some kino in there (12 sets a day)
Part 4: Start getting girls laughing and giving me some IOIs.

Stage 4: Qualifying
Part 1: Practise some qualifiers, get the delivary right and timing right
Part 2: Practise rewarding her if she jumps through my hoops
Part 3: Test for compliance by trying to move her

Stage 5: Comfort
Part 1: Get good at getting into isolation
Part 2: Play some comfort games till it becomes second nature
Part 3: Number close
Part 4: Setting up day 2's/ Phone game

Right now this is as far as i can set my goals. I will set more once i achieve all these. Each part should be practised on 12 sets daily until i reach my ultimate goal of being totally comfortable doing it and being able to consistently do it. Ill be starting stage 1 part 1 today.

Ask 12 people a day for the time/ direction. Confident body language, strong eye contact and a deep well projected voice. Speak nice slow and confidently.

Will post back by the end of today with my first real FR.
Author:  jsmyong55 [ Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:46 am ]
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Dude I'm from Subang Jaya too. I'm looking for a wing too. lets go sarging! :D
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